Difficulties with mb12 injections

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Hello All,Hoping for some advice/insights here - My son has been on MB12 injections since November. We administer the injections at night, first applying lidocaine then waiting 30-40 minutes, then injecting him. The injections are shallow, ~10 degrees or less. We've also tried steeper angles. Either way, he almost always feels it and moves his hands or buttocks. Sometimes he wakes up. As you can imagine, some of the shots have been messy. The very shallow shots leave a "blister" type protrusion (the mb12) on his butt for 1 to 1.5 days. Usually the mark is gone by day number two or is only a small red spot. Furthermore, his pee is very slightly pink the morning after some shots. I've read alot about Methyl B12 and I believe I

understand what it should do and how to administer it. However, after each shot, I can't help but think I did something wrong. We've seen some improvements and changes, but nothing like what we saw when we started the gfcf diet. Given this background, can anyone comment on:1. Am I administering the injections incorrectly? If so, is there a better way? 2. Is there a better way to give our son MB12? Ie - nasal spray or a patch?3. It seems like we should see better responses to the mb12 - has anyone also seen mb12 not work so well?4. Am I being too impatient? Could it just be a matter of letting it work?Finally, if anyone has any good documentation/links for mb12, I'd appreciate them. I've read the information from Dr. Neubrander's site several times.__________________________________________________

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Hi, Get Emla cream - brand name - not generic - may leave a red patch on skin the next day but so worth it. Once son is deeply asleep, apply approximately a quarter size circle of the Emla cream - don't be stingy w/ it - think of it like frosting a cake :-). Wait 60 minutes before you give the shot. 10-15 min before you give the shot, take it our of the fridge and put it someplace dark but in the house and let it warm up (to room temp) during that time. For accuracy of injecting, we have a flashlight that I have covered w/ a hunter green cloth napkin and rubber-banded into place - low enough light so that my son doesn't wake up but enough light to see his tush (when held close to it). HE HAS ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA THAT HE GOT A SHOT. Also, if your son has pink urine, some of the MB12 is being excreted. Since MB12 is for methylation - do you have other methylation supports in place such as folinic acid, P5P, zinc?

Have you done the Pediatric Ion test? How did you determine that MB12 was deficient? Typically (I think) most see MB12 results pretty quickly but if you're giving him something that he needs but is unable to use it because of other missing elements... Hope this helped some and good luck -- Rob Stauder wrote: Hello

All,Hoping for some advice/insights here - My son has been on MB12 injections since November. We administer the injections at night, first applying lidocaine then waiting 30-40 minutes, then injecting him. The injections are shallow, ~10 degrees or less. We've also tried steeper angles. Either way, he almost always feels it and moves his hands or buttocks. Sometimes he wakes up. As you can imagine, some of the shots have been messy. The very shallow shots leave a "blister" type protrusion (the mb12) on his butt for 1 to 1.5 days. Usually the mark is gone by day number two or is only a small red spot. Furthermore, his pee is very slightly pink the morning after some shots. I've read alot about Methyl B12 and I believe I understand what it should do and how to administer it. However, after each shot, I can't help but think I did something wrong. We've seen some improvements and changes, but nothing like what we saw when we started the gfcf

diet. Given this background, can anyone comment on:1. Am I administering the injections incorrectly? If so, is there a better way? 2. Is there a better way to give our son MB12? Ie - nasal spray or a patch?3. It seems like we should see better responses to the mb12 - has anyone also seen mb12 not work so well?4. Am I being too impatient? Could it just be a matter of letting it work?Finally, if anyone has any good documentation/links for mb12, I'd appreciate them. I've read the information from Dr. Neubrander's site several times.__________________________________________________