RE: Estimated costs

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Here in the northeast kidney transplant can be estimated between

$55-65,000. Meds can be $25,000-$30,000. for the first year. Payment and

a signed self payment contract are required before listing.

Hartford Hospital Transplant Program

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> jbucche@... 4/4/2006 2:00:24 PM >>>

Judy,

Here in the northeast kidney transplant can be estimated between

$55-65,000. Meds can be $25,000-$30,000. for the first year. Payment

and

a signed self payment contract are required before listing.

Hartford Hospital Transplant Program

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

Hi Judy, a few years ago UNOS was quoting $140K from eval through first 12 months post op including meds for a kidney transplant - they based the figure on "average billed charges" I believe. We have no policies in place to accept a private pay patient at this point.

on Financial Counselor Legacy Transplant Services 1040 NW 22nd Ave Ste 480 Portland OR 97210 toll free fax lmorrisolhs (DOT) org

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." FDR

-----Original Message-----From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]On Behalf Of Ames, Judy ASent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:49 AMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: Estimated costs

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs of Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time of transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for a deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program Abbott Northwestern Hospital 800 East 28th Street - Suite G004 Minneapolis, MN 55407 Phone: or Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009 E-Mail: Judy.Ames@... This message contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message.

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Hi , does your contract cover the facility fees only or does it include pro fees? thanks for any info,

on Financial Counselor Legacy Transplant Services 1040 NW 22nd Ave Ste 480 Portland OR 97210 toll free fax lmorrisolhs (DOT) org

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." FDR

-----Original Message-----From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]On Behalf Of anne BuccheriSent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:00 AMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: Re: Estimated costsJudy,Here in the northeast kidney transplant can be estimated between$55-65,000. Meds can be $25,000-$30,000. for the first year. Payment anda signed self payment contract are required before listing.Hartford Hospital Transplant Program>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costsofKidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the timeoftransplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month fortheir medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how thefigures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy foradeposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.Thanks, JudyJudy A. AmesTransplant Financial Operations SupervisorCardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation ProgramAbbott Northwestern Hospital800 East 28th Street - Suite G004Minneapolis, MN 55407Phone: or Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009E-Mail: Judy.Ames@... This message contains information that may be confidential andprivileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive forthe addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the messageor any information contained in the message. If you have received themessage in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and deletethe message.

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[Guest guest]

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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In my opinion, for what it's worth, while it's great to discuss general policies, procedures, etc. (what services are included, for example, or when a deposit is due), I would STRONGLY suggest we refrain from quoting dollar amounts simply because there are too many variables from ctr to ctr & region to region to make a true comparision.

As an example, when I was at another ctr here in Boston that shall remain nameless, the chief of the tx service did a tap dance on head on a regular basis over the amount we would 'quote' (which, btw, included hospital & MD fees) for a self-pay kidney tx pt, which was at least double what our 'partner' was quoting . I was accused of various crimes against humanity by said chief (usually @ the Friday morning mtg of course) including his favorite of 'driving business away', but, as we came to find out eventually, the reason the quote from the 'partner' facility was so low was because it was for the inpt stay of the recipient only & didn't include ANY organ acquisition!!! Leave that off & anyone would do a kidney tx for $7K cost, right??

Just my 2 cents, though.

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

From: TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Ames, Judy ASent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:49 PMTo: TxFinancialCoordinators Subject: Estimated costs

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs of Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time of transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for a deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program Abbott Northwestern Hospital 800 East 28th Street - Suite G004 Minneapolis, MN 55407 Phone: or Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009 E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

[Guest guest]

Hi. Do you have a link to the new publication? I can only seem to locate the

one with the 2002 estimates. Thanks.

-Matt

____________________________________________

Matt Hemberger

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Massachusetts General Hospital

Phone:

Fax:

Re: Estimated costs

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

I do not know whether this publication is online. You can order up to

100 free copies from UNOS though.

Give me your fax # and I will send that page to you.

Fahmy

>>> mhemberger@... 4/4/2006 3:13:53 PM >>>

Hi. Do you have a link to the new publication? I can only seem to

locate the

one with the 2002 estimates. Thanks.

-Matt

____________________________________________

Matt Hemberger

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Massachusetts General Hospital

Phone:

Fax:

Re: Estimated costs

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for

all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. I actually just found it. Here's the link:

http://www.unos.org/SharedContentDocuments/Patient_Booklet.pdf

-Matt

Re: Estimated costs

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for

all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

You are right about quoting $ amounts, . I have no idea what would

be included if we had a self pay kidney contract,as I do not do

contracting. I only estimate a range, as patients often ask. But I

always add that the cost would depend on individual experience.

>>> LAguiar@... 4/4/2006 3:08:13 PM >>>

In my opinion, for what it's worth, while it's great to discuss

general

policies, procedures, etc. (what services are included, for example,

or

when a deposit is due), I would STRONGLY suggest we refrain from

quoting

dollar amounts simply because there are too many variables from ctr to

ctr & region to region to make a true comparision.

As an example, when I was at another ctr here in Boston that shall

remain nameless, the chief of the tx service did a tap dance on head

on

a regular basis over the amount we would 'quote' (which, btw, included

hospital & MD fees) for a self-pay kidney tx pt, which was at least

double what our 'partner' was quoting . I was accused of various

crimes

against humanity by said chief (usually @ the Friday morning mtg of

course) including his favorite of 'driving business away', but, as we

came to find out eventually, the reason the quote from the 'partner'

facility was so low was because it was for the inpt stay of the

recipient only & didn't include ANY organ acquisition!!! Leave that

off

& anyone would do a kidney tx for $7K cost, right??

Just my 2 cents, though.

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

________________________________

From: TxFinancialCoordinators

[mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ] On Behalf Of Ames,

Judy

A

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:49 PM

To: TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: Estimated costs

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

[Guest guest]

We give a general amount of $100,000 for a

kidney and $300,000 for a liver for the transplant event. And only as a “ballpark”

amount. As says below, to get any more specific is risky. Whatever

figure you first give people, written or oral, is the amount they remember. But

they will not remember any qualifiers such as LOS, complications, etc. that you

tell them when you quote an amount. ( Experience is a harsh teacher. )

Fred L. Forsthoffer, MBA

Financial Analyst

Banner Good Samaritan Transplant Services

,

, F-

From:

TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of LAguiar@...

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

12:08 PM

To:

TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject: RE:

Estimated costs

In my

opinion, for what it's worth, while it's great to discuss general policies,

procedures, etc. (what services are included, for example, or when a deposit is

due), I would STRONGLY suggest we refrain from quoting dollar amounts simply

because there are too many variables from ctr to ctr & region to region to

make a true comparision.

As an

example, when I was at another ctr here in Boston that shall remain nameless,

the chief of the tx service did a tap dance on head on a regular basis over the

amount we would 'quote' (which, btw, included hospital & MD fees) for a

self-pay kidney tx pt, which was at least double what our 'partner' was quoting

.. I was accused of various crimes against humanity by said chief (usually

@ the Friday morning mtg of course) including his

favorite of 'driving business away', but, as we came to find out

eventually, the reason the quote from the 'partner' facility was so low was

because it was for the inpt stay of the recipient only & didn't

include ANY organ acquisition!!! Leave that off & anyone would do a

kidney tx for $7K cost, right??

Just my 2

cents, though.

J.

Aguiar

Beth Israel

Deaconess, Boston

From:

TxFinancialCoordinators [mailto:TxFinancialCoordinators ]

On Behalf Of Ames, Judy A

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 1:49

PM

To:

TxFinancialCoordinators

Subject:

Estimated costs

Can

someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs of Kidney

Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for their

medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks,

Judy

Judy

A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks Fahmy, can't wait for 2006 charges.

At 03:26 PM 4/4/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Matt,

>

>I do not know whether this publication is online. You can order up to

>100 free copies from UNOS though.

>Give me your fax # and I will send that page to you.

>

>Fahmy

>

> >>> mhemberger@... 4/4/2006 3:13:53 PM >>>

>Hi. Do you have a link to the new publication? I can only seem to

>locate the

>one with the 2002 estimates. Thanks.

>

>-Matt

>

>____________________________________________

>Matt Hemberger

>Transplant Financial Coordinator

>Massachusetts General Hospital

>Phone:

>Fax:

>

> Re: Estimated costs

>

>

>You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

> " What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for

>all

>phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

>

>Fahmy

>

> >>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

>Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

>of

>Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

>of

>transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

>their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

>figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

>a

>deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

>

>Thanks, Judy

>

>Judy A. Ames

>Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

>Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

>Abbott Northwestern Hospital

>800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

>Minneapolis, MN 55407

>Phone: or

>Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

>E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

>

>

>

>

>This message contains information that may be confidential and

>privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive

>for

>the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the

>message

>or any information contained in the message. If you have received the

>message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete

>the message.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

is there a newer version out?

>>> mhemberger@... 04/04/06 2:13 PM >>>

Hi. Do you have a link to the new publication? I can only seem to

locate the

one with the 2002 estimates. Thanks.

-Matt

____________________________________________

Matt Hemberger

Transplant Financial Coordinator

Massachusetts General Hospital

Phone:

Fax:

Re: Estimated costs

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In it, you'll find estimates for

all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800 East 28th Street - Suite G004

Minneapolis, MN 55407

Phone: or

Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009

E-Mail: Judy.Ames@...

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[Guest guest]

Of interest from UNOS:

Procurement Hospital Physician Evaluation Follow-up Immunos Total first year

Kidney Only 2005 50,800 62,900 17,700 12,300 40,200 26,100 210,000

Kidney Only 2002 45,700 32,800 13,500 9,500 31,200 10,600 143,300

Percentage increase 11% 92% 31% 29.5% 29% 146% 46.5%

on Financial Counselor Legacy Transplant Services 1040 NW 22nd Ave Ste 480 Portland OR 97210 toll free fax lmorrisolhs (DOT) org

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." FDR

Re: Estimated costsYou may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of"What every patient needs to know." In it, you'll find estimates forallphases and aspects of any organ Transplant.Fahmy>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costsofKidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the timeoftransplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month fortheir medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how thefigures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy foradeposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.Thanks, JudyJudy A. AmesTransplant Financial Operations SupervisorCardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation ProgramAbbott Northwestern Hospital800 East 28th Street - Suite G004Minneapolis, MN 55407Phone: or Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009E-Mail: Judy.Ames@... This message contains information that may be confidential andprivileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receiveforthe addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone themessageor any information contained in the message. If you have received themessage in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and deletethe message.

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,

Is this average cost or average charges

for all payor mix?

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Subject: RE:

Estimated costs

Of interest from

UNOS:

Procurement

Hospital Physician

Evaluation Follow-up

Immunos Total first year

Kidney Only

2005 50,800

62,900

17,700 12,300

40,200

26,100 210,000

Kidney Only

2002

45,700

32,800

13,500 9,500

31,200 10,600

143,300

Percentage

increase

11% 92%

31% 29.5%

29%

146%

46.5%

on

Financial Counselor

Legacy Transplant Services

1040 NW 22nd Ave

Ste 480

Portland OR 97210

toll free

fax

lmorriso@...

" The

test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who

have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too

little. " FDR

Re: Estimated

costs

You may also want to consult page 26 of the new

UNOS publication of

" What every patient needs to know. " In

it, you'll find estimates for

all

phases and aspects of any organ Transplant.

Fahmy

>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56

PM >>>

Can someone out there share with me what they give

as estimated costs

of

Kidney Transplant for someone who does not have

coverage at the time

of

transplant. Surgery hospitalization,

Approximate cost per month for

their medications, and for post-op

care. I would like to see how the

figures I am quoting compare to others.

Also, what is your policy for

a

deposit or the funds they need to pay up front to

have the transplant.

Thanks, Judy

Judy A. Ames

Transplant Financial Operations Supervisor

Cardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation Program

Abbott Northwestern Hospital

800

East 28th Street - Suite

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UNOS describes this as "estimated U.S. average billed charges per transplantation" - developed by a business analysis company called Milliman USA Inc

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Re: Estimated costsYou may also want to consult page 26 of the new UNOS publication of"What every patient needs to know." In it, you'll find estimates forallphases and aspects of any organ Transplant.Fahmy>>> Judy.Ames@... 4/4/2006 1:48:56 PM >>>Can someone out there share with me what they give as estimated costsofKidney Transplant for someone who does not have coverage at the timeoftransplant. Surgery hospitalization, Approximate cost per month fortheir medications, and for post-op care. I would like to see how thefigures I am quoting compare to others. Also, what is your policy foradeposit or the funds they need to pay up front to have the transplant.Thanks, JudyJudy A. AmesTransplant Financial Operations SupervisorCardiothoracic and Renal Transplantation ProgramAbbott Northwestern Hospital800 East 28th Street - Suite G004Minneapolis, MN 55407Phone: or Fax: Internal Mail Stop: 11009E-Mail: Judy.Ames@... This message contains information that may be confidential andprivileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receiveforthe addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone themessageor any information contained in the message. If you have received themessage in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and deletethe message.