Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 I have a 9 and 10 year old. For years they have been extremely allergic to dairy. Their allergies were so bad they couldn't eat birthday cake at a party or treats at school. I read labels looking for everything that remotely resembled a milk product. They couldn't have cookies or crackers if they said " whey " in the ingredient list. One thing off their diet and we could be guaranteed of having very sick kids all night long. In addition, my sons nose constantly dripped. He had a hard time running and keeping up with other kids he had so much drainage running down his throat. Dairy wasn't the only thing they were allergic to. They reacted to msg in all forms including hydrolyzed soy protein, and autolyzed yeast, as well as citrus, peanuts, cashews, wheat, corn, soy, the list goes on...Then of course there were all the environmental allergies as well...I had two very sick kids. About a year ago I stumbled across the book " Nourishing Traditions " by Sally Fallon. She advocates the use of raw milk or cultured milk products only as well as a number of other things (soaking grains overnight in fermented dairy products, fermenting vegies, presoaking and drying nuts, sprouting grains, etc). Suddenly it clicked... We realized they weren't allergic to dairy, they were allergic to pasteurized homogenized dairy. If the dairy was raw or fermented as in kefir they could have it. At first to just drink the dairy was too much for them. I started by soaking my grains for pancakes and waffles in kefir. They had no problems with this. Then we added raw milk cheeses. No problems once again. It's a year later and I have been following the principles of the book " Nourishing Traditions " very closely and to our surprise our kids allergies have suddenly disappeared. They can now spend the night at a friends house and eat what they serve for dinner and not get sick. They can have treats at school and not get sick. We still are very careful what we fix at home but they are getting healthier and healthier all the time. They have been tested several times during this year process and each time they get more foods added to their diets and each time the reaction to those they are allergic to gets less and less. You may want to start as we did...just one step at a time. As you add more good bugs to their system you too may find that new foods become available to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 I just sent an e-mail thinking it came from a milk website, not the native nutrition one so you are already using the book. I'm actively looking for raw milk so I've joined several other message boards in search of it. Sorry for the confusion. Since you're using the book, start slowly as we did...try out the pancake recipe for starters, soaking your grains in the kefir. And use the raw milk cheese. Then start making saurkraut. That's a great one for getting lots of good bugs in your kids systems. Start with one or two tablespoons at a time. Pretty soon they will be coming home and requesting a bowl after school! Milk may not be where you start, there may be other foods that work best for you in the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 brenda, what other boards are you on that may lead you to raw milk.....(especially organic) i am searching too. *choose the road less travelled* amanda cop wife & mimmy2angels jack 01/20/98 obhosp daphne 12/02/00 uc homeRebirth ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 Thanks a bunch for your advice. It makes sense and I'll try it out. Also please let me in on the raw milk too. I can get it here but it is expensive at the store. If I lived near the Claravale farm in Northern California I could get it for about $1.59 a quart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 One board I joined is Kefir_making . It's a very active board with lots of daily messages. I have been hoping that with all the people out there making kefir, some of them have got to be using raw milk. So far, no luck in my area. I have found two places that are community farms that sell the milk. They sell it at about $5 / gallon. But they have very long waiting lists, to the point of not taking any more names. I'm been checking out e-mail and phone listings of organic farmers in our state , local processing plants in search of their suppliers, calling food co-ops, contacting butchers, and putting notes up on health food stores and feed supply stores bulletin boards. I will start checking the farmer's markets this spring to see if anyone there has a dairy cow or two and extra milk. So far I haven't had any luck in Oregon. Eventually, with enough phone calls, just through the law of numbers, eventually those no's will lead to a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 If you can get it, at whatever price, thank them profusely every time you pick up your milk! I would love to just find a source!!! My husband isn't real excited about moving to a farm! I talked with another friend that had similar experiences to your boys regarding the milk. She took the raw milk and started fermenting/clabbering it. Once she started that, she didn't have any problems with it. You could try kefir, fil mjolk, and viili all of which are available from GEM cultures under the sources section of the book. She said she had the best luck with the room temperature cultures rather than the yogurt, and buttermilk (available at www.cheesemaking.com) as you have to heat the milk first. I suppose by heating it you're killing some of the enzymes that your body would need. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 Also, I've heard that a teaspoon of raw honey mixed in with the milk helps with tolerance. Dana In a message dated 2/19/2001 4:35:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, ms4runr@... writes: I notice the raw milk does cause a little gas discomfort. I am planning on learning how to ferment it with keifer. I love buttermilk and maybe it will be similar. I'm only drinking it for the nutrition right now, but I do think it being fermented to a degree would be much better on the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 I notice the raw milk does cause a little gas discomfort. I am planning on learning how to ferment it with keifer. I love buttermilk and maybe it will be similar. I'm only drinking it for the nutrition right now, but I do think it being fermented to a degree would be much better on the system. > If you can get it, at whatever price, thank them profusely every time you > pick up your milk! I would love to just find a source!!! My husband isn't > real excited about moving to a farm! > > I talked with another friend that had similar experiences to your boys > regarding the milk. She took the raw milk and started fermenting/clabbering > it. Once she started that, she didn't have any problems with it. You could > try kefir, fil mjolk, and viili all of which are available from GEM cultures > under the sources section of the book. She said she had the best luck with > the room temperature cultures rather than the yogurt, and buttermilk > (available at www.cheesemaking.com) as you have to heat the milk first. I > suppose by heating it you're killing some of the enzymes that your body would > need. > > Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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