Re: Larger head - due to edema

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan and others,

as Sue just mentioned, hasn't it been confirmed that our kids have more

water content in brain tissue? There were two studies that came our last

year - although they differed on the location of excessive water

content, both observed the same thing. Dr Marta Herbert talks briefly

about this in her DAN presentation (Spring 2006 I believe).

Natasa

>

> Hi from Sue,

> My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

for severe aggression)...

> that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

& lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

every day.

> I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> -Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Natasa,

That's correct. And why is there more water there?

- Stan

> >

> > Hi from Sue,

> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> for severe aggression)...

> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> every day.

> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > -Sue

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just another take on the larger head discussion:

All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high

forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since

childhood and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or

exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very

scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly

even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical " head " trait. So I think, at

least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.

DR

-------------- Original message ----------------------

> Hello Natasa,

>

> That's correct. And why is there more water there?

>

> - Stan

>

>

> >

> > Hi from Sue,

> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> for severe aggression)...

> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> every day.

> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > -Sue

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If fungus can be handed down from one generation to the next (and also sexually

transmitted, which I strongly believe), how do we really know what's genetic and

what is

just transmitted?

You may be right, but I wonder how much we blame genetics when something just

might

be passed from one generation to the next and written off as, " It must be

genetic. "

- Stan

> > > >

> > > > Hi from Sue,

> > > > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> > > when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> > > Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> > > yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> > > The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> > > with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> > > done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> > > for severe aggression)...

> > > > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> > > hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > > > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

> > > & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> > > every day.

> > > > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> > > can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> > > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> > > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > > > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > > > -Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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[Guest guest]

On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, but you can't say:

- same environmental toxin exposure

- same immune system status during pregnancy

- same level of fungus during pregnancy

- same diet

- same set of adjuncts in the vaccines

I'm not saying that genetics play some sort of role... I just strongly believe

we all too often

fall into the trap of blaming genes (which we can't control at least at this

point) and not

blaming the things that are humanly/environmentally caused.

- Stan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi from Sue,

> > > > > > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> > > > > when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> > > > > Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> > > > > yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> > > > > The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> > > > > with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> > > > > done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> > > > > for severe aggression)...

> > > > > > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> > > > > hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > > > > > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional

agency

> > > > > & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> > > > > every day.

> > > > > > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> > > > > can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> > > > > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> > > > > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > > > > > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > > > > > -Sue

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I guess what I'm saying is that while I believe for some kids, there is a

genetic component to the multidimensional puzzle that contributed to their

autism, it is largely irrelevant because:

- we can't control it (nor do I think we should try), and

- it's too complex (too much time & $ has already been spent and to what avail?)

and that research and treatment $ should be spent focusing on the

human/environmentally caused factors.

We agree, I think!

DR

-------------- Original message ----------------------

> Yes, but you can't say:

>

> - same environmental toxin exposure

> - same immune system status during pregnancy

> - same level of fungus during pregnancy

> - same diet

> - same set of adjuncts in the vaccines

>

> I'm not saying that genetics play some sort of role... I just strongly believe

> we all too often

> fall into the trap of blaming genes (which we can't control at least at this

> point) and not

> blaming the things that are humanly/environmentally caused.

>

> - Stan

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi from Sue,

> > > > > > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> > > > > when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> > > > > Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> > > > > yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> > > > > The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> > > > > with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> > > > > done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> > > > > for severe aggression)...

> > > > > > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> > > > > hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > > > > > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

> > > > > & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> > > > > every day.

> > > > > > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> > > > > can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> > > > > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> > > > > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > > > > > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > > > > > -Sue

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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