Re: someone had asked me my intrests, here they are.

October 30, 2004

At 03:30 AM 10/30/04 -0000, aspergian_mutant wrote:

>

>i studyed volumes (and i do meen whole enclyclopedias and anything i

>can get my hands on) on

>

>natrul herbs and remadys,

That can be fascinating stuff! I've studied a good bit of that, too, as

part of my ongoing interest in nutrition. There was a point in my life when

I thought I might want to go to Bastyr College to study naturopathic

medicine. I was working on a pre-med undergrad degree with the plan to then

go and get a chiropractic degree (so I could legally practice in any state)

and then go to get a N.D. at Bastyr. Several things happened in my personal

life at that point that led me to realize that I wasn't cut out for the

heavy academic competition it would take to get to that point.

I realized I'd rather be something else like a teacher or a translator.

When I came home from school one day and told the guy I'd been living with

for a couple of years that I'd changed my mind and would rather be

something else than a doctor, he got angry and ended up leaving me. I think

he had invested so much energy in the idea of being married to a doctor

(and I get the impression that a lot of that was about impressing his

family and " finally showing them " that he could make something of his life,

even if the something was to be married to someone else who had made

something.)

>chemistry (explosives),

>(NOTE: like i had said befor, the physics of it just fasenated me, i

>dont have a violent bone in my body or soul)

I don't know a whole lot about the physics or chemistry of explosions, I

just like them. There's an event every Spring in Northern Idaho called the

Boomer Shoot where they set little containers of explosives out in a field

and people line up and shoot at them all day. When you hit one, it blows up

with a HUGE fireball that's really cool. Call me a hick, but that's my idea

of FUN! :-)

(this is the webpage of the boomer shoot with information and videos of

explosions:

http://www.boomershoot.org/ )

>phylosophy,

That's one I have a hard time with. Philosophy gives me a huge headache! I

have a lot of admiration for others who can find their way through the

thought-mazes!

>most all the major modern religions, and many of the anchent non

>existing ones as well.

>

>anchent hystory,

I like history (both ancient and more recent) quite a bit and have pretty

much been brought up with comparative religion (my parents were a bit

eccentric in that area, bringing me up with the texts and ideas of lots of

different religions as a child. They were eccentric enough that when they

decided to have a church wedding, they ended up getting married in a

Unitarian-Universalist church because that was the only church that would

have them! LOL)

Lately, I've been more interested in recent history, especially the history

of WWII and Vietnam, but I've spent a lot of time reading and studying

ancient history. For a while, I thought I wanted to major in Classical

Studies (which is when I ended up learning Attic Greek) so I've especially

studied a lot about the Hellenistic period and related topics like Minoa.

>and i have a thing for computers, i didnt study computers but when it

>comes to softwere errors and my computer bugs out i tend to go nuts

>not wanting to eat or sleep tills its fixed, and the nabors used to

>bug me all the time to fix theirs, but i quit doing that after a

>while for fear of something going wrong and i get blamed for it, and

>i started feeling they was taking too much advantage of me and i get

>nothing in return,

Good for you! My partner does computers for a living (online database

administrator) and he gets people asking him to help them with their

computer problems and he will either politely say no or he will charge them

money (though I've noticed that he charges friends a WHOLE lot less than

the market rate for doing computer work.)

When people develop specialized skills or knowledge, there will always be

people trying to take advantage of them for it. Don't let people take

advantage of you! It's one thing to help a friend and another to let people

just drain you.

There's a girl at school who talked to me one day when she ran into me in a

coffee house (I was waiting for someone who never showed up. grr!) and then

another day she saw me coming out of the computer lab where I'd gone to

print out some homework. She mentioned a homework project she was working

on and we ended up having a big conversation about the difference between

Locke's and Hobbe's views of the purpose of government (We're both

political science majors.) She has to write a paper about that topic and so

after that, every time she'd see me before or after class, she'd ask me if

I could get together with her to talk some more about that.

The first few times she asked me, I was busy during the times that she

could get together. I was flattered at first that she wanted to spend time

wit me and thought that maybe I was about to form a new friendship. But

then I noticed that she would only ask me when no one else was around, like

if she ran into me in the bathroom or something. And when her friends were

around, she wouldn't look at me, wouldn't wave at me, and if I came up to

talk to her, would act really funny and different from how she was around

me when no one else was around.

Finally (it sometimes takes a hammer blow to the head for me to realize the

obvious) I realized that she was just tyring to use me, to get me to give

her all the information for her paper so she didn't have to study and learn

the material herself. Now, even when I'm not busy during the time she wants

to get together, I come up with some excuse. And I'm so glad that I had

other obligations earlier and didn't end up getting together with her to

let her use me!

Experiences like that make it so hard for me to trust people I meet! After

a while, I can start to feel like no one wants to really be my friend, they

just want to use me. That's when I start doing that thing I was talking

about in the other post -- pushing people away before I even give them a

chance.

>but thats the way i get when resurching something, i cant stop

>thinking on it, i tunnelvision on the subjects, and if something dont

>intrest me i cant seem to focas on it. (same with work)

I'm the same way. If I'm not interested in it, studying it is " like pulling

teeth " -- slow and painful and something I'd rather avoid!

>once i am more stable with an income i intend on finishing getting my

>GED and perhaps take up writing, many tell me i am exalent with words

>when i want to be, esp poetry and fantisy storys.

I got my GED instead of graduating high school. Good luck with that!

And good luck with your writing! It can be a very hard field to break into.

I wanted to write for a living ... until I actually started doing it and

found out what it's like. As a result, I hate publishers, I hate book

expos, I hate book signings. It made me hate just about everything except

books! LOL! The publishing industry is a hard, cold place and freelance

writing is a hard way to make a living. At this point, the only way I'd

consider going back to writing would be to get a corporate job writing copy

or manuals -- something where I don't have to sell every job and go be in

the public spotlight to sell it and harass a deadbeat publisher for my

money. Just a nice little cubicle, regular assignments from the bosses on

high and a regular paycheck for me!

But there are people out there " living the dream " so if you want to be a

fiction writer for a living, you can do it! Work hard and follow that dream

single-mindedly. While it burned me out, I'm also pretty wimpy when it

comes to dealing with crowds (which is a difference between you and me) and

uncertainty (if you can handle philosophy, you can handle uncertainty) and

I didn't like having to be salesperson, promoter, bill collector and writer

when all I really wanted to be was writer. Writing is a full-time job and

once you've finished the manuscript, that's just when it *starts*! It was

too much for me. But I give up easy ... Don't do what I did! Stick to it

and make it work! I'm rooting for you!

Sparrow

October 31, 2004

(SNIP)>

> Grammar rules are difficult to learn, but they are worth it, in my

opinion.

> Yesterday, a teacher handed out a sheet of instructions and I had

to sit

> there reading the first sentence three times before I figured out

what it

> said and meant! That's because the sentence was " Using the text

provided

> analysis it for the following: "

>

> Now maybe someone else would have immediately recognized what it

said, but

> because of the way my brain decodes and translates information, it

tripped

> me up and I had to sit and read it three times before I figured out

that it

> was supposed to say " Using the text provided, analyze it for the

> following: " (which is still awkward and unclear phrasing but is at

least

> grammatically correct.)

(SNIP)>

I found that sentence difficult too, until I read your explanation of

what it was supposed to say :-)

October 31, 2004

wrote:

"I just meant that they seem to have no consistant rules,

and so are really difficult to learn. That is why they are evil."

It's the public, themselves that make the rules non-consistant,

not the language, itself.

For example, the public today, especially on the Internet, do not

see the "need" for using capitalization at the beginning of a sentence.

There is no way to "enforce" this rule, now the Internet is here,

as there will always be those who tolerate such "violations", and

often encourage them.

Another rule, in English, of spelling the first person pronoun "I"

with a capital, is often ignored by the public these day.

It is not the language or the rules that are evil; it is the public

ignorance of these "rules" (which many call "stupid") that creates

the evil of having to read sentences like:

"i went down 2 the sho an saw a grate movee lait satrday nite"

When the public at large tolerates this "evil" in language, then

there is no reason to send children to school to learn to read and

write, other than learning the alphabet.....

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October 31, 2004

Sparrow wrote:

" If all things were judged 'evil' by the difficulty required in learning

them, there wouldn't be a single non-evil thing humans do beyond breath and

excrete wastes. Have you ever watched someone try to re-learn how to walk?

I watched my brother trying to learn to walk again and that was truly evil

in its difficulty. So is walking evil? "

Even life, itself, in this context, could be considered " evil " , as living,

itself,

is very hard to learn, with all the social cues, " norms " , idiosycracies, local

traditions, moods of individuals, politics (which we all know, by now, is evil),

and the cultural changes occuring rapidly all over the earth. Trying to get to

know how " orange " and " vermillion " interact with " sky blue " and " navy blue " ,

not to mention architecture, television programs, hollywood stars, all the

details of cars and driving patterns, parenting, sports and sports heroes, all

the different kinds of music, entertainment, recreation, fittness, tanning,

health

issues, schedules, appointments, cooking, cleaning, and even patterens in

sleeping, is a very difficult learning process for anyone. But does that mean

that all of life, due to this problem in learning is " evil " ?

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October 31, 2004

Sparrow wrote:

" That's because the sentence was " Using the text provided

analysis it for the following: "

Now maybe someone else would have immediately recognized

what it said, but because of the way my brain decodes and

translates information, it tripped me up and I had to sit and read it

three times before I figured out that it was supposed to say

" Using the text provided, analyze it for the following: "

(which is still awkward and unclear phrasing but is at least

grammatically correct.) "

The key, as I see it, was not the grammar, but the spelling of the

word " analyze " , which was mispelled as " analysis " . That was the

teacher breaking a rule of spelling in the instruction sheet.

It would be no different, in terms of spelling, if the Income Tax

instructions told you to " past " this return no later than a certain

date, when they meant you to understand it as " post " this return

no later.

Years ago, they had people trained as " proofreaders " to prevent

such occurances, but today, proofreading is a lost art (or should

I say " heart " ?)

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November 1, 2004

The problem with the "newspeak" that is going on is that it promotes mental laziness and hampers communication skills. Studies have shown that 20 years ago high school graduates had a vocabulary of about 25,000 words. Today that has shrunk to 15,000 or less. Part of that is due to the dreadful teaching that goes on in public schools and the other is this newspeak.

Newspeak has a very high reliance on slang, and often the same terms used again and again. When I was young we had slang, but it was like a spice that was used to perk up a conversation, it was not the main course like it is today. That does not even count the cursing. Ban cursing and you cut the average young person's vocabularly by half.

This has come about due to multiple causes. The first is the public schools where they don't bother to teach real reading and writing skills anymore. There is the thing called whole language which is really just a gimmick to protect lazy teachers. What it is is just teaching a few basic sounds and words as a whole, with emphasis on creativity in all things including spelling. (They are also trying the same thing in math where the student writes an essay defending the answers they come up with rather than making the kid actually learn math.) The second thing is pop culture, especially the movies and what passes for music these days. It is all so banal and not related to anything real. The language is a patois based on vulgarity and the smallest vocabulary possible. Way, dude, word and other things stand in for whole sentences, while other slang they use I can't even begin to comprehend and don't bother to try. All of that leads to a mental laziness. They speak lazy and generally you think like you speak, so they think lazy.

Writing like that is also harder to read than regular writing. You have to look at it and try to guess what the other person is trying to say. I suppose if it was used enough one could catch on, but why? These students are already known to be too lazy to study and complain about homework but yet they will put in the time to learn a second written language. Likewise, if someone does not know that alphabet, how can they communicate? It would be nice if the kids, and the so called professionals teaching them, would look ahead and realize that that kind of junk won't help them in the real world. Sure it might be OK if they have no higher aspirations that being cashiers or burger flippers, but if they want higher up jobs then they need to learn how to write and communicate in a real language that everyone knows.

The sad thing is that they don't see this. Indeed, many of them get out of school thinking they are the best in the world and that they should have everything their parents worked a liftetime for right away. Instead they get out their and find out they have learned nothing usable. Sure they have really high opinions of themselves, the schools did a great job of blowing smoke up their, um backsides, and making them feel full of themselves, but there is no substance to it. 30 years ago there were no remedial classes offered at college. Today they are a large part of the course catalogs. Businesses also spend a fortune training employees in the basics of math, writing and communications because the schools are not going it. Sure the schools pump them full of false bravado, environmental awareness and other radical chic ideas, but those won't get you a good job.

Well, I have gotten off course, but suffice it to say that this newspeak is just purely about mental weakness. The lack of vocabularly stifles indpendant thought since it leaves one without the words to form indpendant thoughts. Such thoughts might struggle to be formed, but lack of words makes it harder, which causes the natural tendency against making an effort to kick in, and the process is halted. Its so much easier just the parrot everyone else and keep up with banalities like fashion, reality shows and which entertainer is now sleeping with who. And while they are doing that they can complain about their crappy jobs, their mountains of debt and how the government is not doing enough to take care of them.

That is not even bringing sex into the matter. That has been blow WAY out of proportion these days. It seems to young NTs are being kept in a perpetual rutting state what with the music, videos movies and so on. Even the toys, more for the girls than the boys, are in the act. Barbie used to be a doctor and an astronaut, now she's street meat hanging in bars and on the street corner partying all the time. Well, since they can't talk and can't think I guess there isn't much else for them to do.

I think I will end it there. I would go into the political and cultural side of this, but given how close it is to the election and how heated much milder comments by others have become on here, I think I will hold my peace on that.

November 1, 2004

>

> " I just meant that they seem to have no consistant rules,

> and so are really difficult to learn. That is why they are

evil. "

>

> It's the public, themselves that make the rules non-consistant,

> not the language, itself.

>

> For example, the public today, especially on the Internet, do not

> see the " need " for using capitalization at the beginning of a

sentence.

> There is no way to " enforce " this rule, now the Internet is here,

> as there will always be those who tolerate such " violations " , and

> often encourage them.

>

> Another rule, in English, of spelling the first person pronoun " I "

> with a capital, is often ignored by the public these day.

>

> It is not the language or the rules that are evil; it is the public

> ignorance of these " rules " (which many call " stupid " ) that creates

> the evil of having to read sentences like:

>

> " i went down 2 the sho an saw a grate movee lait satrday

nite "

>

> When the public at large tolerates this " evil " in language, then

> there is no reason to send children to school to learn to read and

> write, other than learning the alphabet.....

I sometimes use words like 'going 2 and b4', mostly because it is

quicker to type and it is laziness on my part that and if I do a lot

of typing I have problems with my wrist (carpel tunnel syndrome). I

use it mostly on MSN, but sometimes in emails to people who know me.

bye 4 now (another example),

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November 1, 2004

wrote (about "Newspeak"):

"I think I will end it there. I would go into the political and cultural side of this,

but given how close it is to the election and how heated much milder comments

by others have become on here, I think I will hold my peace on that."

The entire message was very uplifting, , but I have to say that what you

referred to as "the election" applies to only one of hundreds of countries, and

the Internet, itself, is a global phenomena. Therefore, if you or anyone else wants

to comment on the political and cultural side of Newspeak, go right ahead, for the

rest of us who do not live in the United States (or its possessions) or who are not

American citizens are open to this discussion at this time, regardless of what is

going on in the U.S.

(Of course, even the abbreviation "U.S." could be considered Newspeak).

.....hmmm ...I wonder if "Germany" is Newspeak for Deutchland?

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November 1, 2004

Lol, friend, the human race evolves, and with it its evelution of its

language, tell me a time in hystory where there is a culture whos

language did not change and evolve, you may feel its not right, its

not proper, but futcher generations will differ, going owww wow man

this is so deep, i can relate, poor guy bogus, right on way kool this

guy rocks, its all a matter of comunication for the era you live in.

we are in the net era, language will radicly change in the next two

to three generations, and quicken as our own race ages, we are

growing in leeps and bounds, even the blind can see this, we are

evolving and changing as a race. even we as a race are splitting and

changing into indavidual units and groups of a whole, yet we all are

a part of the same.

its evelution. even if i cant spell it right

> The problem with the " newspeak " that is going on is that it

promotes mental

> laziness and hampers communication skills. Studies have shown that

20 years

> ago high school graduates had a vocabulary of about 25,000 words.

Today that

> has shrunk to 15,000 or less. Part of that is due to the dreadful

teaching that

> goes on in public schools and the other is this newspeak.

>

> Newspeak has a very high reliance on slang, and often the same

terms used

> again and again. When I was young we had slang, but it was like a

spice that was

> used to perk up a conversation, it was not the main course like it

is today.

> That does not even count the cursing. Ban cursing and you cut the

average

> young person's vocabularly by half.

>

> This has come about due to multiple causes. The first is the public

schools

> where they don't bother to teach real reading and writing skills

anymore.

> There is the thing called whole language which is really just a

gimmick to

> protect lazy teachers. What it is is just teaching a few basic

sounds and words as

> a whole, with emphasis on creativity in all things including

spelling. (They

> are also trying the same thing in math where the student writes an

essay

> defending the answers they come up with rather than making the kid

actually learn

> math.) The second thing is pop culture, especially the movies and

what

> passes for music these days. It is all so banal and not related to

anything real.

> The language is a patois based on vulgarity and the smallest

vocabulary

> possible. Way, dude, word and other things stand in for whole

sentences, while

> other slang they use I can't even begin to comprehend and don't

bother to try.

> All of that leads to a mental laziness. They speak lazy and

generally you

> think like you speak, so they think lazy.

>

> Writing like that is also harder to read than regular writing. You

have to

> look at it and try to guess what the other person is trying to say.

I suppose

> if it was used enough one could catch on, but why? These students

are already

> known to be too lazy to study and complain about homework but yet

they will

> put in the time to learn a second written language. Likewise, if

someone does

> not know that alphabet, how can they communicate? It would be nice

if the

> kids, and the so called professionals teaching them, would look

ahead and

> realize that that kind of junk won't help them in the real world.

Sure it might be

> OK if they have no higher aspirations that being cashiers or

burger flippers,

> but if they want higher up jobs then they need to learn how to

write and

> communicate in a real language that everyone knows.

>

> The sad thing is that they don't see this. Indeed, many of them get

out of

> school thinking they are the best in the world and that they should

have

> everything their parents worked a liftetime for right away. Instead

they get out

> their and find out they have learned nothing usable. Sure they have

really high

> opinions of themselves, the schools did a great job of blowing

smoke up

> their, um backsides, and making them feel full of themselves, but

there is no

> substance to it. 30 years ago there were no remedial classes

offered at college.

> Today they are a large part of the course catalogs. Businesses

also spend a

> fortune training employees in the basics of math, writing and

communications

> because the schools are not going it. Sure the schools pump them

full of

> false bravado, environmental awareness and other radical chic

ideas, but those

> won't get you a good job.

>

> Well, I have gotten off course, but suffice it to say that this

newspeak is

> just purely about mental weakness. The lack of vocabularly stifles

indpendant

> thought since it leaves one without the words to form indpendant

thoughts.

> Such thoughts might struggle to be formed, but lack of words makes

it harder,

> which causes the natural tendency against making an effort to kick

in, and the

> process is halted. Its so much easier just the parrot everyone

else and keep

> up with banalities like fashion, reality shows and which

entertainer is now

> sleeping with who. And while they are doing that they can complain

about

> their crappy jobs, their mountains of debt and how the government

is not doing

> enough to take care of them.

>

> That is not even bringing sex into the matter. That has been blow

WAY out of

> proportion these days. It seems to young NTs are being kept in a

perpetual

> rutting state what with the music, videos movies and so on. Even

the toys, more

> for the girls than the boys, are in the act. Barbie used to be a

doctor and

> an astronaut, now she's street meat hanging in bars and on the

street corner

> partying all the time. Well, since they can't talk and can't think

I guess

> there isn't much else for them to do.

>

> I think I will end it there. I would go into the political and

cultural side

> of this, but given how close it is to the election and how heated

much

> milder comments by others have become on here, I think I will hold

my peace on

> that.

>

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