Bag Ladies

[Guest guest]

Me too, Toni! Even have some poems (some of them mine, some of them a gifted

wonderful " surrogate daughter " ) about the bags themselves. All I maybe

once wanted for Christmas was my two front teeth; all I might have

Christmas-wished for this peculiar week would have been someone I could

crack a few jokes with about all these big plastic bags!!

Onward or Upward or Cheers and or the whatever? Write and tell me about your

WEATHERS!!

Cheerio m' dearieo,

" me/marte "

-- Re: Thanks, lovely Toni

Dear Marte,

One of these days remind me to tell you about my image of myself as a " bag

lady "

It seems to have become a myth for many of us...and money is always

important to one's ability to eat, wear clothes, have a roof over one's

head, and buy BOOKS

Toni

There'll always be an England

snip

she told me a 'cautionary tale' about

> a student of hers who got so engrossed in this phenomenon that she had

what

> I suppose in today's languages and thought systems would be called " a

> nervous breakdown " or a " psychotic break " . So I do try to keep this in

mind

> as one of the many guides I've received about " one thing and another " (I

> forget who, among JUNG-FIRE sent along a Sufi treatise I did take the time

> to print out because of what it had to say about deliberately-induced

> altered states of consciousness " , along lines of what one of you recently

> posted about whether Marie Louise von-Franz " admired " or just " sympathised

> with " drug experimenters....

>

> Well, this has gotten preposterously long. For Toni: look, I'm sorry if

my

> remark about being " on my way out " didn't quite resonate for you! Take it,

> maybe, as an upside-down way of affirming what it's like, this, so some of

> earlier ?jungians? used to call it, " Last Stage of Life " . Some of my

> on-line friends who send along all sorts of hoped-to-be comicke

forwardings

> about one thing or another, have liked forwarding little mots about old

age

> and purple. Maybe I should read Alice 's book except I'm afraid my

> greedy disposition really doesn't have the time left to do that -- my task

> right now seems to me partly to be how to get all these books OUTTA HERE

> before I kick off and who knows who is going to have to come to this my

> currently woefully or wildly dishevelled house and clean up the mess

( " apres

> moi le deluge " ).

>

> For a semi-final (it would be ?suicidal?! of me to say " final " , even

though

> all this effluence of words always embarrasses me in new encounterings)

> word:

>

> Thanks All of You.

>

> You are a Wonderful Group, and I am (Toni, please don't " get mad at me " ???

I

> ve been with so many people's actual dyings and am trying so hard to learn

> how to 'get this right' both as to me personally and as to what in the

wider

> world is so threatened right now by war plans), am " on my way out " in the

> sense that everyone always is, without knowing exactly where on the time

> spectrum, and for me, a part of that is probably going to have to be the

> Willful Disorderliness of the " old-and-purple " style, by god. I mean, I

DO

> want to prevent some poor hapless soul having to come into this house and

> mop up and clear away all sorts of the " me " that won't look to that person

> like what he or she wanted to remember of me, but I got a lovely comicke

> gifte on that one yesterday when I had to let the phone repair man come in

> here to discover that my phones and my computer weren't working because

the

> long phone line cord had gotten squished underneath my rocking chair.

What

> s more, I'm deaf and hadn't put new batteries into my hearing aids, and

I --

> what? Once Young And Beautiful? (and shapely and singing?) was in a

> definitely Velveteen Rabbit ?robe?, and what hair or hairs left still

rooted

> into my head were definitely not of the stylistic (and photographed) mode

of

> all these damn ads that accost me every time I turn on my computer and

send

> imprecations to/against the two stalwartly determined guys who pushed me

to

> get the thing and learn its Pandora's Box.

>

> One of my schticks about Jung and the typology (as well as other sort of

> academic modes') has to do with laughter.

>

> LONG TOPIC!

>

> So, for a shortcut, this observation from the first of my two jungian

> analysts: One day she shared with me what she was only just then observing

> and putting into thought: that a person's Inferior Function could in part

be

> identified by noting in what realm (so to speak) the person was PLAYFUL!!

>

> Do you think Jung, in all his erudition & etc., ever knew how to be

playful?

> I confess I worry about him on this score! Isn't that silly?

>

> Anyway, Alice, god love her, has known this all along! I had a wonderful

> dream Wednesday of last week that partly included some Alice stuff. Hope

I

> ll get it off before " if I should die before I wake " (now don't get MAD at

> me, Toni!!

>

> Love to all you " guys " even though I'm going (at least for the moment) to

> stick with my image and sense that a 'campfire " of 144 people is too big a

> one for me????

>

> marte hall