Newbie

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Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself. I've been doing a little reading so

far and see some

familiar names. I am always on the look out for info regarding Hashi's and

other

autoimmune problems. I have a 10 year old daughter, my youngest child, who has

Hashi's, Type 1 daibetes and Celiac (although not verified by biopsy because I

refuse to

cooperate and put her back on gluten in order to have this test performed). I

am aware of

other methods of testing, but haven't felt the need to go with that direction as

of yet. I do

think that the Celiac symptoms preceeded everything else by several years. We

just didn't

know it at the time.

She was diagnosed with T1 right before her 6th birthday and we found out about

the

Hashi's not too long after that, although accidently. Her endo had just

mentioned that her

thyroid was a little enlarged and that they would keep an eye on it. After

several visits of

hearing this comment, I did a little research and started keeping an eye on her

tests and

figured out that she had a major problem. Her doctor's plan was to just sit

tight and wait

until her thyroid was destroyed and then put her on meds. That plan didn't sit

too well

with me, especially when I started reading about links to Hashi's from Celiac

and how diet

can influence the problem. I came across links to T1 diabetes and Celiac also,

and started

investigating diet related info even more. My daughter's TPO antibodies were

very high,

over 5000 at several points. I had read info relating soy and soybean products

being

detrimental to Hashi's folks, so I asked her endo about removing any soy items

from her

diet. We've never eaten soy products per se, but she did consume products with

soybean

oil in them, since probably over 80% of processed items contain it. He

pooh-poohed the

idea and told me it would have no affect whatsoever on her antibodies. I was

very

intrigued anyway and proceeded to remove a lot of these items from her diet. At

her next

appointment (she has to see the endo every 3 months), her TPO dropped by almost

half.

Her doctor was a little surprised when I mentioned what we had done.

I was very intrigued then, did more research and decided to try a gluten free

diet for her.

At the next appointment, she had started GF just a few days prior and her blood

sugars

had shown great improvement and her unexplained stomach aches had stopped. Her

blood sugars prior had been very erratic with no explanation as to why, no food,

illness,

etc. This time her doctor really thought I was nuts and told me that there was

no way he

ever would put a child on a GF diet without being Celiac, that it was just too

restrictive.

My daughter was already basically on a whole foods diet, so going gluten free

for her

really wasn't that big of a deal. To make a long story shorter, we did GF for

about a year,

then found a nutritionist who also suggested putting her on a casein free diet

in addition,

so she is now GFCFSF (soy free) and also low carb. She was on Armour for a very

short

time (about 2 months) a couple of years ago, but it caused her to go hyper very

quickly.

After about a year on the new diet, her TPO was negative and her thyroid levels

good.

I am very interested in systemic enzymes, their use in autoimmune and gut

problems. I've

read some really interesting info regarding Type 1 diabetes and enzymatic

therapy.

I am also hypothyroid, have never tested positive for antibodies. My mom had

thyroid

problems also and had hers removed when she was about 20. I take Armour

(currently at

150 mgs.) and also have adrenal problems, take HC (currently at 10mgs, trying to

wean

totally off) and have some anemia issues due to having adenomyosis a couple of

years

ago. Cured myself of that also, but that's a whole other tangent. :-) I take

some other

supplements, Vit D3, Vit C, a whole food multi, selenium, Iodoral (1 tab), EPO,

HCI,

probiotics, magnesium, spirulina, a greens formula, undenatured whey, and also

systemic

enzymes (Neprinol) in between meals. I eat a low carb diet GFSF, usually the

only dairy I

eat is raw goat's milk kefir. I was diagnosed with leaky gut about a year ago

and was on a

rotation diet. I'm feeling pretty good lately. The only problem I seem to have

is trying to

wean off the darn cortisol. I've made 3 attempts in the past year and half and

manage to

get to 7.5 mgs and then symptoms start to creep back in. I recently added in a

new

greens formula (Nanogreens) and added a little more fat (coconut oil and

macadamia nuts)

up from about 50%, into my diet. I do notice that the fat seems to help when I

start having

adrenal symptoms. I remember reading some info (from Peat I think) that higher

fats

(good fats) are essential for healing the adrenals. A member on the adrenal

forum I'm on

also suggested adding in ACV which I tried earlier this week and it did seem to

perk me up

a bit. I used to work out with a trainer 3- 4 times per week and let her talk

me into a very

low fat diet, which I'm convinced was responsible for my adrenal crash. I just

recently

started using a treadmill desk, which my hubby built for me. I really like it,

I can walk at a

slow pace anytime I'm on the computer, which can be a lot for me between the

volunteer

work I do and the time I spend on groups and researching info. It has had a

good effect

so far, I've lost 2.5 pounds and have not felt worn out at all, quite the

opposite, pretty

energized.

Linn

[Guest guest]

Hi Linn,

Glad you joined. This is a great list with several very knowledgeable

people here.

Sorry to hear your daughter is having to deal with such health issues

at her age. Thank goodness she has a mother who doesn't just accept

what the doc says without doing her own research. That is amazing

that you were able to significantly reduce her antibodies with GFCFSF.

I wish I had the self discipline to control my own diet like that, but

I like to eat out and it's hard to tell what's in everything one eats

at a restaurant.

Your comment about weaning off cortisol was timely for me. My recent

adrenal saliva test was really bad and my doc wants me to start taking

it. But I hear people like you who have difficulty weaning off and it

scares me, so I'm afraid to try it.

Did you ever have problems tolerating the Armour and is that why you

started on the hc?

Right before bringing the doc my results, I had started on two herb

teas recommended by Susun Weed in her menopause book and within a

couple days was feeling significantly better. The teas are oatstraw

and nettle. Both have a normalizing effect on hormones and the nettle

nourishes the adrenals. I wonder if those would be helpful for you

to help wean off the hc?

>

> Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself. I've been doing a little

reading so far and see some

> familiar names. I am always on the look out for info regarding

Hashi's and other

> autoimmune problems. I have a 10 year old daughter, my youngest

child, who has

> Hashi's, Type 1 daibetes and Celiac (although not verified by biopsy

because I refuse to

> cooperate and put her back on gluten in order to have this test

performed). I am aware of

> other methods of testing, but haven't felt the need to go with that

direction as of yet. I do

> think that the Celiac symptoms preceeded everything else by several

years. We just didn't

> know it at the time.

>

> She was diagnosed with T1 right before her 6th birthday and we found

out about the

> Hashi's not too long after that, although accidently. Her endo had

just mentioned that her

> thyroid was a little enlarged and that they would keep an eye on it.

After several visits of

> hearing this comment, I did a little research and started keeping an

eye on her tests and

> figured out that she had a major problem. Her doctor's plan was to

just sit tight and wait

> until her thyroid was destroyed and then put her on meds. That plan

didn't sit too well

> with me, especially when I started reading about links to Hashi's

from Celiac and how diet

> can influence the problem. I came across links to T1 diabetes and

Celiac also, and started

> investigating diet related info even more. My daughter's TPO

antibodies were very high,

> over 5000 at several points. I had read info relating soy and

soybean products being

> detrimental to Hashi's folks, so I asked her endo about removing any

soy items from her

> diet. We've never eaten soy products per se, but she did consume

products with soybean

> oil in them, since probably over 80% of processed items contain it.

He pooh-poohed the

> idea and told me it would have no affect whatsoever on her

antibodies. I was very

> intrigued anyway and proceeded to remove a lot of these items from

her diet. At her next

> appointment (she has to see the endo every 3 months), her TPO

dropped by almost half.

> Her doctor was a little surprised when I mentioned what we had done.

>

> I was very intrigued then, did more research and decided to try a

gluten free diet for her.

> At the next appointment, she had started GF just a few days prior

and her blood sugars

> had shown great improvement and her unexplained stomach aches had

stopped. Her

> blood sugars prior had been very erratic with no explanation as to

why, no food, illness,

> etc. This time her doctor really thought I was nuts and told me

that there was no way he

> ever would put a child on a GF diet without being Celiac, that it

was just too restrictive.

> My daughter was already basically on a whole foods diet, so going

gluten free for her

> really wasn't that big of a deal. To make a long story shorter, we

did GF for about a year,

> then found a nutritionist who also suggested putting her on a casein

free diet in addition,

> so she is now GFCFSF (soy free) and also low carb. She was on

Armour for a very short

> time (about 2 months) a couple of years ago, but it caused her to go

hyper very quickly.

> After about a year on the new diet, her TPO was negative and her

thyroid levels good.

>

> I am very interested in systemic enzymes, their use in autoimmune

and gut problems. I've

> read some really interesting info regarding Type 1 diabetes and

enzymatic therapy.

>

> I am also hypothyroid, have never tested positive for antibodies.

My mom had thyroid

> problems also and had hers removed when she was about 20. I take

Armour (currently at

> 150 mgs.) and also have adrenal problems, take HC (currently at

10mgs, trying to wean

> totally off) and have some anemia issues due to having adenomyosis a

couple of years

> ago. Cured myself of that also, but that's a whole other tangent.

:-) I take some other

> supplements, Vit D3, Vit C, a whole food multi, selenium, Iodoral (1

tab), EPO, HCI,

> probiotics, magnesium, spirulina, a greens formula, undenatured

whey, and also systemic

> enzymes (Neprinol) in between meals. I eat a low carb diet GFSF,

usually the only dairy I

> eat is raw goat's milk kefir. I was diagnosed with leaky gut about

a year ago and was on a

> rotation diet. I'm feeling pretty good lately. The only problem I

seem to have is trying to

> wean off the darn cortisol. I've made 3 attempts in the past year

and half and manage to

> get to 7.5 mgs and then symptoms start to creep back in. I recently

added in a new

> greens formula (Nanogreens) and added a little more fat (coconut oil

and macadamia nuts)

> up from about 50%, into my diet. I do notice that the fat seems to

help when I start having

> adrenal symptoms. I remember reading some info (from Peat I think)

that higher fats

> (good fats) are essential for healing the adrenals. A member on the

adrenal forum I'm on

> also suggested adding in ACV which I tried earlier this week and it

did seem to perk me up

> a bit. I used to work out with a trainer 3- 4 times per week and

let her talk me into a very

> low fat diet, which I'm convinced was responsible for my adrenal

crash. I just recently

> started using a treadmill desk, which my hubby built for me. I

really like it, I can walk at a

> slow pace anytime I'm on the computer, which can be a lot for me

between the volunteer

> work I do and the time I spend on groups and researching info. It

has had a good effect

> so far, I've lost 2.5 pounds and have not felt worn out at all,

quite the opposite, pretty

> energized.

>

> Linn

>

[Guest guest]

,

It is tough to not eat out much. We're lucky that we have a couple of small

restaurants

near us that can prepare food just as we ask, so we do occasionally get to eat

out. I love

to cook, so that definitely helps.

Cortisol can be great if you really need it, although I do think it is tough to

wean off of,

especially if you take it for more than several months. I wish that I had tried

some other

things before starting it, but hindsight is always 20/20. :-) At the time, I

was barely

functioning and having a child with several chronic illnesses doesn't allow me

to be in that

position. I've had absorption issues and have been working on that for the last

couple of

years, so I'm hoping that as I heal the gut issues, that the adrenal problem

will resolve

also. I did have problems tolerating Armour. I couldn't take the thyroid meds

that I

needed without the Cortisol. As I'm trying to wean off though, I'm not noticing

problems

handling the Armour which is a good sign.

Thanks for the tips on the teas, I will give those a try. I was also thinking

of giving

ashwagandha a try.

Linn

>

> Hi Linn,

> Glad you joined. This is a great list with several very knowledgeable

> people here.

>

> Sorry to hear your daughter is having to deal with such health issues

> at her age. Thank goodness she has a mother who doesn't just accept

> what the doc says without doing her own research. That is amazing

> that you were able to significantly reduce her antibodies with GFCFSF.

> I wish I had the self discipline to control my own diet like that, but

> I like to eat out and it's hard to tell what's in everything one eats

> at a restaurant.

>

> Your comment about weaning off cortisol was timely for me. My recent

> adrenal saliva test was really bad and my doc wants me to start taking

> it. But I hear people like you who have difficulty weaning off and it

> scares me, so I'm afraid to try it.

>

> Did you ever have problems tolerating the Armour and is that why you

> started on the hc?

>

> Right before bringing the doc my results, I had started on two herb

> teas recommended by Susun Weed in her menopause book and within a

> couple days was feeling significantly better. The teas are oatstraw

> and nettle. Both have a normalizing effect on hormones and the nettle

> nourishes the adrenals. I wonder if those would be helpful for you

> to help wean off the hc?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Linn,

Sorry to hear about the many health problems your daughter faces, she should be so grateful to have such an assertive mom that looks out for her. It is easier, I think, to find these things out at a young age and much easier to control or change a child's diet at a young age. I struggle daily to make sure my daughter is eating right. I know she cheats when she's with friends. Who can blame her for wanting to fit in. It's quite hard to convince her that in the long run it will be damaging.

Is the ACV you mentioned apple cider vinegar? I take that three times a day at least and it not only seems to help my Adrenals but also my digestive system. I have low stomach acid and also take HCI, probiotics, and digestive enzymes. I also have GI (gluten intolerance) and found a product, BioCore DPP IV, I use when we dine out or go to friends just in case I consume gluten. It has saved me lots of gut aches etc.

I learned that staying in my fat burning zone while exercising very much improved my Adrenals. You mentioned you have a trainer and they are known to push you to the limit. If I exercise only to the point of burning fat my Adrenals do fine. But when I push myself and go in the cardio zone, my Adrenals exhaust and I end up burning muscle instead of fat; plus I am exhausted and worthless for days. This still happens even after three years off gluten and a much healthier lifestyle. I also do not eat processed products, soy or dairy.

I will read up on Neprinol. Thanks for mentioning it. I do know that enzymes have truly helped me. I also take 2.5 grains of Armour. I was able to drastically reduce my dose after changing my diet. It's also so interesting that in addition to what you wrote about the TPOabs disappearing after removing gluten for your daughter's diet; others have also said the same. Also there are some people who have had Graves who also became healthy; plus parasite healing has cured others with AIT. I can find no medical studies or gene connection, it just happens. Amazing! I think if you can heal the gut you can be healthy, with or without AIT antibodies – Hashis or Graves.

I also suffer from fatigued Adrenals. I started Cortef about five years ago for low cortisol throughout the day and high at midnight; then was able to gradually go off it after changing my lifestyle. I went back on it last winter as my ASI (Adrenal Stress Index) saliva test showed I was low in the morning only, so I only take it in the morning or during very stressful times. I have decreased it and will continue until I'm off again. Currently, I take 2.5 mg every morning, which I decreased to that on July 1st. I had decreased to 5 mg in on April 1st. I may be able to be off of it completely if all goes as planned in October. I do it very gradually. If my morning cortisol dumps again, I think I'll try an Adrenal glandular instead.

I have heard of so many people, mostly women, who are unable to go off the HC. With all your perseverance I am sure you'll find a way. For me very –very- gradual reductions work. I will go down to 5 times a week in August, then 3 in September and 1 in October until I know I don't need it. And hoping nothing will come up to interfere with that plan.

I just read some interesting articles on women and how their AI system differs from mens. I will post later after I locate it.

Welcome to the group.

Bj

>> Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself. I've been doing a little reading so far and see some > familiar names. I am always on the look out for info regarding Hashi's and other > autoimmune problems. I have a 10 year old daughter, my youngest child, who has > Hashi's, Type 1 daibetes and Celiac (although not verified by biopsy because I refuse to > cooperate and put her back on gluten in order to have this test performed). I am aware of > other methods of testing, but haven't felt the need to go with that direction as of yet. I do > think that the Celiac symptoms preceeded everything else by several years. We just didn't > know it at the time. > > She was diagnosed with T1 right before her 6th birthday and we found out about the > Hashi's not too long after that, although accidently. Her endo had just mentioned that her > thyroid was a little enlarged and that they would keep an eye on it. After several visits of > hearing this comment, I did a little research and started keeping an eye on her tests and > figured out that she had a major problem. Her doctor's plan was to just sit tight and wait > until her thyroid was destroyed and then put her on meds. That plan didn't sit too well > with me, especially when I started reading about links to Hashi's from Celiac and how diet > can influence the problem. I came across links to T1 diabetes and Celiac also, and started > investigating diet related info even more. My daughter's TPO antibodies were very high, > over 5000 at several points. I had read info relating soy and soybean products being > detrimental to Hashi's folks, so I asked her endo about removing any soy items from her > diet. We've never eaten soy products per se, but she did consume products with soybean > oil in them, since probably over 80% of processed items contain it. He pooh-poohed the > idea and told me it would have no affect whatsoever on her antibodies. I was very > intrigued anyway and proceeded to remove a lot of these items from her diet. At her next > appointment (she has to see the endo every 3 months), her TPO dropped by almost half. > Her doctor was a little surprised when I mentioned what we had done.> > I was very intrigued then, did more research and decided to try a gluten free diet for her. > At the next appointment, she had started GF just a few days prior and her blood sugars > had shown great improvement and her unexplained stomach aches had stopped. Her > blood sugars prior had been very erratic with no explanation as to why, no food, illness, > etc. This time her doctor really thought I was nuts and told me that there was no way he > ever would put a child on a GF diet without being Celiac, that it was just too restrictive. > My daughter was already basically on a whole foods diet, so going gluten free for her > really wasn't that big of a deal. To make a long story shorter, we did GF for about a year, > then found a nutritionist who also suggested putting her on a casein free diet in addition, > so she is now GFCFSF (soy free) and also low carb. She was on Armour for a very short > time (about 2 months) a couple of years ago, but it caused her to go hyper very quickly. > After about a year on the new diet, her TPO was negative and her thyroid levels good. > > I am very interested in systemic enzymes, their use in autoimmune and gut problems. I've > read some really interesting info regarding Type 1 diabetes and enzymatic therapy. > > I am also hypothyroid, have never tested positive for antibodies. My mom had thyroid > problems also and had hers removed when she was about 20. I take Armour (currently at > 150 mgs.) and also have adrenal problems, take HC (currently at 10mgs, trying to wean > totally off) and have some anemia issues due to having adenomyosis a couple of years > ago. Cured myself of that also, but that's a whole other tangent. :-) I take some other > supplements, Vit D3, Vit C, a whole food multi, selenium, Iodoral (1 tab), EPO, HCI, > probiotics, magnesium, spirulina, a greens formula, undenatured whey, and also systemic > enzymes (Neprinol) in between meals. I eat a low carb diet GFSF, usually the only dairy I > eat is raw goat's milk kefir. I was diagnosed with leaky gut about a year ago and was on a > rotation diet. I'm feeling pretty good lately. The only problem I seem to have is trying to > wean off the darn cortisol. I've made 3 attempts in the past year and half and manage to > get to 7.5 mgs and then symptoms start to creep back in. I recently added in a new > greens formula (Nanogreens) and added a little more fat (coconut oil and macadamia nuts) > up from about 50%, into my diet. I do notice that the fat seems to help when I start having > adrenal symptoms. I remember reading some info (from Peat I think) that higher fats > (good fats) are essential for healing the adrenals. A member on the adrenal forum I'm on > also suggested adding in ACV which I tried earlier this week and it did seem to perk me up > a bit. I used to work out with a trainer 3- 4 times per week and let her talk me into a very > low fat diet, which I'm convinced was responsible for my adrenal crash. I just recently > started using a treadmill desk, which my hubby built for me. I really like it, I can walk at a > slow pace anytime I'm on the computer, which can be a lot for me between the volunteer > work I do and the time I spend on groups and researching info. It has had a good effect > so far, I've lost 2.5 pounds and have not felt worn out at all, quite the opposite, pretty > energized. > > Linn>

[Guest guest]

,

WOW! I was reading about nettle tea just a week or so ago. I plan to

try it and the oatstraw as well. How often do you drink them?

Thanks for the reminder.

I never knew about my tired Adrenals until years after taking Armour,

so Armour wasn't a factor for me in taking Cortef. I wan't able to

desrease my Armour until I eliminated gluten.

I notice that many who self their Adrenals outside of competent help

have problems. Since my doc is very involved maybe that's why I

haven't had any trouble. I've meant lots of other people with the

same story.

If you have a good dr to guide you you may not experience problems.

I realize a good and willing to treat the Adrenals dr is rare.

Good luck in whatever you decide,

Bj

> >

> > Hi all, just wanted to introduce myself. I've been doing a little

> reading so far and see some

> > familiar names. I am always on the look out for info regarding

> Hashi's and other

> > autoimmune problems. I have a 10 year old daughter, my youngest

> child, who has

> > Hashi's, Type 1 daibetes and Celiac (although not verified by

biopsy

> because I refuse to

> > cooperate and put her back on gluten in order to have this test

> performed). I am aware of

> > other methods of testing, but haven't felt the need to go with

that

> direction as of yet. I do

> > think that the Celiac symptoms preceeded everything else by

several

> years. We just didn't

> > know it at the time.

> >

> > She was diagnosed with T1 right before her 6th birthday and we

found

> out about the

> > Hashi's not too long after that, although accidently. Her endo

had

> just mentioned that her

> > thyroid was a little enlarged and that they would keep an eye on

it.

> After several visits of

> > hearing this comment, I did a little research and started keeping

an

> eye on her tests and

> > figured out that she had a major problem. Her doctor's plan was

to

> just sit tight and wait

> > until her thyroid was destroyed and then put her on meds. That

plan

> didn't sit too well

> > with me, especially when I started reading about links to Hashi's

> from Celiac and how diet

> > can influence the problem. I came across links to T1 diabetes and

> Celiac also, and started

> > investigating diet related info even more. My daughter's TPO

> antibodies were very high,

> > over 5000 at several points. I had read info relating soy and

> soybean products being

> > detrimental to Hashi's folks, so I asked her endo about removing

any

> soy items from her

> > diet. We've never eaten soy products per se, but she did consume

> products with soybean

> > oil in them, since probably over 80% of processed items contain

it.

> He pooh-poohed the

> > idea and told me it would have no affect whatsoever on her

> antibodies. I was very

> > intrigued anyway and proceeded to remove a lot of these items from

> her diet. At her next

> > appointment (she has to see the endo every 3 months), her TPO

> dropped by almost half.

> > Her doctor was a little surprised when I mentioned what we had

done.

> >

> > I was very intrigued then, did more research and decided to try a

> gluten free diet for her.

> > At the next appointment, she had started GF just a few days prior

> and her blood sugars

> > had shown great improvement and her unexplained stomach aches had

> stopped. Her

> > blood sugars prior had been very erratic with no explanation as to

> why, no food, illness,

> > etc. This time her doctor really thought I was nuts and told me

> that there was no way he

> > ever would put a child on a GF diet without being Celiac, that it

> was just too restrictive.

> > My daughter was already basically on a whole foods diet, so going

> gluten free for her

> > really wasn't that big of a deal. To make a long story shorter,

we

> did GF for about a year,

> > then found a nutritionist who also suggested putting her on a

casein

> free diet in addition,

> > so she is now GFCFSF (soy free) and also low carb. She was on

> Armour for a very short

> > time (about 2 months) a couple of years ago, but it caused her to

go

> hyper very quickly.

> > After about a year on the new diet, her TPO was negative and her

> thyroid levels good.

> >

> > I am very interested in systemic enzymes, their use in autoimmune

> and gut problems. I've

> > read some really interesting info regarding Type 1 diabetes and

> enzymatic therapy.

> >

> > I am also hypothyroid, have never tested positive for antibodies.

> My mom had thyroid

> > problems also and had hers removed when she was about 20. I take

> Armour (currently at

> > 150 mgs.) and also have adrenal problems, take HC (currently at

> 10mgs, trying to wean

> > totally off) and have some anemia issues due to having

adenomyosis a

> couple of years

> > ago. Cured myself of that also, but that's a whole other

tangent.

> :-) I take some other

> > supplements, Vit D3, Vit C, a whole food multi, selenium, Iodoral

(1

> tab), EPO, HCI,

> > probiotics, magnesium, spirulina, a greens formula, undenatured

> whey, and also systemic

> > enzymes (Neprinol) in between meals. I eat a low carb diet GFSF,

> usually the only dairy I

> > eat is raw goat's milk kefir. I was diagnosed with leaky gut

about

> a year ago and was on a

> > rotation diet. I'm feeling pretty good lately. The only problem

I

> seem to have is trying to

> > wean off the darn cortisol. I've made 3 attempts in the past year

> and half and manage to

> > get to 7.5 mgs and then symptoms start to creep back in. I

recently

> added in a new

> > greens formula (Nanogreens) and added a little more fat (coconut

oil

> and macadamia nuts)

> > up from about 50%, into my diet. I do notice that the fat seems

to

> help when I start having

> > adrenal symptoms. I remember reading some info (from Peat I

think)

> that higher fats

> > (good fats) are essential for healing the adrenals. A member on

the

> adrenal forum I'm on

> > also suggested adding in ACV which I tried earlier this week and

it

> did seem to perk me up

> > a bit. I used to work out with a trainer 3- 4 times per week and

> let her talk me into a very

> > low fat diet, which I'm convinced was responsible for my adrenal

> crash. I just recently

> > started using a treadmill desk, which my hubby built for me. I

> really like it, I can walk at a

> > slow pace anytime I'm on the computer, which can be a lot for me

> between the volunteer

> > work I do and the time I spend on groups and researching info. It

> has had a good effect

> > so far, I've lost 2.5 pounds and have not felt worn out at all,

> quite the opposite, pretty

> > energized.

> >

> > Linn

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi BJ,

I make about 1 1/2 qt of each at a time. I make an infusion--45 g to

1 1/2 qts water. Bring water to boil, stir in herb, cover, let sit

for 8 hours. It's easy to do this at night then it's ready in the

morning. I strain it then hand squeeze the remaining herb to get all

the liquid out. Then refrigerate.

I drink 1 c. of each in the a.m., same p.m.

So far so good. I seem to have more steady energy and no heart

pounding, which has been the bane of my recent existence.

But I'm being cautiously optimistic. If this continues for several

weeks, I'll know it's helping with my problem.

I do know when I tried this over a year ago for meno symptoms I was

amazed at how much better I felt. I don't know why I quit. I guess

because I was feeling good, got lazy and didn't want to make the teas

anymore. Then I gradually started not feeling well and forgot that

they had made a difference.

>

> ,

>

> WOW! I was reading about nettle tea just a week or so ago. I plan to

> try it and the oatstraw as well. How often do you drink them?

> Thanks for the reminder.

>

> I never knew about my tired Adrenals until years after taking Armour,

> so Armour wasn't a factor for me in taking Cortef. I wan't able to

> desrease my Armour until I eliminated gluten.

>

> I notice that many who self their Adrenals outside of competent help

> have problems. Since my doc is very involved maybe that's why I

> haven't had any trouble. I've meant lots of other people with the

> same story.

>

> If you have a good dr to guide you you may not experience problems.

> I realize a good and willing to treat the Adrenals dr is rare.

>

> Good luck in whatever you decide,

> Bj

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

BJ,

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, the ACV was apple cider vinegar. I'm only taking

it once a

day, will try and increase it and see what happens.

I recently started using a treadmill desk. I had read about it online and had

my hubby make

one for me. Basically it's a shelf that fits on my treadmill. I walk at a slow

pace between .5

and .8 mph while I'm on the computer. I do a lot of volunteer work so between

that and

yahoo groups, I can spend a lot of time on the computer. I've been able to lose

3 1/2 pounds

in the last couple of weeks with no adrenal symptoms at all. I'm very pleased.

If I try to do a

hard work out, I can manage it, but then I usually feel worn out the next day.

This is really

energizing me. I just love it.

Our nutritionist has been a big help with the info relating to AI diseases.

I hadn't thought about dropping days while weaning off. I may give that a try.

Thanks!

The nutritionist has some drops that I may try also that I know the WAP

recommends for

weaning off cortisol meds.

Linn

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for the instructions. This is just what I was looking for. You sound like me when it comes to iron. I get it in balance and then stop taking it then the next thing I know it is low again. I should know better as I have a family history of low iron anemia.

I'll let you know how it goes. I haven't been going out much because of the cost of gas. We overspent on fireworks and parties, plus had lots of out-of-town guests over the 4th. I love to see them, but also am glad they went home lat night.

Originally, I was going to try the nettle tea for anemia and blood circulation as my ankles seem to retain water as the day goes on. This is the only link I could find that I kept.

http://www.herbsorganic.co.za/pages/working%20on/Nettle/Nettle%20info.htm

Bj

> >> > ,> > > > WOW! I was reading about nettle tea just a week or so ago. I plan to > > try it and the oatstraw as well. How often do you drink them? > > Thanks for the reminder.> > > > I never knew about my tired Adrenals until years after taking Armour, > > so Armour wasn't a factor for me in taking Cortef. I wan't able to > > desrease my Armour until I eliminated gluten. > > > > I notice that many who self their Adrenals outside of competent help > > have problems. Since my doc is very involved maybe that's why I > > haven't had any trouble. I've meant lots of other people with the > > same story. > > > > If you have a good dr to guide you you may not experience problems. > > I realize a good and willing to treat the Adrenals dr is rare. > > > > Good luck in whatever you decide,> > Bj > > > > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

BJ,

That was a great informative link about nettle. I was disappointed to

see there was no info on the oatstraw.

Yes, I'm also the same way with my iron. My ferritin is low and I

should be taking it every day, but I start feeling better, so then the

incentive is gone to make myself remember to take it, then I'm back to

feeling crappy again and wondering why :-/

>

>

> ,

>

> Thanks for the instructions. This is just what I was looking for. You

> sound like me when it comes to iron. I get it in balance and then stop

> taking it then the next thing I know it is low again. I should know

> better as I have a family history of low iron anemia.

>

> I'll let you know how it goes. I haven't been going out much because of

> the cost of gas. We overspent on fireworks and parties, plus had lots

> of out-of-town guests over the 4th. I love to see them, but also am

> glad they went home lat night.

>

> Originally, I was going to try the nettle tea for anemia and blood

> circulation as my ankles seem to retain water as the day goes on. This

> is the only link I could find that I kept.

>

>

http://www.herbsorganic.co.za/pages/working%20on/Nettle/Nettle%20info.ht\

> m

>

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> tm>

>

> Bj

>

>

>

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