Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 Thankyou Sue and Stuart for your replies. Had discussion with patient and we've come to a sort of compromise, garlic every night and ulmus om alongside main rx, she was feeling a little better and so we'll see. If anyone else has any comments on the tx of crohns i'd be interested to hear it. Thanks again chris Caton MNIMH chris@... Re: crohns disease > > Has anyone tried Heinzs garlic and ulmus tabs on fasting with any > > success? > > > Dear > > When I was training at the Bermondsey Clinic, we advised a patient to do the > three day fast with Garlic and Ulmus and to eat only a very bland diet for a > few days afterwards (fruit or veg puree). We had reservations about > compliance in this case, but to our surprise the patient returned a couple > of weeks later reporting a substantial improvement. There are practicalities > to consider - ideally the pt needs to do the fast when they know they aren't > going to be especially active, busy or stressed. We told this pt that it > would be advisable to repeat the fast every two weeks to begin with. > Unfortunately (as is often the case in training clinic) I only saw the pt a > couple of times after the fast, but certainly she was much better, had > fasted again and was sold on the idea. > > I think compliance is the key, sceptical pts aren't going to take kindly to > starving with the exception of raw Garlic and Ulmus gruel. You have to have > a pretty good sales pitch to convince them, Vicki Ridley (clinic supervisor > at the time) excelled in this case! > > Another alternative is the Kerry Bone model for auto-immune disease, he > applies the therory to the cause of AID, citing primary and secondary > lesions being immunologically active in the host at the same time (apologies > if I'm regurgitating old info). Tx involves using immune enhancing, > antiviral/antimicrobial/antibacterial herbs with depuratives, > gastrointestinal antiseptics alternating with demulcents and general > supportive herbs. Echinacea, Hypericum, Berberis, Calendula, Chamomilla, > Hydrastis, Filipendula, Ulmus, Allium, Althea, Arctium are all > possibilities. > > Its an interesting model which I have used in practice with success, I > don't want to bore you with the details if you all are familiar with the > theory, but it is available as a booklet called " A Phytotherapeutic Approach > To Autoimmune Disease " , I got mine from the College of Phytotherapy a couple > of years ago. > > Best wishes, > > Sue Cobbold. sue.cobbold@... > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 > Thankyou Sue and Stuart for your replies. Had discussion with patient and > we've come to a sort of compromise, garlic every night and ulmus om > alongside main rx, she was feeling a little better and so we'll see. If > anyone else has any comments on the tx of crohns i'd be interested to hear > it. Thanks again chris > Caton MNIMH In this discussion on IBDs I haven't seen any mention of aloe vera juice - has anyone used it with success, or is it purely a self-help thing? I've been reluctant to recommend it because I was hassled by an area rep. from Forever Living Products, kept sending me audio cassette tapes and trying to get me to go to one of their meetings. Cheers Graham White B.Sc. (Herb. Med.), MNIMH. Medical Herbalist Bishop's Stortford & Buntingford -------------------------------------------------------------------- gcwhite@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Dear Graham, I use Aloe vera gel provided by Forever Living. I have used it for skin conditions (topically) and recently for ulcerative colitis (orally). I have got very good results and I am still using it. I do not think it has to be specifically the same brand but I introduced Aloe to my prescription for ulcerative colitis on its wound healing properties. I give at least 5ml tds. But make sure to add other astringents and some ginger to your prescription. Mohi Rezvani >>> gcwhite@... 21/03/01 11:01:55 >>> > Thankyou Sue and Stuart for your replies. Had discussion with patient and > we've come to a sort of compromise, garlic every night and ulmus om > alongside main rx, she was feeling a little better and so we'll see. If > anyone else has any comments on the tx of crohns i'd be interested to hear > it. Thanks again chris > Caton MNIMH In this discussion on IBDs I haven't seen any mention of aloe vera juice - has anyone used it with success, or is it purely a self-help thing? I've been reluctant to recommend it because I was hassled by an area rep. from Forever Living Products, kept sending me audio cassette tapes and trying to get me to go to one of their meetings. Cheers Graham White B.Sc. (Herb. Med.), MNIMH. Medical Herbalist Bishop's Stortford & Buntingford -------------------------------------------------------------------- gcwhite@... List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2001 Report Share Posted March 23, 2001 Re: crohns disease Dear Graham, I have to hold my hands up and admit to selling (anything to earn a sheckel or two when studying!) another aloe vera product by an Australian company called Pro-ma. They produce a juice which had the aloin removed by hand filleting the leaf before pressing - this is the sales pitch. I am deeply sceptical of anything to do with pyramid selling (as this was), however, I did sell it to a few folks with IBS and it significantly reduced symptoms. It was not a successful venture for me as it proved too expensive for most. They also produce a very effective aloe vera gel for injuries - repetitive strain injury, muscular aches and sports injuries - this type of thing. A sports physio I know of uses it as a lubricant for ultrasound treatment and has had a dramatic reduction in recovery times for his patients. I think I probably had more success by combining it with aqueous cream for skin problems - eczema, allergies and heat rash especially. It is well documented for its cooling properties (sunburn) but would appear to have considerable healing properties too.I would like to use more of the creams in practice but the juice is in litre bottles with a short use by date and I just wouldn't get through enough to make it financially viable. I think it is potentially a brilliant herb for GIT disorders and we learnt very little about it in my course, and we do tend to shy away on account of the laxative action, perhaps we are being too cautious? Best wishes Sue Cobbold sue.cobbold@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 jim, oh yeah, most definately. ibd (inflammator bowel disease) comes in 2 primary forms, crohns and ulcerative colitis. i am sorry to hear of your cousin, but do your cousin the best thing you could as a family member, make sure she researches, researches, researches, becomes as knowledgeable about this disease as possible. it will likely be (i hope not, but at this time it is) a life long and constant focus in her life. just no 2 ways about it. she needs to begin to prepare. then, offer tons of support. and i know you will. jeff > > I just found out my cousin has Crohns Disese. > She is twenty one. > If this some kind of autoimmune connection? > > Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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