Re: NDF - PRO'S and CON'S ADVICE needed for next step

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I might add that sometimes slow effects are better all around-we move slowly and my grandson is doing great. With some children(and i am not saying all) the quick method has dire effects. MaurineNora Middleton wrote: Regarding transdermal chelation, at the last DAN conference they weren't too big on it ... the effects are too slow. Oral, suppository and IV were considered more effective - in that ascending order. Our DAn didn't bother

with a test prior to anti-viral treatment we just did a trial and judged the effectiveness of that. I also understand that in the tests to show viral load, you could catch it if an "off" or resting (non-replication) phase and not have a true picture, therefore several tests would be necessary. Hope it helps... Nora Hi EveryoneHas anyone used this before? My DAN Doc gave me information on this product but I don't know much about it. I have a meeting with her on Tuesday.I am trying to figure out what should be the next step for my son. Should I use antivirals & antifungals? Is there a test that I need to do to determine

this. Should I ask to try a Transdermal DMPS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This is all so overwhelming.We have seen improvements so far but like everyone else I WANT MORE!!!ThanksAnnette This is what my 4 year old son is currently onCod liver oil Primrose oil TMG Vitamins and Minerals Brainchild VitaminsSelenium drops Glutathione creamVitamin C Calcium Liver LifeEnzymes ProbioticMagnesium MB12 spray P5P B6 MolybdenumMalic Acid Ionic Zinc Zinc brainchildEPSON SALTS FOR BATH __________________________________________________

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Every child is so different. We tried td-dmps for over a year without success. I have heard similar results with other children. We will probably try a suppository next.

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I might add that sometimes slow effects are better all around-we move slowly and my grandson is doing great. With some children(and i am not saying all) the quick method has dire effects. MaurineNora Middleton <tikigalpacbell (DOT) net> wrote:

Regarding transdermal chelation, at the last DAN conference they weren't too big on it ... the effects are too slow. Oral, suppository and IV were considered more effective - in that ascending order.

Our DAn didn't bother with a test prior to anti-viral treatment we just did a trial and judged the effectiveness of that. I also understand that in the tests to show viral load, you could catch it if an "off" or resting (non-replication) phase and not have a true picture, therefore several tests would be necessary.

Hope it helps...

Nora

Hi EveryoneHas anyone used this before? My DAN Doc gave me information on this product but I don't know much about it. I have a meeting with her on Tuesday.I am trying to figure out what should be the next step for my son. Should I use antivirals & antifungals? Is there a test that I need to do to determine this. Should I ask to try a Transdermal DMPS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This is all so overwhelming.We have seen improvements so far but like everyone else I WANT MORE!!!ThanksAnnette This is what my 4 year old son is currently onCod liver oil Primrose oil TMG Vitamins and Minerals Brainchild VitaminsSelenium drops Glutathione creamVitamin C Calcium Liver LifeEnzymes ProbioticMagnesium MB12 spray P5P B6 MolybdenumMalic Acid Ionic Zinc Zinc brainchildEPSON SALTS FOR BATH

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been there-done that with DMPS for 6 months with no results-switched to TD DMSA from Lee Silsby-had to stop in middle last week cause Josh got sick, but going to start again next Friday. maurinegartgal@... wrote: Every child is so different. We tried td-dmps for over a year without success. I have heard similar results with other children. We will probably try a suppository next. -------------- Original message from Maurine Meleck <maurine_meleck>: -------------- I might add that sometimes slow effects are better all around-we move slowly and my grandson is doing great. With some children(and i am not saying all) the quick method has dire effects. MaurineNora Middleton <tikigalpacbell (DOT) net> wrote: Regarding transdermal chelation, at the last DAN conference they weren't too big on it ... the effects are too slow. Oral, suppository and IV were considered more effective - in that ascending order. Our DAn didn't bother with a test prior to anti-viral treatment we just did a trial and judged the effectiveness

of that. I also understand that in the tests to show viral load, you could catch it if an "off" or resting (non-replication) phase and not have a true picture, therefore several tests would be necessary. Hope it helps... Nora Hi EveryoneHas anyone used this before? My DAN Doc gave me information on this product but I don't know much about it. I have a meeting with her on Tuesday.I am trying to figure out what should be the next step for my son. Should I use antivirals & antifungals? Is there a test that I need to do to determine this. Should I ask to try a Transdermal DMPS. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

This is all so overwhelming.We have seen improvements so far but like everyone else I WANT MORE!!!ThanksAnnette This is what my 4 year old son is currently onCod liver oil Primrose oil TMG Vitamins and Minerals Brainchild VitaminsSelenium drops Glutathione creamVitamin C Calcium Liver LifeEnzymes ProbioticMagnesium MB12 spray P5P B6 MolybdenumMalic Acid Ionic Zinc Zinc brainchildEPSON SALTS FOR BATH __________________________________________________

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My son has been on NDF Plus for 2 years now, here are a few of my

updates from the BioRay board:

NDF Plus pulled (hair analysis pre-NDF Plus and after 5 months)in the

first five months, starting with a diluted dose and working our way

SLOWLY up to 15 drops twice a day: aluminum, arsenic, bismuth,

cadmium, lead, mercury, nickel, tin.

It is helping my son function, lowering his sensory sensitivities,

gets rid of his temper and rages, allows him to focus, allows him to

make sounds, attempts at words and words, decrease his OCD, makes him

more affectionate, and lets the school, peers, nieghbors, church,

friends, family see the smart, gentle, loving boy that I see.

I haven't posted in a while, we have been through such a rough

patch. It seems Dylan is finally back on track after much trial and

error, decoding of behaviors, and removal of this and that....

He was sick for so long, with his ears, vomiting, and yeast. His

behaviors went from bad to worse, and school had even asked if I

could medicate him!!! After speaking with Tami and Stan Kurtz, I

realized I had to remove the nasal MB12. I love the nasal, and plan

to restart it again soon, but he was reacting horribly to the

folinic in the spray. It had caused my sweet little man to start

hitting, kicking and throwing at school, at home he bit his

therapist and all in all was a monster to be around. Once I removed

the folinic, within a week he was improved. Now 3 weeks later he is

my sweet little peanut once again.

He has been back on NDF Plus for about a 1 1/2 - 2 weeks now. With

the removal of folinic, the undesireable behaviors went away by

about 75-80% I would say, and by restarting the NDF Plus the

undesired behaviors are completely gone and his stimming, which was

way out of control, has drastically decreased. He had been stimming

by doing the alphabet in sign language repeatedly, now we just don't

see that. His mood swings are also now gone, and he is kickin' butt

in school!!! He was adding, doing a worksheet and was able to look

at the eguation and write in an answer without using counters, dots,

or his fingers!!! He is back in the first grade classroom, where

during the rough spot he was back in the OT room where it is dark,

quiet and no demands are put on him.

His appetite has changed, while " off " he was not eating, and was

looking very skeletal. Now that he is back to himself, he has

regained his appetite, and even those first few days back on NDF

Plus he was an eating machine!!! I couldn't get him out of the

kitchen! But I was just so happy to see him eating again that I let

him go to town!

I have also noticed that I have been able to decrease some of his

vitamins.....taurine, was at 2000 mg daily, now takes 500 mg daily.

His B complex, he was taking 2 capsules, I have been able to cut

that in half since noticing that he was urinating the excess b's out!

I also restarted the Liver Life, he is taking one drop in the a.m.

only for now.

He finished diflucan about 1 1/2 weeks ago, and the next day he had

an ear infection. Today is his last day on zithromax, and I fear

tomorrow it will flare up again. I really feel that the ear trouble

is yeast/bacteria that I cannot get under control, only when on

prescription yeast/bacteria fighters.

I am so glad I have him back on NDF Plus, he is such a different

kid, so much more verbal, aware, compliant, and his auditory

processing skills go through the roof while on NDF Plus. He just

amazes me! He is so smart, and now that the aggressions are gone,

everyone can see what a smart little boy is inside that quiet kiddo.

Thanks Tami for all the constant help and support,

Colleen

Mom to Dylan, 8

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> Has anyone used this before? My DAN Doc gave me information on

this

> product but I don't know much about it. I have a meeting with her

on

> Tuesday.

>

> I am trying to figure out what should be the next step for my son.

> Should I use antivirals & antifungals? Is there a test that I need

> to do to determine this. Should I ask to try a Transdermal DMPS.

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. This is all so

> overwhelming.

>

> We have seen improvements so far but like everyone else I WANT

> MORE!!!

>

> Thanks

>

> Annette

>

> This is what my 4 year old son is currently on

>

> Cod liver oil

> Primrose oil

> TMG

> Vitamins and Minerals Brainchild Vitamins

> Selenium drops

> Glutathione cream

> Vitamin C

> Calcium

> Liver Life

> Enzymes

> Probiotic

> Magnesium

> MB12 spray

> P5P B6

> Molybdenum

> Malic Acid

> Ionic Zinc

> Zinc brainchild

> EPSON SALTS FOR BATH

>