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Those who wrote these articles have not changed their stance on this

subject. If anything, they are even more convicted of it. That is the

opinion of these writers at this time. Do a search on the relationship

between thyroid disease, fibromyalgia, and chronic fatigue syndrome. It

will bring up all kinds of things, but it will bring up those both for and

against it, I'm sure. I tend to agree with these writers and others like

them because of all the research, the similarities, including the statistics

on how many people who have one, are eventually diagnosed with the other.

My opinion, from all that I've read over the last 3 yrs or so, is that

people with fibromyalgia and/or chronic fatigue syndrome are basically

undiagnosed for thyroid disease. A lot of it depends on whether you believe

that the old lab ranges for thyroid disease are correct, or if you believe

that only labs for certain things show whether a person has thyroid disease.

Many doctors now do not believe in the Free T4, Free T3 testing, and they

only go by the TSH values. If you research this, you will find that there

are many reasons not to bank on this test completely by itself, even for

checkups, or the T3 and T4 Totals testing. To me, according to the evidence

that I've been reading over and over, there is every reason to believe that

these 3 diseases are a triad, or syndrome, all the same disease. Also, I

guess I should make mention of the adrenal system, which is intimately tied

to all of this, including the thyroid. I've been posting a lot on this

lately also. When I first started reading an article about this around 2-3

yrs ago, I couldn't believe it. I was quite dubious also, so I started

researching different opinions, etc...And, to me, the proof is there, over

and over. No I don't have a medical license. I don't know of many of us

who are on these sites who do. We all originally got here because we feel

bad and are trying to find out why. Obviously, if we're still seeking, a

lot of our doctors haven't been doing us justice. Now, the doctor isn't a

miracle healer, but I think that most of us could feel better than we do, if

we had someone doctoring us who was willing to listen with an open mind and

put away the pride and financial concerns for just a few minutes.

Tx

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and

Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

> hi i'm new here and have just received a diagnosis of thyroiditis

> and chronic fatigue syndrome.

>

> i see these articles are very old. this one dates back to 1997 and

> was wondering if there are any more current articles ? my doctor

> told me that my thyroid has nothing to do with the chronic fatigue

> syndrome so that is why i was wondering if you had anything more up

> to date regarding this ?

>

> gloria

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Gloria, if your TSH is high, then there is a problem with your thyroid,

specifically. Always, always get a hard copy of your lab results. Never

take the statement from the doctor's office that " your labs are all normal " .

Get the lab values with the normal lab reference ranges. Listen and learn

your disease. I understand that vitamin c, selenium, vitamin e, and the b

vitamins can help, and selenium even helps in the conversion of T4 to T3 in

the body, but they don't take the place of treatment. Has your doctor not

suggested you go on thyroid medication? What is your TSH, T3, and T4? This

is very important. Is your diagnosis Hashimoto's, or did he even bother

running a thyroid antibodies test?

Tx

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and

Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

> my doctor did not give me any medication for either of these things.

> he told me to take some different kinds of vitamins and told me to

> come back in 6 weeks to see if i felt better. if not, he said he

> will run some more blood tests. i don't know if the tests you are

> talking about were run or not. i guess i should call on monday and

> ask if he run t3 and t4? he did tell me my tsh was high but i do not

> know any numbers. i am trying to learn as much as i can via the

> internet but i have to watch my time as i am limited.

> gloria

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I'm in total agreement with on this one. You need a specialist

who knows how to treat the whole person. However, the title of

endocrinologist does not necessarily make a doctor be the one who knows best

what to do for you. There are many good internal medicine specialists and

do's with a greater leaning t'wd understanding of these conditions, and some

family physicians who have made this their main life's practice. Just from

what you've told me, the doctor you have sounds like he doesn't know very

much about thyroid disease. Hypothyroidism is treated with levothyroxine

sodium, natural thyroid glandulars (several brands and origins), and even a

combination of both sometimes. The former is synthetic T4, which is the

main hormone your thyroid makes. The natural glandulars are a combination

of T4 and T3, plus some other substances. T4 is eventually changed to T3,

which is the form that the body uses in the cells. Cytomel is a brand of

T3-only. T3 is about 4 times more powerful than T4 and has an immediate

action in the body. T4 is the storage hormone, but more of it is produced

by a healthy thyroid gland. These are the things that you are replacing,

when it comes to your thyroid.

Tx

Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and

Autoimmune Thyroid Disease.htm

> what kind of medications should i ask to be given for hashimotos

> thyroiditis and chronic fatigue syndrome if these vitamins do not

> make me feel better ?

> gloria

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