Re: Digest Number 20

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News item I picked up today on the net.take care all.10/3/98 -- 2:02 PM

France suspends mass hepatitis

inoculations

PARIS (AP) - Faced with a potential health disaster,

France has suspended Hepatitis B vaccinations of

school children, four years after a mass

immunization program began.

Health Minister Bernard Kouchner said inoculations

were stopped because of fears that the vaccine

could cause neurological disorders, in particular

multiple sclerosis.

``It cannot be excluded that the vaccination might

reveal or facilitate'' central nervous system

problems, Kouchner said Thursday.

Since 1994, 11-year-old French school children have

been inoculated with a vaccine against hepatitis, a

potentially deadly virus that attacks the liver.

No scientific study has yet shown a certain link

between the vaccine and multiple sclerosis.

However, a Nanterre court ruled in June that there

was sufficient evidence to conclude there was a

connection between a vaccine produced by British

drug maker Kline Beecham and multiple

sclerosis symptoms in two people, according to Le

Monde newspaper.

Kline Beecham has appealed the ruling and a

court order to pay roughly $23,000. Another ruling is

pending in a case against French pharmaceutical

company Pasteur-Merieux, which also produces an

anti-Hepatitis B vaccine.

The World Health Organization, in a statement

issued Friday, expressed concern that the French

decision would undermine its 100-country inoculation

program and would ``lead to loss of public

confidence in this vaccine, and decisions by other

countries to suspend or delay the introduction of HB

vaccine.''

The organization said the vaccine has an

``outstanding record of safety and efficiency.''

Kouchner's decision represents a new cautious

approach to public health policy following two

scandals in the past decade.

France's national health system suffered a blow

when it was revealed that in the mid-1980s health

officials knowingly provided AIDS-tainted blood

products to hemophiliacs. A former prime minister,

t Fabius, and two other ministers are to stand

trial for their roles in the scandal that left more than

500 people dead.

Last year, authorities began investigation health

officials for distributing potentially tainted growth

hormones that may have killed up to 40 children

afflicted with dwarfism in the mid-1980s.

http://www.tampabayonline.net/news/news100g.htm

Vaccinationsonelist wrote:

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Hi. Some New links.

Vaccine Reaction Database http://www.odomnet.com/vaccines/

The Vaccine Reaction.The Human Stealth Viris and its Animal Origin

http://www.ccid.org/safety/vaccine.html

Rare Books

http://home.earthlink.net/~emptherapies/index.html

Vaccine Safety

http://vaccines.net/index.html

http://www.909shot.com/

http://webpages.netlink.co.nz/~ias/ias.htm

http://www.access1.net/via/

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~shotinfo/

http://www.i-wayco.com/niin/index.html

http://home.swbell.net/prove/

http://www.unidial.com/~metroprint/pave2.html

http://www.tetrahedron.org./tetlinks.htm

http://pages.prodigy.com/gval/

http://www.avn.org.au/

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hello, i have been away for the weekend. soo.. i couldn't reply sooner. i

have not made the solid perfume, so maybe somebody else can help you on this

list. but i would say go ahead and try it. you never know! i am pretty new

at making things. recipes are about the only thing i have a lot of.

kris

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hello, i have been away for the weekend. soo.. i couldn't reply sooner. i

have not made the solid perfume, so maybe somebody else can help you on this

list. but i would say go ahead and try it. you never know! i am pretty new

at making things. recipes are about the only thing i have a lot of.

kris

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I was wondering two things. First to Peggy, where did you get that great

article / speach by Ben that was posted. I REALLY enjoyed it, and felt

like sending it to one person in particular.

Second, to anyone, I read all this information abot watching iron intake

when you have hep. I dont eat meat, ( I am a vegetarian ), I try to eat

a balanced light meals, ( a pizza once in a while is my only slip, well

maybe coffee once or twice a month and some candy once or twice a month

). But now I keep reading about how I should not only stay away from

extra iron, but also foods that are fortifide with it. I have found a

few breads that have very low iron amounts, but I cannot find any

cereals. I eat cereal all the time, and more than one serving, which

means I am getting over 100% of my daily need of iron just in breakfast.

Any suggestions for cereals.

Thanks Corey

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I was wondering two things. First to Peggy, where did you get that great

article / speach by Ben that was posted. I REALLY enjoyed it, and felt

like sending it to one person in particular.

Second, to anyone, I read all this information abot watching iron intake

when you have hep. I dont eat meat, ( I am a vegetarian ), I try to eat

a balanced light meals, ( a pizza once in a while is my only slip, well

maybe coffee once or twice a month and some candy once or twice a month

). But now I keep reading about how I should not only stay away from

extra iron, but also foods that are fortifide with it. I have found a

few breads that have very low iron amounts, but I cannot find any

cereals. I eat cereal all the time, and more than one serving, which

means I am getting over 100% of my daily need of iron just in breakfast.

Any suggestions for cereals.

Thanks Corey

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Hi Peggy (MGoo500300@...)

Thanks so much for sharing the " letter to people without Hepatitis C " . I am

trying to figure out a way to write two of my brothers who live on the

opposite coast, but have each only reached out once to me, and that was

minimally, in the 14 weeks that I have been on combo treatment. I have 10

weeks to go, because I am type 2b, and my 12-week viral load was

non-detectable. Whew, what a relief! I am fortunate that I did not have any

noticeable major symptoms of HCV prior to treatment, but my biopsy showed

that I am Stage 3 and Grade 2, so doing the treatment was the best option for

me. Now, on treatment, I am having quite a bit of side effects, that are

very much like all the problems and symptoms associated with HCV that were

explained in your friend's letter.

I hope you don't mind, that when I do write my brothers to let them know my

feelings, emotionally and physically, that I can use some of what your friend

wrote, adjusted to fit my situation.

Take care,

Sara (SRW1954@...)

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Hi Peggy (MGoo500300@...)

Thanks so much for sharing the " letter to people without Hepatitis C " . I am

trying to figure out a way to write two of my brothers who live on the

opposite coast, but have each only reached out once to me, and that was

minimally, in the 14 weeks that I have been on combo treatment. I have 10

weeks to go, because I am type 2b, and my 12-week viral load was

non-detectable. Whew, what a relief! I am fortunate that I did not have any

noticeable major symptoms of HCV prior to treatment, but my biopsy showed

that I am Stage 3 and Grade 2, so doing the treatment was the best option for

me. Now, on treatment, I am having quite a bit of side effects, that are

very much like all the problems and symptoms associated with HCV that were

explained in your friend's letter.

I hope you don't mind, that when I do write my brothers to let them know my

feelings, emotionally and physically, that I can use some of what your friend

wrote, adjusted to fit my situation.

Take care,

Sara (SRW1954@...)

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Hi Peggy (MGoo500300@...)

Thanks so much for sharing the " letter to people without Hepatitis C " . I am

trying to figure out a way to write two of my brothers who live on the

opposite coast, but have each only reached out once to me, and that was

minimally, in the 14 weeks that I have been on combo treatment. I have 10

weeks to go, because I am type 2b, and my 12-week viral load was

non-detectable. Whew, what a relief! I am fortunate that I did not have any

noticeable major symptoms of HCV prior to treatment, but my biopsy showed

that I am Stage 3 and Grade 2, so doing the treatment was the best option for

me. Now, on treatment, I am having quite a bit of side effects, that are

very much like all the problems and symptoms associated with HCV that were

explained in your friend's letter.

I hope you don't mind, that when I do write my brothers to let them know my

feelings, emotionally and physically, that I can use some of what your friend

wrote, adjusted to fit my situation.

Take care,

Sara (SRW1954@...)

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Hi Peggy (MGoo500300@...)

Thanks so much for sharing the " letter to people without Hepatitis C " . I am

trying to figure out a way to write two of my brothers who live on the

opposite coast, but have each only reached out once to me, and that was

minimally, in the 14 weeks that I have been on combo treatment. I have 10

weeks to go, because I am type 2b, and my 12-week viral load was

non-detectable. Whew, what a relief! I am fortunate that I did not have any

noticeable major symptoms of HCV prior to treatment, but my biopsy showed

that I am Stage 3 and Grade 2, so doing the treatment was the best option for

me. Now, on treatment, I am having quite a bit of side effects, that are

very much like all the problems and symptoms associated with HCV that were

explained in your friend's letter.

I hope you don't mind, that when I do write my brothers to let them know my

feelings, emotionally and physically, that I can use some of what your friend

wrote, adjusted to fit my situation.

Take care,

Sara (SRW1954@...)

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The cereal I eat is Rice Krispies and Grape-Nuts O they have only 10% of

iron. I also eat a lot of cereal and have looked at every box of cereal

at the store. these are the only two. Jessie

EZ-DOES IT

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The cereal I eat is Rice Krispies and Grape-Nuts O they have only 10% of

iron. I also eat a lot of cereal and have looked at every box of cereal

at the store. these are the only two. Jessie

EZ-DOES IT

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The cereal I eat is Rice Krispies and Grape-Nuts O they have only 10% of

iron. I also eat a lot of cereal and have looked at every box of cereal

at the store. these are the only two. Jessie

EZ-DOES IT

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The cereal I eat is Rice Krispies and Grape-Nuts O they have only 10% of

iron. I also eat a lot of cereal and have looked at every box of cereal

at the store. these are the only two. Jessie

EZ-DOES IT

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Peggy- there is no cure, yet.

Dee Dee- I have had blood in my urine numerous times and even though

urology tests would show nothing, Iwould always endup passing a kidney

stone. Remember our blood is infected and blood in urine can also mean

blood in semen for u guys. Safe Sex.

CurleyKew- Signs of varicies are blood in stool-either very visible

blood or older blood which causes your poop to look like tar. You can

either vomit blood or vomit what looks like coffee grinds(Old blood).

Unless you have symtoms i wouldn' worry about it. BUT if u do havethese

symptons go to the ER as fast as u can. Just don't panic.Relax.

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" ...I dream then ask why not "

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Peggy- there is no cure, yet.

Dee Dee- I have had blood in my urine numerous times and even though

urology tests would show nothing, Iwould always endup passing a kidney

stone. Remember our blood is infected and blood in urine can also mean

blood in semen for u guys. Safe Sex.

CurleyKew- Signs of varicies are blood in stool-either very visible

blood or older blood which causes your poop to look like tar. You can

either vomit blood or vomit what looks like coffee grinds(Old blood).

Unless you have symtoms i wouldn' worry about it. BUT if u do havethese

symptons go to the ER as fast as u can. Just don't panic.Relax.

-

" ...I dream then ask why not "

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Beth,

I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Stress plus lack of sleep can

make one a person they normally would not be. Wait until you are rested to

make a decision you would not want to be sorry for.

I have done what you are doing now, caring for my mother in law. The hardest

decision I ever had to make was to place her in an assisted living home. In

the end it worked out well for all of us but not without alot of hurt and

angry feeling to all people involved-(which have since been mended). At some

point we all have to realize we cannot do it all though. My thoughts are

with you during this difficult time. Now let's hope you don't get sick too

with being so worn down. Hope you can get some sleep today.

Hugs,

Pam

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Hey, guys! I never got the comments about the car shop episode! Am I not

getting everything? Yesterday, I only got three posts and two of them were

mine, LOL.

Joan, HELP!

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In a message dated 2/7/2000 2:45:21 PM !!!First Boot!!!, paul.3@...

writes:

<< I'm feeling really bad about the whole situation because my nerves are

pretty fried from hearing her cough and hack and sneeze. She is hyper

sensitive to a lot of meds, so I feel guilty for being short with her. At

any rate, I know you all understand. Thanks for listening.

MB >>

Oh Beth. I am so so sorry!! {{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} Keep us

posted and hang in there!!!

Donna

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Dear Friends,

Oh Sleepless Sisters!!! Just a quick note to ask for your prayers and good

thoughts today. Ben was home all of last week with a cold-turned

bronchitis, and IS back to school today. (Thank God!) But his Nonni

caught the same thing and the weekend was bad for her and last night was a

nightmare. (Long story clipped short here). I was up with her every hour

to help her on the bedside commode but she still managed to fall 3 x. No

serious injuries but she is kinda dazed from coughing all night and no

sleep, as am I. She goes to the doc this morning and now DH and I may have

to be making some quick and important decisions about how much more we can

manage. Of course, the daytime help isn't showing up this morning, and I

don't know if we can get nightime help or not. But we might be having to

make a decision about nursing home care for her pretty quickly. And I hate

trying to think with no sleep.

I'm feeling really bad about the whole situation because my nerves are

pretty fried from hearing her cough and hack and sneeze. She is hyper

sensitive to a lot of meds, so I feel guilty for being short with her. At

any rate, I know you all understand. Thanks for listening.

MB

PS Remember the good news bad news I wrote about the other day (in

reference to Maddie?) Well, the good news is, Ben found my sewing

machine, plugged it in, and figured out how to press on the foot pedal with

his hand to make it go. The very, very bad news is, Ben figured out

the sewing machine. The good news is, he had the good sense (or protection

from on High) to not try to touch the moving needle. Also, said machine is

locking away, needle removed. EEEEEKKKK!!

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At 11:11 AM 2/7/00 EST, you wrote:

>From: Ltb3105@...

>

>Hey, guys! I never got the comments about the car shop episode! Am I not

>getting everything? Yesterday, I only got three posts and two of them were

>mine, LOL.

>

>Joan, HELP!

You're getting everything I am. No one was talking yesterday.

j

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,

It sounds like you are enjoying yourself! I'm just adding my two cents to

say that I'm not in favor of excluding any *real* food unless it's medically

necessary.

Also, in 1983 I bought an All Grain electric stone mill for my wedding

present to myself, for $300, and it still works as well as ever. The flour

is very fine. I like being able to use organic grains, and the flour is

never rancid as store bought whole wheat flour usually is. We don't need to

use sweetener in our pancakes and breads, and people comment on the clean

fresh taste. Sweetener is needed more for white flour goods, to cover up

the muddy flavor, and for rancid wheat flour products.

So I think you will enjoy having freshly ground flour, too. In our neck of

the woods, Arrowhead hard red winter wheat is most consistently the dryest.

But that can vary by location.

Best wishes,

> Dear Sol and The Pavels,

>

> Thank you so much for your thoughtful responses to my questions about

> including grains. Your words and ideas were helpful. I am going to do

> some more reading and research and then maybe give the grains a try

> and see how we feel.

>

> If we are going to include whole grains in the forms of freshly

> ground cereals or " Nourishing Traditions " prepared breads, we will be

> purchasing the grain mill container for our Vitamix blender. Because

> it is a bit of an investment, I want to have a good sense of which

> way

> we are going to go.

>

> I have never been a part of an e-mail group like this before. It's

> great. I don't get on-line everyday, but I look forward to reading

> all

> of the postings.

>

> I think part of my reaction to the idea of excluding grains comes out

> of feeling like we just got on track with a more whole, balanced

> approach and I don't want to go down the track of yet another

> " theory " .

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

>

> P.S. I made the Shrimp broth in Sally's book yesterday and it was

> delicious! Even better with a dab of creme fraiche. I'm working on

> my

> first batch of cream cheese and whey and looking forward to making

> several of the fermented veggies and chutneys next week. I made real

> chicken broth for the first time in my life. This is such fun. We are

> so enjoying our food again!

> Thanks again,

>

>

>

>

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Israela

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Please unsubscribe me, I got too much mail at the moment and can't cope with

it all.

Best wishes

Chonette

Digest Number 20

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You might also want to contact Carol Ann kson, who is the U.S. contact for Dr. Masgutova. I believe there may be an opportunity to get with Dr. Masgutova in Florida in 2006, but Carol Ann would have those details.

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