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Until we understand the condition, we cannot claim to have the cure

or correct course of action, including 'prevention.' I do

see 'HIV/AIDS Science' rather like a religion for some people, those

who promote the 'HIV' theory of immuno-deficiency as an undeniable,

gospel truth and then malign all those who dissent from the One, True

Hypothesis as " denialists. " There is the idea that science is for the

scientist only or that 'MD' stands for Medical Diety, when it's the

consumer whose lives and loves on the line. We have a right to hear

both sides of the story, to be fully informed in our health care

decision-making. No conspiracy is required in order for popular

concensus to have lead to false conclusions. Here's some notable

examples.

A Brief History of Mismanaged Epidemics

[Disease]---[Popular Consensus]---[Actual Cause]

Scurvy------Contagious-------------Malnutrition: Vitamin C deficiency

Beri-beri----Contagious-------------Malnutrition: Thiamin deficiency

Maternal Fever---Non-Contagious---Contagious: Unsanitary doctor

practices

Influenza----Bacteria----------------Virus

Pellagra-----Contagious-------------Malnutrition: Niacin deficiency

SMON(1950s-70s, Japan)---New Virus---Iatrogenic: Pharmaceutically

induced

As well, Cancer and Leukemia were once thought to be caused by the

same class of viruses, called retroviruses, that 'HIV' is supposed to

be among. They are known to be a part of many persons naturally

occuring genetic make-up or harmless passenger viruses.

There are legitimate scientific and medical reasons why AIDS

Dissidents dissent. Much of what the hundreds of Dissident Scientists

are saying, including Nobel Laureates and Members of the National

Academy of Sciences, is confirming Alternative Medicine's long

questioning of the virus/germ 'one-cause, one-course or cure' drug-

based model. Alternative Medicine is more than alternative therapies

disconnected from the alternative theories of diagnosis-- it is both

a philosophy and practise of health care shared by somewhere between

40-69% of Americans.

This is a rebuttal to the NIAID/NIH document often referred to as

*proof* of the dominant, conventional pharmaceutically-based medical

model for the alleged viral pathgenesis and progression

of 'HIV=AIDS.' http://www.healtoronto.com/nih

RESOURCES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:

The GROUP for the SCIENTIFIC REAPPRAISAL

of the HIV/AIDS HYPOTHESIS [index of hundreds of dissident scientific

papers, published and upublished, as well as scientific investigative

journalism articles]

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/find.htm

INTERNATIONAL AIDS PANEL, INTERIM REPORT

Synthesis of deliberations by the panel of experts invited by

the President of South Africa, Honorable Thabo Mbeki and the

ten experiments they came up with in attempt to resolve some

of the controversies endorsed by the African National Congress

[AIDS Dissidents/'Denialists' and AIDS Apologists/Orthodoxy]

http://www.polity.org.za/govdocs/reports/aids/aidspanel.htm

HEAL [Health Education AIDS Liason]

http://www.healtoronto.com

ANOTHER LOOK [breastfeeding and 'HIV/AIDS']

http://www.anotherlook.org

MOMM [Mothers Opposing Mandatory Medicine]

http://www.informedmomm.com

ALIVE and WELL [read online the book by Maggiore, " What If

Everything You Thought You Knew About AIDS WAS WRONG? " click on icon]

http://www.aliveandwell.org

AIDS MYTH EXPOSED [most active AIDS message board on MSN]

http://www.aidsmythexposed.com

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Hope this provides further clarification, information and resources

for those interested in investigating all of the facts. Dissidents

prefer to place our faith and hope in immune sufficiency and

sustainability-- instead of medical and scientific authorities,

expecting dis-ease and death-- absent the burden of proof to the

contrary. And there are many holes in 'HIV=AIDS' model we have

discovered.

IMAGINE THERE's NO 'HIV,' IT's EASY IF YOU QUESTION 'AIDS'

Well, excuse me if some of us can't wait for the truth to *catch-up*

to the medical and scientific authorities. Our lives and loves are at

risk right now, either way, if HIV Believers are right or HIV

Disbelievers are right. Consumers will have to investigate the claims

to see if they are wrong now. My advice is not to follow your doctors

advice if they are wrong, uh, cuz they won't know or believe they are

wrong in that moment... that they are wrong.

By the way, did you read the rebuttal to the NIH/NIAID document

presented by many as 'evidence' of the 'HIV' theory who have never

actually read it, including yourself?

http://www.healtoronto.com/nih

Your reference was to epidemiological data, estimates of the numbers

of 'HIV' still non-specific tests and estimates of the circular and

constructed definition and shifting diagnosis of what is

called 'AIDS.'

AIDS: Open Debate is Long Overdue

A translation of a lecture by Professor Etienne de Harven, Retrovirus

Pioneer

Emeritus Professor of Pathology, University of Toronto

September 14, 2001

From the proceedings of the conference Actes du Colloque, 5th

International Colloquium on `THS' held in Grasse, France 2001 –

(Toxicomanies, Hépatites, Sida. JM Guffens edit, Éditions Frison-

Roche, 75006 Paris, 2002, pp 618-624).

" All the catastrophic predictions for AIDS epidemics have, with the

passage of time, been proven wrong. Gordon , from the

University of Glasgow, initially analyzed epidemiological data and

demonstrated that an actual AIDS epidemic has never been observed.

Virtual epidemics have, however, been reported. But they have all

been " invented " with several redefinitions of AIDS; redefinitions

imposed by the US Centers for Disease Control, as well as by the

World Health Organization. "

Why Question AIDS?

On April 23, 1984 Dr. Gallo announced that he had

discovered " the probable cause of AIDS " , a new retrovirus, later

named HIV.

....less than half of the AIDS patients he had used in his study were

infected with HIV.

Gallo's statement was made at an international press conference,

circumventing essential rules of the scientific process; he presented

no evidence for his hypothesis that HIV caused AIDS--he had not

published his research findings in any scientific or medical journal

where they would be subject to the normal process of peer review

prior to being announced to the public.

The same day of his infamous press conference, Gallo filed a patent

application for an HIV antibody test (now known as the " AIDS test " )

and all federally funded research examining other possible causes of

AIDS came to an abrupt halt.

The evidence Gallo proposed for his HIV hypothesis was published

several weeks after his April 24 press conference. The research

described in this paper revealed that less than half of the AIDS

patients he had used in his study were infected with HIV. A

congressional investigation later determined that Gallo had not

discovered HIV: The virus Gallo claimed to have found had actually

been taken from a sample sent to him by a French virologist, Luc

Montagnier, who had isolated retroviral particles from the lymph

nodes of male homosexual without AIDS. At the 1993 International AIDS

Conference, Dr. Montagnier stated that " HIV may be benign. "

A good hypothesis is defined by its ability to solve problems and

mysteries, make accurate predictions and produce results.

The high correlation that appears to exist between HIV and AIDS is

not proof of causation, but rather an artifact of the AIDS

definition: AIDS is defined as any one of 30 old diseases (such as

pneumonia, yeast infection, TB, cancer, diarrhea, salmonella, etc.)

that occurs in people who have also registered positive on an HIV

antibody test. AIDS can only occur, by definition, in people who test

HIV antibody positive, even though antibodies of any kind cannot

cause and do not predict illness.

Pneumonia + HIV Antibodies = AIDS

Pneumonia - HIV Antibodies = Pneumonia

Diarrhea + HIV Antibodies = AIDS

Diarrhea - HIV Antibodies = Diarrhea

Like most of our present AIDS experts, Gallo came from a group of

government cancer scientists who had spent two decades and $22

billion seeking proof for the theory of a contagious, sexually

transmitted cancer virus. Since retroviruses do not kill cells and

cancer is a condition marked by rapid cell growth, this type of virus

seemed a likely candidate for a cancer virus. But 20 years of

research devoted to retroviruses failed to produce proof for the

concept of contagious cancer.

Since 1984, most of these cancer experts and all $50 billion of AIDS

research have focused exclusively on the theory of a retrovirus (HIV)

as the cause of AIDS. Though Gallo and others claim that HIV causes

AIDS by destroying the T cells of the immune system, 20 years of

cancer research proved that retroviruses do not destroy cells. And

though more money has been spent on HIV than the total spent on all

other viruses in history, there is still no significant proof for the

HIV/AIDS hypothesis.

According to Webster's Dictionary, a hypothesis " is an unproved

assumption tentatively accepted to provide a basis for further

investigation, debate and argument. " No critical discussion of the

HIV hypothesis has ever been allowed in the appropriate scientific

and medical forums.

A good hypothesis is defined by its ability to solve problems and

mysteries, make accurate predictions and produce results. The

HIV/AIDS hypothesis, after more than 18 years, has failed to meet any

of these criteria.

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WILL YOU OFFER YOUR VOICE IN SUPPORTING:

FULLY INFORMED CONSENT, before someone is given information about

'HIV/AIDS' or given an 'HIV' antibody test, given a diagnosis of

death and told to expect illness with 'AIDS' or prescribed up to

fourty highly toxic, experimental chemo-cocktail drugs. The AIDS

Industry should provide access to AIDS Alternative resources and

information, including those dissenting from, and uncomplementary to,

the dominant, conventional pharmaceutically-based medical model for

the alleged viral pathogenesis and progression of 'HIV=AIDS.'

FREE SCIENTIFIC INQUIRY and EXCHANGE, end to AIDS Apologist arrogance

and ignorance in not supporting even 1% of research, education and

health care dollars directed to exploring outside the virus/germ 'one-

cause, one-course or cure' drug-based model-- including the Dissident

Scientific and Alternative Medicine paradigm and protocols.

PROPORTIONATE ACCESS TO ALTERNATIVE HEALTH CARE, when more than

50% of those 'HIV/AIDS' diagnosed do not avail conventional drug

therapies and 40-69% of Americans use some form of Alternative

Medicine-- AIDS Apologists do not support even 1% of the health care

budget in providing primary Alternative Health Care which is more

cost effective and at least as clinically efficatious without major

side effects. Dissident Scientists and Advocates and Alternative

Medicine Physicians and Consumers are addressing the health of such

persons given an 'HIV/AIDS' [mis]diagnosis, though are not involved

in treating 'HIV' or 'AIDS' as we do not accept the evidence as

sufficient in establishing 'HIV' non-specific antibody response,

indicating anything more than past exposure, current immunity or one,

possible indicator of a stressed immune system. We also do not accept

the evidence as sufficient establishing the 'AIDS' definition valid

as diagnosis, since all of the 'AIDS' defining conditions occur in

those who test 'HIV' negative, and all have seperate causes and

treatments unrelated to 'HIV' or 'AIDS.' The definition and diagnosis

of 'AIDS' is therefore a circular construct, in which 26+ old

illnesses are lumped under a new classification called 'AIDS' only in

persons who test 'HIV' positive-- whatever that non-specific marker

means.

HOW CAN YOU HELP?

By communicating these concerns to your local 'HIV/AIDS' service

provider, AIDS organization, community center, religious or civic

leaders and representatives-- you can become a part of the solution

in peace-making and justice-pursuing in this matter. Persons are

being given a diagnosis of death, told to expect illness and

prescribed up to 40 highly toxic and experimental drugs known to

cause many of the 'AIDS' [re]defining conditions. Messages from this

billion dollar health scare campaign teach people to fear sex and

equate love-making with life-taking.

If enough people hear from enough all of us, it will make a

difference with policy makers and program personel.

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If not you, who will be the answer?

If not you, who will heal the cancer?

If not you . . . who?

Who will tell the children that they can fly?

Who will play the catcher in the rye?

Where are the teachers who ask the reasons why?

In the schools the minds all die.

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RESOURCES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:

The GROUP for the SCIENTIFIC REAPPRAISAL

of the HIV/AIDS HYPOTHESIS

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/find.htm

SIGN and READ SIGNATORIES OF THE

ONLINE PETITION TO SUPPORT MBEKI's

SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT 'AIDS'

http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/news/mbeki.htm

International AIDS Panel, Interim Report

Synthesis of deliberations by the panel of experts invited

by the President of South Africa, Honorable Mr. Thabo Mbeki

and the ten experiments endorsed by the African National Congress

[AIDS Dissident Scientists and AIDS Orthodox Scientists]

http://www.polity.org.za/govdocs/reports/aids/aidspanel.htm

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