Re: Newell and Esther de Waal

[Guest guest]

I quote E de Waal in the Dove in the Stone. I rec the Celtic Pryrs bk. She is

poss an oblate of a convent in England - I forg wh one.

Shirley Toulson has also writt a bk - very good. Am in touch w/her in

Glastonbury.

love

ao

[Guest guest]

Dear Alice and ,

Thanks to both of you I have just ordered Esther De Waal's " Celtic Way of

Prayer! "

And I also ordered " Living With Contradiction: an introduction to Benedictine

spirituality. " I ordered it because the title spoke to me. (, the tapes

would be nice, but for now I will go with the book. But thanks for offering to

tell me how I could get them.)

So how does my interest in Newell and de Waal relate to Jung? I really don't

know. But in my bones, I feel it does...

Love,

Sara

----- Original Whitlow

[Guest guest]

Dear Sara,

I have read Esther De Waal's books and also have a series of lecture tapes of

Esther talking about Benedictine spirituality. She does a fine job of

interweaving Benedictine and Celtic spirituality. However, P.Newell is more

" poetic, " and leans more in the Celtic direction. Esther is perhaps a bit more

straight-laced; more Anglican, more " monastic. " If you are interested in the

tapes, I can send you information on how to order them. Esther frequently leads

groups to Ireland and Scotland to immerse in Celtic sites such as Iona. I would

recommend her book The Celtic Way of Prayer, in which she states: " Coming from

the farthest fringes of the western world, Celtic Christianity (an expression I

prefer to use rather than speaking of the Celtic Church) keeps alive what is

ancient Christian usage, usage which like that of the East comes from a deep

central point before the Papacy began to tidy up and rationalize. "

Newell and Esther de Waal

Alice and everyone,

In looking up Newell's books on Amazon, I kept seeing Esther de Waal's books

being recommended on Celtic Christianity. (You know how Amazon says " those who

bought Newell's xyz also bought Esther de Waal's xyz. " )

There were three books of hers that sounded good: " Living with Contradiction,

an introduction to Benedictine spirituality, " " The Celtic Way of Prayer, " and

" Seeking God: the Way of St. Benedict. "

If any of you are familiar with her books, I wish you would tell me what you

think.

I am not sure St. Benedict has anything to do with Celtic Christianity. I just

don't know.

Any thoughts on Esther de Waal?

Sara

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/27/03 12:59:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, saratw2@...

writes:

> So how does my interest in Newell and de Waal relate to Jung?

Mebbe bec he said that individuation theologically understood is incarnation!

He himself gloried in nature, sailed, climbed alsps, hewed wood, carved stone

n to my delight named his pots n pans!

I've always named things: my brown plastic garb can=Brother Lawrence, the

freezer is Niflheim, etc.

Wh I first marr the Polar Bear, he went back out to our new house in La Habra

n wh I joined him, he apolog ab the garb disposal unit in sink. Seems he put

3 oranges down it n they came up in the washing machine! So of course, the

garb disp became Prokofieff! N P wld go growly-wowly enjoying ev'thing. N I

had real pangs at leaving him wh we moved!

I highly recommend befriending yr tools n places. You get twice as much fun

around the house.

Jung used to talk ab 'die Tücke des Objekts' - the mischief of objects!

our first car was Ottokar [emperor], next his d Adelheid, [who had an affair]

n produced Amalaswintha!

love

have fun!

ao

ps wh making a bed w/somebody n giving each other directions, try this -

'that's what he said! that's what she said! It can be hilarious!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/2003 7:23:04 AM Central Daylight Time,

IonaDove@... writes:

> our first car was Ottokar [emperor], next his d Adelheid, [who had an

> affair]

> n produced Amalaswintha!

>

Well, now I feel pretty prosaic when all we could come up with was Jean

Claude Dam' Van for our vehicle.

Namasté

Sam in Texas §(ô¿ô)§

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A closed mind is a good thing to lose.

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Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

~mrantho

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In a message dated 4/28/2003 11:24:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sampatron@... writes:

> Well, now I feel pretty prosaic when all we could come up with was Jean

> Claude Dam' Van for our vehicle.

>

And the best I could do was name my wine colored prism the Divine Ms. Merlot.

Suzanne