Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

[Guest guest]

hi i'm new here and have just received a diagnosis of thyroiditis

and chronic fatigue syndrome.

i see these articles are very old. this one dates back to 1997 and

was wondering if there are any more current articles ? my doctor

told me that my thyroid has nothing to do with the chronic fatigue

syndrome so that is why i was wondering if you had anything more up

to date regarding this ?

gloria

>

> Relationship Among These Conditions

> September 1997 -- First, let's define the three

diseases briefly and discuss how they're diagnosed.

>

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[Guest guest]

my doctor did not give me any medication for either of these things.

he told me to take some different kinds of vitamins and told me to

come back in 6 weeks to see if i felt better. if not, he said he

will run some more blood tests. i don't know if the tests you are

talking about were run or not. i guess i should call on monday and

ask if he run t3 and t4? he did tell me my tsh was high but i do not

know any numbers. i am trying to learn as much as i can via the

internet but i have to watch my time as i am limited.

gloria

> Those who wrote these articles have not changed their stance on

this

> subject. If anything, they are even more convicted of it. That

is the

> opinion of these writers at this time. Do a search on the

relationship

> between thyroid disease, fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue

syndrome. It

> will bring up all kinds of things, but it will bring up those both

for and

> against it, I'm sure. I tend to agree with these writers and

others like

> them because of all the research, the similarities, including the

statistics

> on how many people who have one, are eventually diagnosed with the

other.

> My opinion, from all that I've read over the last 3 yrs or so, is

that

> people with fibromyalgia and/or chronic fatigue syndrome are

basically

> undiagnosed for thyroid disease. A lot of it depends on whether

you believe

> that the old lab ranges for thyroid disease are correct, or if you

believe

> that only labs for certain things show whether a person has

thyroid disease.

> Many doctors now do not believe in the Free T4, Free T3 testing,

and they

> only go by the TSH values. If you research this, you will find

that there

> are many reasons not to bank on this test completely by itself,

even for

> checkups, or the T3 and T4 Totals testing. To me, according to

the evidence

> that I've been reading over and over, there is every reason to

believe that

> these 3 diseases are a triad, or syndrome, all the same disease.

Also, I

> guess I should make mention of the adrenal system, which is

intimately tied

> to all of this, including the thyroid. I've been posting a lot on

this

> lately also. When I first started reading an article about this

around 2-3

> yrs ago, I couldn't believe it. I was quite dubious also, so I

started

> researching different opinions, etc...And, to me, the proof is

there, over

> and over. No I don't have a medical license. I don't know of

many of us

> who are on these sites who do. We all originally got here because

we feel

> bad and are trying to find out why. Obviously, if we're still

seeking, a

> lot of our doctors haven't been doing us justice. Now, the doctor

isn't a

> miracle healer, but I think that most of us could feel better than

we do, if

> we had someone doctoring us who was willing to listen with an open

mind and

> put away the pride and financial concerns for just a few minutes.

>

>

> Tx

>

>

> Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia,

and

> Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

>

>

> > hi i'm new here and have just received a diagnosis of thyroiditis

> > and chronic fatigue syndrome.

> >

> > i see these articles are very old. this one dates back to 1997

and

> > was wondering if there are any more current articles ? my doctor

> > told me that my thyroid has nothing to do with the chronic

fatigue

> > syndrome so that is why i was wondering if you had anything more

up

> > to date regarding this ?

> >

> > gloria

[Guest guest]

what kind of medications should i ask to be given for hashimotos

thyroiditis and chronic fatigue syndrome if these vitamins do not

make me feel better ?

gloria

> Gloria, if your TSH is high, then there is a problem with your

thyroid,

> specifically. Always, always get a hard copy of your lab

results. Never

> take the statement from the doctor's office that " your labs are

all normal " .

> Get the lab values with the normal lab reference ranges. Listen

and learn

> your disease. I understand that vitamin c, selenium, vitamin e,

and the b

> vitamins can help, and selenium even helps in the conversion of T4

to T3 in

> the body, but they don't take the place of treatment. Has your

doctor not

> suggested you go on thyroid medication? What is your TSH, T3, and

T4? This

> is very important. Is your diagnosis Hashimoto's, or did he even

bother

> running a thyroid antibodies test?

>

>

> Tx

>

>

>

> Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia,

and

> Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

>

>

> > my doctor did not give me any medication for either of these

things.

> > he told me to take some different kinds of vitamins and told me

to

> > come back in 6 weeks to see if i felt better. if not, he said he

> > will run some more blood tests. i don't know if the tests you

are

> > talking about were run or not. i guess i should call on monday

and

> > ask if he run t3 and t4? he did tell me my tsh was high but i do

not

> > know any numbers. i am trying to learn as much as i can via the

> > internet but i have to watch my time as i am limited.

> > gloria

[Guest guest]

Gloria, if you have CFS, you need to be treated by a specialist.

Conventional docs have no clue about it, and most alternative ones

have a best a small clue. At the risk of sounding like a broken

record to the rest of the group, I suggest checking out the Clymer

Healing Research Centers, www.chronicfatigue.org, which claims to be

the premier center for CFS research and treatment in the US, if not

the world. It's non-profit, they work with most of their patients

at a distance, and they are very nice. I can't tell you from

personal experience how well their treatment works, as I have not

yet started it, but they claim they can cure any case. There is no

medication for CFS, but there are glandular supports (supplements),

as well as lifestyle modifications you should make (sleep more,

stress less, etc.).

For the thyroid, the rest of the group will probably recommend

Armour to you. I take only a thyroid glandular recommended by a

previous doctor. This is the difference between taking a

medication, which replaces what your thyroid is no longer making,

and taking glandular substances, which I understand give you some

hormone but without causing your gland to atrophy further, like the

medications do. However, I am hypothyroid without having Hashi's

(probably because of the CFS), and every case is different.

I hope you get to feeling better!

> > Gloria, if your TSH is high, then there is a problem with your

> thyroid,

> > specifically. Always, always get a hard copy of your lab

> results. Never

> > take the statement from the doctor's office that " your labs are

> all normal " .

> > Get the lab values with the normal lab reference ranges. Listen

> and learn

> > your disease. I understand that vitamin c, selenium, vitamin e,

> and the b

> > vitamins can help, and selenium even helps in the conversion of

T4

> to T3 in

> > the body, but they don't take the place of treatment. Has your

> doctor not

> > suggested you go on thyroid medication? What is your TSH, T3,

and

> T4? This

> > is very important. Is your diagnosis Hashimoto's, or did he

even

> bother

> > running a thyroid antibodies test?

> >

> >

> > Tx

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome,

Fibromyalgia,

> and

> > Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

> >

> >

> > > my doctor did not give me any medication for either of these

> things.

> > > he told me to take some different kinds of vitamins and told

me

> to

> > > come back in 6 weeks to see if i felt better. if not, he said

he

> > > will run some more blood tests. i don't know if the tests you

> are

> > > talking about were run or not. i guess i should call on monday

> and

> > > ask if he run t3 and t4? he did tell me my tsh was high but i

do

> not

> > > know any numbers. i am trying to learn as much as i can via the

> > > internet but i have to watch my time as i am limited.

> > > gloria