Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hello Rothe, Monday, January 17, 2005, 9:02:48 AM, you wrote: Kac> Well, I haven't been on in awhile, other than to take Kac> advantage of our group rates for infopoems! In December I Kac> completed my first year going it solo. I just completed my Kac> computations for taxes, and I am sure many of you have the Kac> concerns I did just starting out...can I REALLY make ends meet. I Kac> saw a few patients in 12/03, 1-2/04, but didn't really get Kac> started until March when Alteer finally got up and running and I Kac> did my first billing (it took that long to get contracted with Kac> the myriad insurance companies around here anyway). So from 3/04 Kac> to 12/31/05 I collected $93,500. I work M-R 8-2 and sometimes Kac> 4-6 (after I pick up my kids from school), if there's an urgency. Kac> I do my billing on Fridays, and also see urgents..usually 2-4. Kac> Every 7th week end I cover for the call group (seven other solo Kac> docs or small practices who got together here to share nights and Kac> weekends and vacations). This figure does not include $20,000 I Kac> still have out there collecting (the learning curve for billing, Kac> even with an awesome EMR like Alteer, is HUGE). Also I did not Kac> do any billing for December yet (I am billing about $30K a month Kac> and collecting $12K-$15 now). (3/04-12/04 I billed $225,000.) My Kac> rates are 200% of medicare. Kac> I have my expenses on Gordon's excell sheet which I still Kac> preactice with regularly to tweek the #'s as I'd like to work a Kac> little less (we are a two doctor family with two kids) - if Kac> anyone would like it or my financial summaries (created Kac> automatically in Alteer) I would be happy to share so you can see Kac> how it works...and although a lot of work to get started...does Kac> work. Kac> I love my practice, and my patient's love me. I am looking Kac> to hire another Osteopathic Physician, because even though I have Kac> been closed to new patients for 6 months (capped it at 400, Kac> thanks for that advice Gordon! It saved me, I am MORE than busy Kac> enough), I get 3-5 calls a day for new patients. It helps Kac> billing as an osteopath, because in addition to my office codes, Kac> mostly 99214s, I add a 25 modifier, place my hands on the patient Kac> for the time we are talking, and bill an extra $40-100, so am Kac> collecting sometimes up to $185 for my hour office visit. I also Kac> do a lot of procedures and they pay amazingly well. for anyone Kac> interested in that, take one of Pfenninger's procedure courses, Kac> they are amazing and he tells how to bill for it too. Kac> I'll glance through to see what YOU are all up to. I hope well. Kac> My new email is kelly@... Kac> and my website should be up and running in a couple of months Morning. 8 below here today.Brrr It seems from the financial analyses so kindly shared on this group that collections are in the range of 50% Yikes I suppose this is the difference between charged charges and what pittance the payors pay Am I correct in how I see that? When I try to get fees through t he cms site they want me to put in hcpcs codes which I thought are older codes for supplies etc Wouldn,t I want to ask about cpt codes? Anyone have advice? Medrium is something I learned about through this group but for folks considering them--pricing is changing Feb 1 they now will still be able to be a doc's full billing back office but the flat rate per claim price is only for submitting a claim The full outsource billing service is " 8-10 " of collections I personally think for now I will do it-- this will be the biggest hunk of anything i pay for .If I go ahead with welford chart notes as I tink I will the cost for that very nice emr is $2500.. If I buy their billing ciompoment it is 10,000 more- would pay for it self in a good year or afew yrs at least but I choose to see another patient a dayto pay for it as eveything else I will do will be very lean I planno staff. Also, I thought i was pretty well read about hipaa but have not seen in my reading something I think I do need to know about- do patietns have to re sign every so often the privacy notice? thanks Jean -- Best regards, mailto:jantonucci.rockomeka@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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