Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 The original message was received at 2006-12-30 18:10:17 -0500 from postoffice.local [10.0.0.1] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- -----Transcript of session follows ----- .... while talking to postoffice.local.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 5.1.1 unknown or illegal alias: lhenkel@... 550 ... User unknown Nasal Spray MB12, Antivirals, Stan Kurtz Messages In This Digest (13 Messages) 1. Fw: Summary about chelation therapy From: J Thorpe 2a. Fw: Contents of the LW Skin Care (Glutathione producing) patch & how From: J Thorpe 2b. Re: Fw: Contents of the LW Skin Care (Glutathione producing) patch & From: Jack Der Hagopian 3a. When your kids are not responding to a treatment. From: reversing_autism 3b. Re: Lumbrokinase at Imaginings or NatuRx, / When your kids are not From: Schmitt 3c. Re: Lumbrokinase at Imaginings or NatuRx, / When your kids are not From: reversing_autism 4. Bio-feedback From: lola954011 5. Re: ? Glutathione Patch From: J Thorpe 6. Re: Anyone doing Valtrex + OLE + virastop all together? From: kenny V 7a. Re: Can Anyone Recommend a Good Pediatrician From: Dr. Graham-Garza 7b. Re: Can Anyone Recommend a Good Pediatrician From: Stacie Matson 7c. Re: Can Anyone Recommend a Good Pediatrician in San ?; T Shir From: Vera 8. Yasko's explanation of valtrex/ virus From: justinandlogansmom View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. Fw: Summary about chelation therapy Posted by: "J Thorpe" jsthorpe@... thorpe_sue Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:22 am (PST) Hi , Below is one of the old posts about the non transdermal " Glutathione producing " LW Skin care patch ..that many children and adults are using successfully.... Hi from Sue, I'm sure you'll be getting a lot of feedback on this one as there are many types of chelation available... and many people use more than one type. My family is using the LW Glutathione Skin Patch because it has been a very safe and effective treatment for us. It also accomplishes many objectives with one treatment.. 1. It builds the immune system since GLUTATHIONE is the MASTER antioxidant...which neutralizes free radicals, and recycles other antioxidants such an vitamins A,C & E.etc. 2. It focus's on increasing one of the main problems of over 200 conditions.... low glutathione...( by increasing Glutathione levels over 300% while wearing it over the correct meridian according to double blind studies.) I do not know of better results of any other source of Glutathione --Please tell me if you find any.... (I've been reading that oral glutathione is not readily absorbed but will be eliminated by the liver before reaching the blood stream. Cystine is not well absorbed when taken orally. Injectable glutathione is degraded by the time it gets to the cell and much cannot effectively pass through the cell membrane. And therapeutic levels of NAC (N Acetyl L-Cysteine) have been associated with cerebral symptoms, nausea, blurred vision and vomiting.) 3. By increasing glutathione, it automatically brings testosterone levels towards normal. 4. In the case of auto immune disorders, it modulates the immune response by increasing it's effectiveness when it is low and bringing it back into balance when overactive. 5. It assists in the the regulation of the Cell's vital Functions, such as synthesis and repair of DNA, the synthesis of PROTEINS, and the activation and regulation of ENZYMES. 6. It assists the body's METHYLATION process. 7. And last but not least --- Glutathione is the BODY's most effective natural detoxifier or (CHELATOR), binding to heavy metals, toxins, pollutants, cancer-causing chemicals, drug metabolites etc. and excreting them through the urine. ( Double blind studies have shown detoxification of heavy metals, etc. of 30-100% of normal to occur within 24-72 hours of wearing the LW Glutathione skin patches over the correct meridian.) Glutathione also helps the body fight against viruses, bacteria, etc... Since SKIN is one of the first areas of the body to SHOW detoxification results-- I am amazed that since wearing these patches for almost 3 months now, my very ominous dark brown patch on my skin is getting smaller with every week of wearing this patch. ..as well as other spots are fading...NOTHING any doctor has told me to do has reduced this condition before. (My facial skin is much more youthful and clear and I seem to fight off cold symptoms easily,etc. (I used to be sick a lot.) Another reason we've chosen this chelator is that we can regulate the amt. of detox we are willing to endure by adjusting the amt. of patch exposed while wearing it. ...therefore bypass the severity of some detoxing. Since I have several partime jobs... I cannot afford to detox too heavily... I'd rather go slowly -- and still function well at the same time. We plan to use these patches long term as they help over 200 conditions... Hope this helps, Sue age 60. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2a. Fw: Contents of the LW Skin Care (Glutathione producing) patch & how Posted by: "J Thorpe" jsthorpe@... thorpe_sue Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:26 am (PST) Kim, Here is another former post: Contents of LW Skin Care (Glutathione producing) patches & how they work Hi from Sue, ---Several people have inquired so here is an overview..Note: This is a very UNIQUE technology. (Drs. from UC Berkley and a coach from Stanford and Dr. Haltiwanger explain it briefly on the website video.) I knew as soon as I saw the original video explaining the meridian system and how some of the patches balance the polarity of the body's energy fields that these must be good products. ... As I spent thousands of dollars with local naturopathic specialists for the last five years using energy therapy to clear allergies and balance polarity,etc... with great success. I was very eager to try these patches knowing how effective energy treatments can be. And I have not been dissappointed!... To the contrary.. The skin care ( Glutathione producing ) patch is better than I expected. The contents of all these NON transdermal patches are amino acids, oxygen,organics, and water.. but nothing enters or goes through the skin. Instead--each is " programmed " to do a certain function....just like radio waves are able to emit signals...through resonant energy. When the patches are placed over specific meridians on the body, they activate (from the body's heat) and signal the body to perform the intended function " (explained and verified under the Research section on the website below.) There is a report available to explain the technology in the last paragraph. When used in the right dosages.. one normally does not " feel " anything.... If too high a dose, ..one may have some detox symptoms.--- In the case of the LW Skin care patch--- It activates the body to produce more Glutathione. ( In double blind studies, Blood samples showed Glutathione production increased an average of 300% within 24 hours of wearing the LW skin care (glutathione producing) patch over the correct meridian. This is shown in a graph under the 2nd box down in the middle of the website -- click on the skin care box.) Urine samples showed 30-100% increase of heavy metals etc. during the same study. (FYI ..One of the reasons that glutathione is helpful for cataracts and eyesight is that it is the principle ingredient in tears... LW now has a retired 3 star General on staff.. who is working on a study with the 101st Airborne (Army Helicopter Pilots ) which includes about 750 pilots with the skin care patches since glutathione aids in preventing hearing loss. Lifewave =LW is also collaborating with the National Institutes of Health on other projects.) ( FYI - In the case of the Rest Quiet patch, it activates the brain to produce more Delta waves... improving the quality of sleep. In the case of the Energy patches, they activate the body to burn more fat to create more energy. In the case of the Ice patches they activate a thermal change--(gets cooler) in the area of pain) to reduce discomfort. The adhesive for the patches is 3M grade hypoallergenic.) I'm giving these examples to help understand the UNIQUE technology of the patches for understanding purposes. ) The patches are manufactured at FDA approved facilities. These all have double blind studies to back up the effects. You can see some of the studies on the website video-- the Lifewave Report-- 8 minute overview... in the upper left of the sight and shown by a University of CA at Berkley, biophysics professor ... as well as talked about and used by the Stanford swim coach whose team had broken records when wearing the LW energy patches - all on the same video at www.lifewave.com/sthorpe . Written Research is found at the bottom left of the website and more will be posted as more Skin care research is published. The Skin Care 8 minute video is found in the upper right side of the website. I have a 23 page report from Dr. Haltiwanger M.D.,C.N.N. that describes the " The Science Behind Lifewave Technology Patches. all in detail --if you want me to email it to you let me know at stsurewest (DOT) net or jsthorpesurewest (DOT) net Hope that helps your understanding, Sue PS... The LifeWave website has info on " what is nanotechnology " . While I would avoid nanotechnology that is to be ingested or is absorbed through the skin like foot pads,etc. ---due to potential unknown long term neg. effects--- I have no problem with the safely of the LW patches as they are NON- transdermal.. nothing enters the body... I have repeatedly muscle tested each batch I get and find they are " Safe " and effective . When I muscle tested a nanotechnology supplement ( to be ingested ) made by another company it muscle tested NOT safe... Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 2b. Re: Fw: Contents of the LW Skin Care (Glutathione producing) patch & Posted by: "Jack Der Hagopian" derhagop@... zderhagop7 Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:02 pm (PST) I can't say that the theory behind these patches makes sense to me, but I am very intrigued as of course the production of glutathione seems to clearly be one of the keys to recovery. Has anyone had their child on this patch? Please speak up if you have. Can Anyone Recommend a Good Pediatrician in San ? I have a friend in San that is about to have her first child and is looking for a really good pediatrician that is understanding about concerns over vaccinations. Could anyone recommend someone, please? Thank You, Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 8. Yasko's explanation of valtrex/ virus Posted by: "justinandlogansmom" jeaninefrandsen@... justinandlogansmom Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:16 pm (PST) Hi everyone! It has been a while since I posted. My son Logan(5) is a recovered ASD child. He recovered w/ Mb12 injections, Valtrex, BH4, diflucan, GF/CF, oral EDTA, and many supplements to support methylation. My other son (3) is improving daily as well but has a huge toxic load that we are working on. I just ran across a post from Dr. Amy Yasko on www. autismanswer.com and thought that I would paste it here for you if you are interested in learning more about virus in autism. I admire Dr. Amy's knowledge of methylation and biochemistry and learn every time I read posts on her extensive site. Below she explains exactly how Valtrex works and her view about anti-virals . Happy New Year! May 2007 bring you peace, joy and recovery!!!! - Jeanine ....there are several types of viruses. Two of the basic groups are DNA viruses and RNA viruses. The difference between these two groups is the form in which their genetic information is contained. For RNA viruses, the genetic information is in the form of RNA. For DNA based viruses it is as DNA. Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are all DNA viruses. Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses. Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The information that is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One way to think about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the warehouse, and RNA is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I use in talks, and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA more slowly so you can really understand it better) is my " home depot " example. DNA is all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of home depot. RNA is the building materials you need for a particular job, let's say to build your house, and then the completed project that you can see, the house itself, is the protein. So, to get back to the main point, our genetic material (all of our information) is stored as DNA. When we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes, it can multiply which is what we see as active infection or outbreaks. Or, it can be latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our DNA in our cells. If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace. Then imagine cutting the string that holds the beads. Now insert some colored beads in the middle of your pearl necklace. Now rejoin the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a group of red beads in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just sit there until conditions are such that the red beads can pop back out, leaving the pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now multiply and cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA herpes that are now active can create symptoms, some can pop back into the pearl necklace of our DNA. When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a latent form to an active form it needs to multiply. In order to multiply it needs to make more of its own DNA. There are four building blocks for DNA (again explained in much more easy to understand detail in the RNA book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of these four building blocks for DNA. The building block provided by valtrex is altered so that it interferes with the process for linking the beads together to make more virus. So, valtrex actually interferes with viral replication. It does not suppress the virus. In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be actively replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is still stuck in the form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the valtrex cannot act. Recent work (Nature Reviews in Drug Discovery Nov 2005) in the field of HIV research (HIV also integrates into our DNA) has shown that the most effective way to treat this type of virus is to activate the latent virus, that virus which is still inside the pearl necklace, as well as to interfere with its ability to multiply. Bottom line, using several different types of antiviral agents at the same time that work via different mechanisms is more effective than using a single antiviral agent. Valtrex can only interfere with replication of viruses that use DNA building blocks. This would include DNA based viruses, but not RNA based viruses. Valtrex can interfere with herpes viral replication, but not so for measles, mumps and rubella. Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses. Measles and mumps are retroviruses, which means that they can reverse their RNA, back to DNA, and then they are able to get stuck inside our pearl necklaces. Then when they are ready to multiply again, the red beads pop out of our DNA, and turn back into RNA to make more viral RNA. While rubella is not a retrovirus, in other words it does not have the equipment to reverse its RNA into DNA, it is able to borrow this equipment from measles and mumps. So in the presence of other retroviruses, rubella can act like a retrovirus. Once viral DNA is integrated into our DNA, so once the red beads are part of our pearl necklace, the viral DNA can be copied when our DNA is copied. The way that the viral DNA is silenced, so that it is not active is by methyl groups. The body recognizes DNA that is not our own, DNA that is foreign, and it puts methyl groups on it to keep it quiet. If we have methylation cycle mutations we cannot do this properly. The longer that the methylation cycle is not working properly, the more virus that can build up. That is why the viral load is higher in older children, and why it can take longer to clear the virus. We need to get the virus to pop out of our DNA, and then we need to squash it once it is in an active, replicative form. Evidence of the virus coming out of hiding, out of our pearl necklace is seen as rashes, fever, headaches, vomiting, etc. I believe that elevated creatinine is also a sign of virus coming out of hiding. The role of methylation in viral silencing is another reason why I am stressing the need for nutrigenomic testing for the methylation pathway for all children. As you know I believe that virus helps to hold onto metals in the body. Once you eradicate the virus, the metals will be excreted. The longer the virus has been in the body, the more difficult to get to these metals. Once we have seen the release of metals, we still need to think about chronic viral infection. That is why it is important to be sure that methylation is working properly even for those children who have recovered using other means to cause metal excretion. As I have mentioned in the past, a number of chelating agents also have antiviral activity. For an example, let?s think about glutathione. I do know of children who have recovered and excreted large amounts of metals using glutathione as the major part of their treatment. This is wonderful. However, if these children were autistic to begin with, then imbalances in their bodies allowed the condition to occur in the first place. Underlying factors such as methylation cycle mutations, chronic viral and bacterial infection, heavy metal exposure all led to creating a condition of autism. Once we have used ie glutathione to get rid of metals (glutathione also has antiviral activity) we have eliminated some of the risk factors. If we do not fix the underlying methylation cycle mutations, there is nothing to prevent virus from accumulating in the body again. The mechanism for viral silencing is still broken. The mechanism for turning on and off DNA expression called epigenetics is still broken (the BBC article that came out yesterday about food and methionine relied on epigenetics to be functioning properly to work). The ability to make some of the building blocks for DNA and RNA that requires methylation is still broken. Just to name a few consequences of in adequate methylation. Basically, until the methylation cycle is addressed it is like a time bomb waiting to go off. This is why it is so important to look at this pathway and to bypass mutations in this pathway. With love and hope and a hug, Dr. Amy Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 2 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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