Re: estrogen binds with thyroxine, lowering metabolic rate

[Guest guest]

Have you seen anything about birth control pills (estrogen) and

there impact on the thyroid? It seems to be a suspiciously quiet

subject. I've only seem some vague references that birth control

pills don't interfere with thyroid medication.

A site that I like to pass on is here:

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/Basics/chemlist.htm

It's not just the foods we are consuming (well, you...I'm a

vegan!)...but the chemicals we injest that disrupt estrogen levels

and the thyroid.

This site also has some excellant articles on other chemicals that

impact the thyroid. The scariests (sp?)is flame retardants. Flame

retardants are used in our clothes, carpet, drapery - pretty much

everywhere.

Vancouver

> Someone in my other group passed this info along. Here's an

article that talks about estrogen which has been added to animals.

We, in turn, eat them, and it affects us. We buy all our meat from a

health food store which guarantees all of the meat they sell is

hormone and anti-biotic free. they are grain fed also.

>

> I have posted the link to this article. there are a lot of other

> really great articles there. sheila

>

> http://www.keephope.net/v2002.html

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, estrogen does interfere with thyroid hormone dispersion and absorption, which is mainly what most BC pills have in them. So many docs just haven't researched this. One of my daughters, who also has Hashi's and is hypo, cannot take them. They depress the heck out of her, after being on them for a couple of weeks. Anybody want to guess what was going on there?

Tx

Re: Re: "estrogen binds with thyroxine, lowering metabolic rate"

Hmm, my understanding is that birth control pills DO interefere with thyroid functioning and the thyroid hormones we take. My OB/GYN denied this, however. She wanted to me to take a low dose of the pill to straighten up my menstrual cycles. I took it for one day and had a reaction so stopped.

It is interesting this is a quiet subject. I know I've got something on this, but I'll have to look for it later...need to run out. Looking forward to checking out that site you posted.

hugs, sh eila

[Guest guest]

SIGH. When I was seeing the endo, she got furious when the

rheumatologist took me OFF birth control pills to see if I was

perimenopausal (I wasn't), and she said if I were perimenopausal,

they would just put me back on basically the same thing anyway. She

never mentioned a problem with the BC pills and the Synthroid.

As far as the flame retardants, since I was badly burned when I was 2

1/2 while wearing a flannel nightgown (before the days of flame

retardants), just because the nightgown got too hot because of a

heater I stood next to and burst into flames spontaneously, I have to

say I'm still in favor of those.

Jo

> Yes, estrogen does interfere with thyroid hormone dispersion and

absorption, which is mainly what most BC pills have in them. So many

docs just haven't researched this. One of my daughters, who also has

Hashi's and is hypo, cannot take them. They depress the heck out of

her, after being on them for a couple of weeks. Anybody want to

guess what was going on there?

>

>

> Tx

>

> Re: Re: " estrogen binds with thyroxine,

lowering metabolic rate "

>

>

> Hmm, my understanding is that birth control pills DO interefere

with thyroid functioning and the thyroid hormones we take. My OB/GYN

denied this, however. She wanted to me to take a low dose of the pill

to straighten up my menstrual cycles. I took it for one day and had a

reaction so stopped.

>

> It is interesting this is a quiet subject. I know I've got

something on this, but I'll have to look for it later...need to run

out. Looking forward to checking out that site you posted.

> hugs, sh eila

[Guest guest]

Well, I do know how fearful I was of becoming pregnant after having 4 babies

rather close together, so it is a catch-22 situation, I know. Nothing BUT

the BC pills ever worked on me at all. I opted for a tubal after my 4th

child because I had been on the pill for around 10 yrs, inbetween

pregnancies. I always felt fine on them, but had no thyroid problems, to my

knowledge, until 5 or 6 yrs later. I will never know whether they had

anything to do with the thyroid or not. I was 28 when I had the tubal,

started into what I call a hyperthyroid phase at around 36 or so, then it

was discovered in the hypo phase at 42. I am 52 now.

Tx

Re: " estrogen binds with thyroxine, lowering

metabolic rate "

> SIGH. When I was seeing the endo, she got furious when the

> rheumatologist took me OFF birth control pills to see if I was

> perimenopausal (I wasn't), and she said if I were perimenopausal,

> they would just put me back on basically the same thing anyway. She

> never mentioned a problem with the BC pills and the Synthroid.

>

> As far as the flame retardants, since I was badly burned when I was 2

> 1/2 while wearing a flannel nightgown (before the days of flame

> retardants), just because the nightgown got too hot because of a

> heater I stood next to and burst into flames spontaneously, I have to

> say I'm still in favor of those.

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

I've been thinking a lot about whether I might have had a

hyperthyroid period as well. Shortly after I turned 30, I started

having very bad heart palpitations and lost some weight. They

discovered one of my mitral valves was prolapsed and that I had

regurgitation (a murmur). They blamed the palpitations on that, and

since I didn't want to go on the Inderal the cardiologist offered, we

didn't really treat it, other than to have an echocardiogram every

year for several years. The last time I saw the cardiologist, he

said since my symptoms weren't as severe and nothing seemed to be

getting any worse, he didn't need to see me every year anymore. My

palpitations really decreased between 35 and 40, and since I became

hypothyroid at 40, they almost never occur. So, I suppose I could

have been hyperthyroid during that period and no one caught it.

My sister has recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism, too. I

can't remember exactly what her TSH was, but it was in the 40 range.

Someone told her or she read somewhere that when your TSH is that

high, it is most likely NOT Hashi's; however, I think I saw yours was

nearly that high and you do have Hashi's, right? They have not

tested her for antibodies, and I have encouraged her to ask them to

do that since I do have Hashi's. Her last TSH was .5, and her

endocrinologist (the one I used to see) decreased her Synthroid even

though she is still extremely tired, her blood pressure is almost non-

existent, etc. Other than this possible similarity, she and I are

nothing alike physically!

I guess at this point I am not going to worry about the birth control

pills, as I can only argue with them about so much at a time, I

think. I guess I will just have to wait and see what my latest tests

show and how they respond!

Jo

> Well, I do know how fearful I was of becoming pregnant after having

4 babies

> rather close together, so it is a catch-22 situation, I know.

Nothing BUT

> the BC pills ever worked on me at all. I opted for a tubal after

my 4th

> child because I had been on the pill for around 10 yrs, inbetween

> pregnancies. I always felt fine on them, but had no thyroid

problems, to my

> knowledge, until 5 or 6 yrs later. I will never know whether they

had

> anything to do with the thyroid or not. I was 28 when I had the

tubal,

> started into what I call a hyperthyroid phase at around 36 or so,

then it

> was discovered in the hypo phase at 42. I am 52 now.

>

>

> Tx

>

> Re: " estrogen binds with thyroxine, lowering

> metabolic rate "

>

>

> > SIGH. When I was seeing the endo, she got furious when the

> > rheumatologist took me OFF birth control pills to see if I was

> > perimenopausal (I wasn't), and she said if I were perimenopausal,

> > they would just put me back on basically the same thing anyway.

She

> > never mentioned a problem with the BC pills and the Synthroid.

> >

> > As far as the flame retardants, since I was badly burned when I

was 2

> > 1/2 while wearing a flannel nightgown (before the days of flame

> > retardants), just because the nightgown got too hot because of a

> > heater I stood next to and burst into flames spontaneously, I

have to

> > say I'm still in favor of those.

> >

> > Jo

[Guest guest]

I've been doing alot of research on tubal ligations have found many

articles that having these done, can throw you into early

menopause. There are even class action lawsuits (I'm not in any)

going on because the doctors never told us this could happen. They

say that the blood flow can be interrupted to the ovaries which then

will kill it off.

They're also finding out that women are starting menopause at a much

earlier age now because of all the phyto-estrogens out there.

I think alot of my feeling better could have something to do with my

using the progesterone cream. It could be helping the Armour do

it's job, to some extent.

Debbie

> Well, I do know how fearful I was of becoming pregnant after

having 4 babies

> rather close together, so it is a catch-22 situation, I know.

Nothing BUT

> the BC pills ever worked on me at all. I opted for a tubal after

my 4th

> child because I had been on the pill for around 10 yrs, inbetween

> pregnancies. I always felt fine on them, but had no thyroid

problems, to my

> knowledge, until 5 or 6 yrs later. I will never know whether they

had

> anything to do with the thyroid or not. I was 28 when I had the

tubal,

> started into what I call a hyperthyroid phase at around 36 or so,

then it

> was discovered in the hypo phase at 42. I am 52 now.

>

>

> Tx

[Guest guest]

Where can I find more on this? I had my tubes tied when I was in my

late 30's and was told I was perimenopausal when I was in early 40's.

> I've been doing alot of research on tubal ligations have found

many

> articles that having these done, can throw you into early

> menopause. There are even class action lawsuits (I'm not in any)

> going on because the doctors never told us this could happen.

They

> say that the blood flow can be interrupted to the ovaries which

then

> will kill it off.

>

> They're also finding out that women are starting menopause at a

much

> earlier age now because of all the phyto-estrogens out there.

>

> I think alot of my feeling better could have something to do with

my

> using the progesterone cream. It could be helping the Armour do

> it's job, to some extent.

>

> Debbie

[Guest guest]

That would be my guess that it does interfere...I wonder why it is

so rarely mentioned in thyroid forums and thyroid information (?).

Especially when the majority of women are on BC meds and thyroid

disease effects mostly women.

The injection birth control is really being pushed here - can't

imagine that huge shot of estrogen can have much good on anyone. And

then, there's the patch.

I've never taken any oral BC meds - so I've usually just ignored

many of the conversations. Maybe I've just missed this relationship.

Vancouver

> Yes, estrogen does interfere with thyroid hormone dispersion and

absorption, which is mainly what most BC pills have in them. So

many docs just haven't researched this. One of my daughters, who

also has Hashi's and is hypo, cannot take them. They depress the

heck out of her, after being on them for a couple of weeks. Anybody

want to guess what was going on there?

>

>

> Tx