Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Elevated CK can be an indicator of rhabdomyolysis. Bob Can you tell me what rhabdomyolysis is? Thank you. Terence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 An elevated CK is evidence of muscle damage. It is used most commonly to diagnose damage to the myocardium (heart attack). Even something as simple as an IM injection can cause a slight increase in your CK. Rhabdomyolysis is when the body has no nutrients left to metabolize for energy, so it starts breaking down muscle mass. This usually leads to renal failure due to the abnormal amount of protein the kidneys need to metabolize. Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Elevated CK Date: 11/14/2002 12:05:17 PM Eastern Standard Time From: moonperro@... Reply-to: lipodystrophy To: lipodystrophy Sent from the Internet (Details) Elevated CK can be an indicator of rhabdomyolysis. Bob Can you tell me what rhabdomyolysis is? Thank you. Terence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick Wow Rick, thanks for this new piece of information I have never seen anywhere. Any reports or just anecdotal? The use of crystal meth is spreading so fast in the community with huge consequences on health, wasting, mood disorders, etc It also seems to me that lipoatrophy seems to occur faster since calories drop and activity levels increase. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 -- you've obviously never worked in a hospital ... ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Elevated CK Date: 11/14/2002 1:33:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: PoWeRTX@... Reply-to: lipodystrophy To: lipodystrophy Sent from the Internet (Details) Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick Wow Rick, thanks for this new piece of information I have never seen anywhere. Any reports or just anecdotal? The use of crystal meth is spreading so fast in the community with huge consequences on health, wasting, mood disorders, etc It also seems to me that lipoatrophy seems to occur faster since calories drop and activity levels increase. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 This article from s Hopkins deals with ecstasy, but the basic premise is the same as with crystal meth. ... The s Hopkins News-Letter - Ecstasy poses a serious health risk even on fir ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Elevated CK Date: 11/14/2002 1:33:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: PoWeRTX@... Reply-to: lipodystrophy To: lipodystrophy Sent from the Internet (Details) Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick Wow Rick, thanks for this new piece of information I have never seen anywhere. Any reports or just anecdotal? The use of crystal meth is spreading so fast in the community with huge consequences on health, wasting, mood disorders, etc It also seems to me that lipoatrophy seems to occur faster since calories drop and activity levels increase. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 This abstract is from Emory University, where I've been on staff for 22 years ... it relates to exercise and rhabdomyolisis. ... Emory Genetics Lab, Myophosphorylase Deficiency (McArdle Disease) ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Elevated CK Date: 11/14/2002 1:33:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: PoWeRTX@... Reply-to: lipodystrophy To: lipodystrophy Sent from the Internet (Details) Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick Wow Rick, thanks for this new piece of information I have never seen anywhere. Any reports or just anecdotal? The use of crystal meth is spreading so fast in the community with huge consequences on health, wasting, mood disorders, etc It also seems to me that lipoatrophy seems to occur faster since calories drop and activity levels increase. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 Exercise in the Heat ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: Elevated CK Date: 11/14/2002 1:33:13 PM Eastern Standard Time From: PoWeRTX@... Reply-to: lipodystrophy To: lipodystrophy Sent from the Internet (Details) Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition. Rick Wow Rick, thanks for this new piece of information I have never seen anywhere. Any reports or just anecdotal? The use of crystal meth is spreading so fast in the community with huge consequences on health, wasting, mood disorders, etc It also seems to me that lipoatrophy seems to occur faster since calories drop and activity levels increase. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 This abstract is from Emory University, where I've been on staff for 22 years ... it relates to exercise and rhabdomyolisis. ... Emory Genetics Lab, Myophosphorylase Deficiency (McArdle Disease) Thanks. I was just wondering about the crystal meth data. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 -- you've obviously never worked in a hospital ... No I have not. You can just say " In my experience working is a hospital, I have seen Rhabdo in guys with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't take in any nutrition" That would be a nice and considerate answer. No need to get reactive and attact for wanting to have a reference. If someone from the list asks anyone where they have got a certain piece of info., it is very OK to say that it is coming from your experience and what you have seen. Anecdotal information is very important as we all have seen in the past few years. Vergel Program for Wellness Restoration, PoWeR www.medibolics.com www.facialwasting.org Click to subscribe to lipodystrophy "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelics. Persistence and determination are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge, 30th President of the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2002 Report Share Posted November 14, 2002 At 12:13 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: >An elevated CK is evidence of muscle damage. It is used most commonly to >diagnose damage to the myocardium (heart attack). Even something as >simple as an IM injection can cause a slight increase in your >CK. Rhabdomyolysis is when the body has no nutrients left to metabolize >for energy, so it starts breaking down muscle mass. This usually leads to >renal failure due to the abnormal amount of protein the kidneys need to >metabolize. Rhabdo is seen in marathon runners and it's also seen in guys >with a low body fat percentage who go on a crystal meth binge and don't >take in any nutrition. It may also be induced by statin drugs. Some are worse than others. The condition may result in the need for dialysis due to kidney failure. The risk may be exacerbated by combining statins with fibrates. See a case report noted in AIDS, 2001 Apr 13;15(6):820-1. Cocaine use--and possibly heroin--may also increase the risk of rhabdo. There are a variety of other kidney ailments which may afflict people. A review article is , DI et al, Sex Transm Infect, 1998 Jun;74(3):179-184. Aside from the high cost of statin drugs, this and other toxicities lead to the notion of other means of cholesterol management, such as the use of niacin, carnitine, hawthorn berry, guggul lipids and so forth, singly or in combination. Clinical evaluation of these alternatives is desperately needed. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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