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In a message dated 10/26/99 11:00:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

@... writes:

<< We had a list of

nurses who would assist these patients and a list of those who refused. >>

We have such a list also....

I would like to comment that most of the time we rarely had someone " refuse "

to care for these pts. If we did it was an honored choice the nurse was

" allowed " to make.

Just like I hate doing technobirth, and my peers usually honor my choice to

not take these pts when I can. (which hasnt been that often lately!!!!!)

Jan

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In a message dated 10/26/99 1:21:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

DEBBIE6650@... writes:

<< What

I'm more concerned about is having my own feelings affect the way I deal

with

these patients. I don't want to come across as judgemental to them. I know

that we all have ethical issues that, as nurses, we have to rationalize in

our own minds, even if we do not agree with the choices made by the patients

or their families. >>

Debbie,

It sounds to me like you are being very honest with yourself and that's a

good thing!!!! We as nurse, have historically looked after everyone else BUT

ourselves.

If you are loosing sleep over this, or are being tortured mentally perhaps it

is worth giving up the high risk challenge to move into an area that does not

have these challenges.

However, may I suggest that perhaps this IS your place to be! For those

nurses that this has become so matter of fact, or are able to not " see " how

our world is...painful as this may be at times, cannot grow such as you are.

You are looking deeply into your own values, morals and soul. This is a

journey we all must make at some point in our lives in order to truly find

oneselff. Perhaps this is the road your soul needs to take to get there???

Just a thought,

Jan

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In fact, TC/HDL-C has been shown as a good predictor of risk.  Though I understand your perspective, and certainly am more focused on dietary & lifestyle interventions.

 

I didn't include the references ranges because, like you, I'm not as interested in those parameters, but moreso in the effects that we're seeing relative to treatment.  They are counter-intuitive to the predicted results.  This is what I was looking for comment on.

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