Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I have a question. We are on MB12 nasal spray for my son we had NDF Plus last Tuesday and Folinic acid (orally 400 mcg) on Saturday. My son has been Very Very emotional yesterday and today. Seems obsessive about things and crying hysterically. Example we drive past a fountain after school and yesterday about a mile down the road after we past the fountain he wanted to go back and see the fountain again. He cried hysterically all the way home. It was awful. Same thing today going to school. Please someone please advise me. I feel so bad for my son. Thanks Annette Stan Kurtz wrote: Hi Karolyn,One more thing... and this also relates to earlier posts about fungal flairs, LDN, etcFolinic can also cause hyperactivity in some. Just about everyone believes it has to do with a metabolic issue, and at times it probably is, but I also believe that folinic and MB12 can mobilize fungal toxins (see my video that documents this at the link below).http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/tripping%20web.wmvNow if you mobilize fungal toxins you probably kill off some good bacteria and then the biological warfare between bacteria and fungus is altered and fungus gets a chance to grow.Might it be a good idea to try to reintroduce the MB12 and or the folinic acid again after first having an antifungal onboard. Maybe. Wouldn't that be interesting if your hyper-responsive folinic child responded much better to folinic. If so, they probably needed the folinic to help them detox but you didn't know it because you just focused on the hyperactive response.I believe I am the first person to report sugar changes based on application of MB12. Why is that? Could it be that as the fungus divide they dump sugar? Could it be that sugar is mobilized from the cells the same way as it is with HBOT for people with diabetes or in cancer when you use incilin potentiation therapy (IPT). If you ask me, there is something there and we should look more closely at these types of cases.Thoughts?- Stan>> I am wondering if anyone else has done folinic acid injections. My > son is a huge MB12 responder and is "near recovery" at 6 years old. > We have done injections for 4 years and have always supplemented with > oral folinic acid (800 mg). We just started folinic injections two > weeks ago and are really seeing some nice things in terms of cognition > and attention span. My DAN! doctor said that generally he does not > see any difference between oral and injections of folinic because oral > is absorbed well. However, I have to say that this has been a great > intervention. Anyone else have any experiences?> > Karolyn> Never Miss an EmailStay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Ours had just this reaction to folinic acid, very weepy and emotional. I have also heard a few adults say that when they took folinic acid they got depressed. We could give just 200 mcgs, but the 400 produced this result every time until a little further down the chelation line. She did fine with any amount of plain folic acid. Re: Re: folinic acid/Emotional H-E-L_P I have a question. We are on MB12 nasal spray for my son we had NDF Plus last Tuesday and Folinic acid (orally 400 mcg) on Saturday. My son has been Very Very emotional yesterday and today. Seems obsessive about things and crying hysterically. Example we drive past a fountain after school and yesterday about a mile down the road after we past the fountain he wanted to go back and see the fountain again. He cried hysterically all the way home. It was awful. Same thing today going to school. Please someone please advise me. I feel so bad for my son. Thanks Annette Stan Kurtz wrote: Hi Karolyn,One more thing... and this also relates to earlier posts about fungal flairs, LDN, etcFolinic can also cause hyperactivity in some. Just about everyone believes it has to do with a metabolic issue, and at times it probably is, but I also believe that folinic and MB12 can mobilize fungal toxins (see my video that documents this at the link below).http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/tripping%20web.wmvNow if you mobilize fungal toxins you probably kill off some good bacteria and then the biological warfare between bacteria and fungus is altered and fungus gets a chance to grow.Might it be a good idea to try to reintroduce the MB12 and or the folinic acid again after first having an antifungal onboard. Maybe. Wouldn't that be interesting if your hyper-responsive folinic child responded much better to folinic. If so, they probably needed the folinic to help them detox but you didn't know it because you just focused on the hyperactive response.I believe I am the first person to report sugar changes based on application of MB12. Why is that? Could it be that as the fungus divide they dump sugar? Could it be that sugar is mobilized from the cells the same way as it is with HBOT for people with diabetes or in cancer when you use incilin potentiation therapy (IPT). If you ask me, there is something there and we should look more closely at these types of cases.Thoughts?- Stan>> I am wondering if anyone else has done folinic acid injections. My > son is a huge MB12 responder and is "near recovery" at 6 years old. > We have done injections for 4 years and have always supplemented with > oral folinic acid (800 mg). We just started folinic injections two > weeks ago and are really seeing some nice things in terms of cognition > and attention span. My DAN! doctor said that generally he does not > see any difference between oral and injections of folinic because oral > is absorbed well. However, I have to say that this has been a great > intervention. Anyone else have any experiences?> > Karolyn> Never Miss an EmailStay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Take a 2-day break from folinic acid. Then reintroduce 100mcg folinic acid. Build -up the dose slowly. 9 months ago, my son became hyper when using folinic acid. After 9 months of lupron/chelation, we give him 800mcg daily without a problem.annette fandino wrote: I have a question. We are on MB12 nasal spray for my son we had NDF Plus last Tuesday and Folinic acid (orally 400 mcg) on Saturday. My son has been Very Very emotional yesterday and today. Seems obsessive about things and crying hysterically. Example we drive past a fountain after school and yesterday about a mile down the road after we past the fountain he wanted to go back and see the fountain again. He cried hysterically all the way home. It was awful. Same thing today going to school. Please someone please advise me. I feel so bad for my son. Thanks Annette Stan Kurtz <stankurtzgmail> wrote: Hi Karolyn,One more thing... and this also relates to earlier posts about fungal flairs, LDN, etcFolinic can also cause hyperactivity in some. Just about everyone believes it has to do with a metabolic issue, and at times it probably is, but I also believe that folinic and MB12 can mobilize fungal toxins (see my video that documents this at the link below).http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/tripping%20web.wmvNow if you mobilize fungal toxins you probably kill off some good bacteria and then the biological warfare between bacteria and fungus is altered and fungus gets a chance to grow.Might it be a good idea to try to reintroduce the MB12 and or the folinic acid again after first having an antifungal onboard. Maybe. Wouldn't that be interesting if your hyper-responsive folinic child responded much better to folinic. If so, they probably needed the folinic to help them detox but you didn't know it because you just focused on the hyperactive response.I believe I am the first person to report sugar changes based on application of MB12. Why is that? Could it be that as the fungus divide they dump sugar? Could it be that sugar is mobilized from the cells the same way as it is with HBOT for people with diabetes or in cancer when you use incilin potentiation therapy (IPT). If you ask me, there is something there and we should look more closely at these types of cases.Thoughts?- Stan>> I am wondering if anyone else has done folinic acid injections. My > son is a huge MB12 responder and is "near recovery" at 6 years old. > We have done injections for 4 years and have always supplemented with > oral folinic acid (800 mg). We just started folinic injections two > weeks ago and are really seeing some nice things in terms of cognition > and attention span. My DAN! doctor said that generally he does not > see any difference between oral and injections of folinic because oral > is absorbed well. However, I have to say that this has been a great > intervention. Anyone else have any experiences?> > Karolyn> Never Miss an EmailStay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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