Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Allan, My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7, on my lumbar area, nothing is showing in the MRI. I am having an EMG on Monday, so i may have more answers then. Any help anyone has, I would greatly appreciate, I am in so much constant pain, it is unreal and I have almost no use of my right arm and hand due to the pressure on the nerves in my neck. Thanks so much for offering. Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Shari and Tammy Shari and Tammy; I've just read your posts. You may be aware that I've just picked up the latest version of Louise Hay's 'Heal Your Body' which is also the central part of 'You Can Heal Your Life.' One of the things that amazed me is that there is now an entire section devoted to the back. Each vertibrae is listed from the Cervical Spine (1-C to 7-C), through the Thoracic (1-T to 12-T) to the Lumbar (1-L to 5-L), Sacrum and Coccyx. Each one has a 'Probable Cause' and 'New Thought Pattern'. If you (or anyone else with back injuries) know exactly where you have an injury just tell me and I'll be more than happy to look it up for you. This goes for any other problems anyone may have. If you don't have a copy of either one of these books just ask me and I'll consult mine. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Shari, I also have neck injuries while networking a business I hurt my neck in the C-4, C-5, C-6,areas. My right arm was completely numb for sometime but now I am much better. It still happens to me but I guess you learn to watch yourself more LOL I did at least. I hated the EMG I don't want to scare you but it hurt like a #$%^ & . Many people tell me though they didn't feel a thing so don't go by me. I can take alot of pain but that was annoying... Good luck! Nola -- Re: Allan/Shari and Tammy Allan, My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7, on my lumbar area, nothing is showing in the MRI. I am having an EMG on Monday, so i may have more answers then. Any help anyone has, I would greatly appreciate, I am in so much constant pain, it is unreal and I have almost no use of my right arm and hand due to the pressure on the nerves in my neck. Thanks so much for offering. Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 wow Allan! Absolutely Wonderful !!! Boy do these fit! I am amazed! Thank you for sharing this...Nola -- Re: Allan/Shari and Tammy >Allan, >My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7,- Shari That's quite a list. Hope this helps: Probable Cause New Thought Pattern C-3 PC: " Accepting blame for others. Guilt. Martyrhood. Indecision. Grinding down of one's self. Biting off more than one can chew. " NTP: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. " C-4 PC: " Guilt. Repressed anger. Bitterness. Bottled-up feelings. Stuffed tears. NTP: " I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. " C-5 PC: " Fear of ridicule and humiliation. Fear of expression. Rejecting one's good. Overburdened. " NTP: " My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. " C-6 PC: " Burdens. Overload. Trying to fix others. Resistance. Inflexibility. " NTP: " I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. " C-7 PC: " Confusion. Anger. Feeling helpless. Can't reach out. " NTP: " I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " The New Thought Patterns brought together: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " Now it is very hard to train your mind to naturally think these thoughts. However, as Olympic runners have found out, it is easier to train when you have someone (or something) to pace you. I would recommend recording this over and over again on both sides of a 60 minute tape. It will be most powerful if recorded in your own voice. Then listen to it over and over and over again. Repeating along with it in your mind. I tend to be very obsessive and try to aim for at least one to two hours a day. Fortunately, I spent at least two hours a day on the bus and subway, so this is when I do it. I also listen to my tape when I'm reading the newspaper, cooking dinner or thinking about other things. Yesterday I spent three hours reading the Sunday paper with my headphones on, because I believe that it still registers somewhere in our brain, the less powerfully than if it is the focus of our attention. When I'm alone I also repeat it out loud some of the time. And when I'm on the bus or subway, I am forever trying to keep my lips from moving (LOL) as I repeat along in my mind. I have found that it takes about a week before I am gracefully 'running' along-side the tape. However, I have also found that sometime around the tenth day some sort of 'healing crisis' occurs that cranks up the volume of negative thoughts in my mind to the point where I want to give up. I have found that if I push through this (it can take a couple of days), it keeps on getting easier and easier. I've also noticed that it takes at least 40 to 60 days for me to notice any changes and then another 40 to 60 days for me to notice that it actually seems to be working. So it takes a real sustained effort. But then what is 80 to 120 days of thinking yourself out of these problems, when you've likely spent decades and decades thinking yourself into them. best of luck Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 >Allan, >My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7,- Shari That's quite a list. Hope this helps: Probable Cause New Thought Pattern C-3 PC: " Accepting blame for others. Guilt. Martyrhood. Indecision. Grinding down of one's self. Biting off more than one can chew. " NTP: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. " C-4 PC: " Guilt. Repressed anger. Bitterness. Bottled-up feelings. Stuffed tears. " NTP: " I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. " C-5 PC: " Fear of ridicule and humiliation. Fear of expression. Rejecting one's good. Overburdened. " NTP: " My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. " C-6 PC: " Burdens. Overload. Trying to fix others. Resistance. Inflexibility. " NTP: " I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. " C-7 PC: " Confusion. Anger. Feeling helpless. Can't reach out. " NTP: " I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " The New Thought Patterns brought together: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " Now it is very hard to train your mind to naturally think these thoughts. However, as Olympic runners have found out, it is easier to train when you have someone (or something) to pace you. I would recommend recording this over and over again on both sides of a 60 minute tape. It will be most powerful if recorded in your own voice. Then listen to it over and over and over again. Repeating along with it in your mind. I tend to be very obsessive and try to aim for at least one to two hours a day. Fortunately, I spent at least two hours a day on the bus and subway, so this is when I do it. I also listen to my tape when I'm reading the newspaper, cooking dinner or thinking about other things. Yesterday I spent three hours reading the Sunday paper with my headphones on, because I believe that it still registers somewhere in our brain, the less powerfully than if it is the focus of our attention. When I'm alone I also repeat it out loud some of the time. And when I'm on the bus or subway, I am forever trying to keep my lips from moving (LOL) as I repeat along in my mind. I have found that it takes about a week before I am gracefully 'running' along-side the tape. However, I have also found that sometime around the tenth day some sort of 'healing crisis' occurs that cranks up the volume of negative thoughts in my mind to the point where I want to give up. I have found that if I push through this (it can take a couple of days), it keeps on getting easier and easier. I've also noticed that it takes at least 40 to 60 days for me to notice any changes and then another 40 to 60 days for me to notice that it actually seems to be working. So it takes a real sustained effort. But then what is 80 to 120 days of thinking yourself out of these problems, when you've likely spent decades and decades thinking yourself into them. best of luck Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 As I've said before; I think Louise Hay deserves the Noble Prize for Medicine. I did a quick count the other day and she's figured this stuff out for something like 430 different problems and diseases. Absolutely amazing. Allan wow Allan! Absolutely Wonderful !!! Boy do these fit! I am amazed! Thank you for sharing this...Nola -------Original Message------- >Allan, >My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7,- Shari That's quite a list. Hope this helps: Probable Cause New Thought Pattern C-3 PC: " Accepting blame for others. Guilt. Martyrhood. Indecision. Grinding down of one's self. Biting off more than one can chew. " NTP: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. " C-4 PC: " Guilt. Repressed anger. Bitterness. Bottled-up feelings. Stuffed tears. NTP: " I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. " C-5 PC: " Fear of ridicule and humiliation. Fear of expression. Rejecting one's good. Overburdened. " NTP: " My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. " C-6 PC: " Burdens. Overload. Trying to fix others. Resistance. Inflexibility. " NTP: " I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. " C-7 PC: " Confusion. Anger. Feeling helpless. Can't reach out. " NTP: " I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " The New Thought Patterns brought together: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " Now it is very hard to train your mind to naturally think these thoughts. However, as Olympic runners have found out, it is easier to train when you have someone (or something) to pace you. I would recommend recording this over and over again on both sides of a 60 minute tape. It will be most powerful if recorded in your own voice. Then listen to it over and over and over again. Repeating along with it in your mind. I tend to be very obsessive and try to aim for at least one to two hours a day. Fortunately, I spent at least two hours a day on the bus and subway, so this is when I do it. I also listen to my tape when I'm reading the newspaper, cooking dinner or thinking about other things. Yesterday I spent three hours reading the Sunday paper with my headphones on, because I believe that it still registers somewhere in our brain, the less powerfully than if it is the focus of our attention. When I'm alone I also repeat it out loud some of the time. And when I'm on the bus or subway, I am forever trying to keep my lips from moving (LOL) as I repeat along in my mind. I have found that it takes about a week before I am gracefully 'running' along-side the tape. However, I have also found that sometime around the tenth day some sort of 'healing crisis' occurs that cranks up the volume of negative thoughts in my mind to the point where I want to give up. I have found that if I push through this (it can take a couple of days), it keeps on getting easier and easier. I've also noticed that it takes at least 40 to 60 days for me to notice any changes and then another 40 to 60 days for me to notice that it actually seems to be working. So it takes a real sustained effort. But then what is 80 to 120 days of thinking yourself out of these problems, when you've likely spent decades and decades thinking yourself into them. best of luck Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Shari, you poor thing. I know why you are bummed out now. Rest, be careful, and definitely make it to the doctors for that test! Good Luck! PJ shari wrote:Allan, My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7, on my lumbar area, nothing is showing in the MRI. I am having an EMG on Monday, so i may have more answers then. Any help anyone has, I would greatly appreciate, I am in so much constant pain, it is unreal and I have almost no use of my right arm and hand due to the pressure on the nerves in my neck. Thanks so much for offering. Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Shari and Tammy Shari and Tammy; I've just read your posts. You may be aware that I've just picked up the latest version of Louise Hay's 'Heal Your Body' which is also the central part of 'You Can Heal Your Life.' One of the things that amazed me is that there is now an entire section devoted to the back. Each vertibrae is listed from the Cervical Spine (1-C to 7-C), through the Thoracic (1-T to 12-T) to the Lumbar (1-L to 5-L), Sacrum and Coccyx. Each one has a 'Probable Cause' and 'New Thought Pattern'. If you (or anyone else with back injuries) know exactly where you have an injury just tell me and I'll be more than happy to look it up for you. This goes for any other problems anyone may have. If you don't have a copy of either one of these books just ask me and I'll consult mine. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Shari, Girl I don't want to discourage you however this incident happened to me while networking a business. I picked up a brand new Dell computer out of a box and something snapped. I heard it. This was back in 1999 and within a couple of days, I was laid up for two years. Workmans Comp paid for me for a year and a half and then said I was ready to go back to work. I tried it and was thrown back into that awful pain for another month later. I chose to go it on my own and used my savings at that time to support myself since they wouldn't anymore. But I KNEW I wasn't better and all the doctors failed me. It wasn't a pleasant experience at that time, I was laid up in bed for half my day so my thoughts and prayers go out to you Shari. Well, in answer to your question, it had to be about three years before it all slowed down for me. I though would force myself to do things that I was told not to do. I wouldn't take it lying down anymore and I did my own rehabilitation. One that I knew would strengthen the muscles AROUND my injury and this helped me tremendously. I would lay on the couch and lean my head off the couch turning my head every day more and more. I did this for sometime to strengthen at my own pace and not the doctors and Workmans comp pace. If you can strengthen those muscles all around your neck it will help you so your neck isn't holding on its own with an injury. Maybe this might have taken longer for me because had I started this in the beginning, slowly I would have been better faster. I refused to take any of those pills they wanted to give me EXCEPT Relafen. That is an amazing medication and it helped to take the swelling down in my neck so I could continue with my exercises. I went through all the tests you are about to go through but the whole time I felt like a number being passed from one person or clinic to the next. So I took it all on myself and I would say that by the end of 2002 I finally could go almost a week without any pain or discomfort. No numbing, only when I did something that I knew I shouldn't but there again, I was alone and no one to help and someone has to do it right? You just learn what you can do and what you can't and then how to do it when you really need to be that one person. I wish you all the best. I know how bad it all is. Try to do different things, starting slowly to strengthen those muscles around the entire neck area without doing too much that you damage yourself in any way. I would do five minutes here and there all day long and this really did help me. Hope this will do the same for you. Only YOU know the pain and only you will be able to know when to stop and start again Lots of Hugs for You...Nola -- Re: Allan/Shari and Tammy Nola, How long did it take for the pain and numbness to leave the arm? It has been 4 months since my injury. I am anxious for it to leave!!!!! Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Re: Allan/Shari and Tammy Allan, My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7, on my lumbar area, nothing is showing in the MRI. I am having an EMG on Monday, so i may have more answers then. Any help anyone has, I would greatly appreciate, I am in so much constant pain, it is unreal and I have almost no use of my right arm and hand due to the pressure on the nerves in my neck. Thanks so much for offering. Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 >Allan, >Appreciate you writing in with portions of Lousie's book. I have the older version of heal your body and heal your life......I should look for the newer versions. >Is that much more in the newer ones to be worth getting? >Susie Susie: I feel 'drawn' to healing. I 'accidentally' opened a healing centre in 1987 (it closed in 1995). I thought I was getting into the stress management/enhanced meditation field (I have a strong academic background in Religion and in particular Eastern Religion) and without quite intending to, I suddenly found myself in an unexpected world. A year after opening a 'flotation centre' I expanded my premises and had acupuncturists, massage therapists, shiatsu thereapists etc. etc. working for me (not that I ever made a lot of money, hence my 1995 bankruptcy). At the peak my centre offered about a dozen different therapies. Of course, I decided that I had to learn more and so I studied Reflexology, Shiatsu, Reiki, NLP and Hypnosis. But it wasn't done out of a sense of calling (well... all except the hypnosis, where I felt like a fish 'in' water). It was more a business interest because I felt that I should know this world. However, certain things have happened to me in the last few years that have made me realize that it wasn't an accident. My future lies somewhere in this world. I really feel that I was 'called' to it. It just took me a long, long time to realize this. I'm still trying to feel my way and figure things out. The biggest most recent leap I've made is realizing that Louise Hay has done something extraordinary (along with another giant leap thirteen years ago, when I devoured everything I could find about Milton kson MD, one of the most extraoridnary hypnotherapists who has ever lived). I really am quite a skeptic. My father had a Ph.D. in Geochemistry and I was raised with the 'god' of science. I test and test and test until things usually break. Louise Hay has held up to everything I've been able to throw at her. This is why I want the most up-to-date version. Everytime I read about a disease in the newpaper I look it up. Everytime someone tells me about an ailment, I run home and consult my book. I keep on wondering how long it would take me to memorize all 430 diseases, their probable causes and new thought patterns. My boss has a shoulder problem. I told him (paraphrasing the probable cause) " shoulders are meant to carry joy, not burdens. " He looked at me like I was from Mars and then told me that he had simply injured himself working out. Of course, he is carrying quite a burden. I can see it in his eyes. This is why I want the most up-to-date version. Not because of my own problems. They're all listed in my 1988 version. But because of everything I see around me. You might not need it. Though if you have back problems, this section doesn't exist in the some of the older ones. So... Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 >Allan, >WOW, those things all fit me! Thanks. I am not sure I can keep anything up for that amount of time, but I am sure going to try! At this point the pain in my upper right side of my body is almost always at least and 8 if not more. Thanks. These things do fit me to a Tee!! It is amazing! Thanks so much! >Shari Shari; The great thing is that it seems like a real amount of work when it's written down. However, I does take on a momentum of it's own and gets easier and easier until it almost becomes like a 'habit'. Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Allan, I am struggling trying to figure something out associated with this. Does this mean that the pain is not real and that it is all in my head because of the way I believe about myself? And why did it just start when I fell 4 months ago? I am confused, because mentally, I am probably in better shape than I have been in years, if not ever. Sorry, if these are duh questions, but anything but regular old medicine is foreign to me. It does not mean I do not believe it will work, in fact, I have a friend who does reiki that I want to try that on me, unfortunately, she is visiting in Russia for the summer! Sorry to bug you about this! Shari http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BasicComputerHelpforFriends http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/Survivors_Learning_to_Thrive Re: Allan/Shari and Tammy >Allan, >My neck injuries are C-3, C-4, C-5, C-6, C-7,- Shari That's quite a list. Hope this helps: Probable Cause New Thought Pattern C-3 PC: " Accepting blame for others. Guilt. Martyrhood. Indecision. Grinding down of one's self. Biting off more than one can chew. " NTP: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. " C-4 PC: " Guilt. Repressed anger. Bitterness. Bottled-up feelings. Stuffed tears. " NTP: " I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. " C-5 PC: " Fear of ridicule and humiliation. Fear of expression. Rejecting one's good. Overburdened. " NTP: " My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. " C-6 PC: " Burdens. Overload. Trying to fix others. Resistance. Inflexibility. " NTP: " I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. " C-7 PC: " Confusion. Anger. Feeling helpless. Can't reach out. " NTP: " I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " The New Thought Patterns brought together: " I am responsible only for myself and I rejoice in who I am. I can handle all that I create. I am clear in my communication with life. I am free to enjoy life right now. My communication is clear. I accept my good. I let go of all expectations. I am loved and safe. I lovingly release others to their own lessons. I lovingly care for myself. I move with ease through life. I have a right to be me. I forgive the past. I know who I am. I touch others with love. " Now it is very hard to train your mind to naturally think these thoughts. However, as Olympic runners have found out, it is easier to train when you have someone (or something) to pace you. I would recommend recording this over and over again on both sides of a 60 minute tape. It will be most powerful if recorded in your own voice. Then listen to it over and over and over again. Repeating along with it in your mind. I tend to be very obsessive and try to aim for at least one to two hours a day. Fortunately, I spent at least two hours a day on the bus and subway, so this is when I do it. I also listen to my tape when I'm reading the newspaper, cooking dinner or thinking about other things. Yesterday I spent three hours reading the Sunday paper with my headphones on, because I believe that it still registers somewhere in our brain, the less powerfully than if it is the focus of our attention. When I'm alone I also repeat it out loud some of the time. And when I'm on the bus or subway, I am forever trying to keep my lips from moving (LOL) as I repeat along in my mind. I have found that it takes about a week before I am gracefully 'running' along-side the tape. However, I have also found that sometime around the tenth day some sort of 'healing crisis' occurs that cranks up the volume of negative thoughts in my mind to the point where I want to give up. I have found that if I push through this (it can take a couple of days), it keeps on getting easier and easier. I've also noticed that it takes at least 40 to 60 days for me to notice any changes and then another 40 to 60 days for me to notice that it actually seems to be working. So it takes a real sustained effort. But then what is 80 to 120 days of thinking yourself out of these problems, when you've likely spent decades and decades thinking yourself into them. best of luck Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2003 Report Share Posted June 11, 2003 Hi Allan, You story was great to read. I have never been into meditation,acupuncture, massage..............HUM I guess I've never gotten into anything you mention except reflexology and that I just read a little about it. I must have missed your emails about your medical problems. Write me off list please and let me know. I enjoyed reading this, Susie PS.......I have had some back and neck problems but nothing too bad. Susie: I feel 'drawn' to healing. .......................................Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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