Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 In a message dated 9/5/2010 8:02:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, blosshan@... writes: I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. Hi, the first thing I would do is have the leg ex rayed to make sure it is not something more serious than arthritis.. {{ I mention this due to a recent sad experience }} Instead of using DMSO-- I think MSM which is made from DMSO would be a good choice.. My brother & his wife raised Newfoundlands. When the " General " got to be 13 yrs old he had trouble with arthritis & Gordon added MSM to his drinking water everyday. It really helped..... If you do a search for MSM & pets you will find all kinds of information & a little searching will find you the best price. someone on the list may know where the best price is...Good luck---Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thank you Lois, for your response. MSM is one of the things she will not take, not in drinking water, not hidden in a little ball of minced meat, or disguised in whatever form I can think of. A bit of a bummer because I have plenty of MSM, and is on standby for everything else with my othr pets.. If there is a spot of arthritis setting in, and with MSM not an option (and I have tried it every which way), I thought of DMSO. At 10:53 PM 5/09/2010, you wrote: > >In a message dated 9/5/2010 8:02:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >blosshan@... writes: > >I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to >their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in robust >health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > > >Hi, the first thing I would do is have the leg ex rayed to make sure it is >not something more serious than arthritis.. {{ I mention this due to a >recent sad experience }} Instead of using DMSO-- I think MSM which is made >from DMSO would be a good choice.. My brother & his wife raised >Newfoundlands. When the " General " got to be 13 yrs old he had >trouble with arthritis & > Gordon added MSM to his drinking water everyday. It really helped..... If >you do a search for MSM & pets you will find all kinds of information & a >little searching will find you the best price. someone on the list may know > where the best price is...Good luck---Lois > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Bulk msm can be ordered quite reasonable online. It is quite bitter. Re: DMSO and dogs In a message dated 9/5/2010 8:02:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, blosshan@... writes: I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. Hi, the first thing I would do is have the leg ex rayed to make sure it is not something more serious than arthritis.. {{ I mention this due to a recent sad experience }} Instead of using DMSO-- I think MSM which is made from DMSO would be a good choice.. My brother & his wife raised Newfoundlands. When the " General " got to be 13 yrs old he had trouble with arthritis & Gordon added MSM to his drinking water everyday. It really helped..... If you do a search for MSM & pets you will find all kinds of information & a little searching will find you the best price. someone on the list may know where the best price is...Good luck---Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 The studies that noted corneal cloudiness in dogs were long term, like four months if I am recalling correctly. It is detailed in DMSO Nature's Healer. I would not hesitate to give my dog's DMSO for a week and have done so without problems in a 90 lb ten year old dog with severe hip pain. I also applied it topically twice a day. She loved it when I would apply it topically as it was very warming. I gave her 5cc orally every day for weeks in chicken broth or milk, milk was the easiest way to get any of my cats or dogs to take oral DMSO. It is a diuretic so will make the dog drink more water and need to pee more often. Just be sure they have access to plenty of fresh water as dehydration could result if they do not have as much water as they want -- which will be more than you normally have to provide. Garnet Hanneke T wrote: > > I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to > their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in > robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > She eats well, drinks well, just very slow on her legs. > 3 weeks ago she started dragging her left front paw with the last > joint folding, and dragging which caused the fur to rub off on top of > her toes. Those wounds healed up nearly overnight by using Olive Gold > 03. Having rubbed the lower part of her left leg with the same OO-03 > for a couple of days seems to have improved the foot/paw movement > further but I am just not happy with it mostly because she is far from > active. > If she has beginning arthritis, I thought perhaps giving her 4 ml of > DMSO a day might help her. > > I did some searches on line, and understand that the toxicity in dogs > (causing blindness) has been a reason for the FDA to jump on it, and > basically stopped DMSO use as a result. > > Reading the one article, the doses were pretty high and injected, > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1124535.. > The trials were with 9 ml/kg, and later 3ml/kg > I worked out that that would be 450 ml/150ml for my dog of 50 kg, > daily. Quite a high dose I would say. > (I hope I interpreted those tests properly) > > I was thinking of giving her a teaspoon (using 4 ml syringe) for about > 7 days. > > What are the thoughts on this. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I found the best nano silver maker for $200 at meissnerresearch.com It has been noted in holistic circles, that a lot of our health issues, including arthritis in humans and animals, is from microbes, mostly bacterias that are becoming even more stealth. This silver is wonderful. Just a thought. > The studies that noted corneal cloudiness in dogs were long term, like > four months if I am recalling correctly. > It is detailed in DMSO Nature's Healer. > > I would not hesitate to give my dog's DMSO for a week and have done so > without problems in a 90 lb > ten year old dog with severe hip pain. I also applied it topically twice > a day. She loved it when I would > apply it topically as it was very warming. > > I gave her 5cc orally every day for weeks in chicken broth or milk, milk > was the easiest way to get any of my cats or dogs to take oral DMSO. > > It is a diuretic so will make the dog drink more water and need to pee > more often. Just be sure they have > access to plenty of fresh water as dehydration could result if they do > not have as much water as they want -- which will be more than you > normally have to provide. > > Garnet > > Hanneke T wrote: > > > > I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to > > their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in > > robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > > > She eats well, drinks well, just very slow on her legs. > > 3 weeks ago she started dragging her left front paw with the last > > joint folding, and dragging which caused the fur to rub off on top of > > her toes. Those wounds healed up nearly overnight by using Olive Gold > > 03. Having rubbed the lower part of her left leg with the same OO-03 > > for a couple of days seems to have improved the foot/paw movement > > further but I am just not happy with it mostly because she is far from > > active. > > If she has beginning arthritis, I thought perhaps giving her 4 ml of > > DMSO a day might help her. > > > > I did some searches on line, and understand that the toxicity in dogs > > (causing blindness) has been a reason for the FDA to jump on it, and > > basically stopped DMSO use as a result. > > > > Reading the one article, the doses were pretty high and injected, > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1124535.. > > The trials were with 9 ml/kg, and later 3ml/kg > > I worked out that that would be 450 ml/150ml for my dog of 50 kg, > > daily. Quite a high dose I would say. > > (I hope I interpreted those tests properly) > > > > I was thinking of giving her a teaspoon (using 4 ml syringe) for about > > 7 days. > > > > What are the thoughts on this. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- " Heaven's not a place we go to, it's a place we grow to, on the arm of someone we've helped. " Edgar Cayce Janette Warren My work: www.iahp.com/janettewarren Radio Interview on CranioSacral Therapy: http://www.blubrry.com/beyond50radio/779310/episode-177-craciosacral-therapy/?au\ toplay=1 Brain Supplements: www.healthyfutures.net/HealthySolutions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I have had good results with a product called Arthro 3. It has bosweilia, tumeric and MSM in it--all in one tablet. I've also used bosweilia and tumeric on their own. Mara > Thank you Lois, for your response. > > MSM is one of the things she will not take, not in drinking water, > not hidden in a little ball of minced meat, or disguised in whatever > form I can think of. > A bit of a bummer because I have plenty of MSM, and is on standby > for everything else with my othr pets.. If there is a spot of > arthritis setting in, and with MSM not an option (and I have tried it > every which way), I thought of DMSO. > > At 10:53 PM 5/09/2010, you wrote: > > > >In a message dated 9/5/2010 8:02:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > >blosshan@... writes: > > > >I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering > DMSO to > >their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in > robust > >health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > > > > > > >Hi, the first thing I would do is have the leg ex rayed to make > sure it is > >not something more serious than arthritis.. {{ I mention this due > to a > >recent sad experience }} Instead of using DMSO-- I think MSM which > is made > >from DMSO would be a good choice.. My brother & his wife raised > >Newfoundlands. When the " General " got to be 13 yrs old he had > >trouble with arthritis & > > Gordon added MSM to his drinking water everyday. It really > helped..... If > >you do a search for MSM & pets you will find all kinds of > information & a > >little searching will find you the best price. someone on the list > may know > > where the best price is...Good luck---Lois > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Re:<MSM is one of the things she will not take, not in drinking water, not hidden in a little ball of minced meat, or disguised in whatever form I can think of.> Hi Hanneke, you could try what I do with any tablet or capsule I have to give to my cats: If it's not a tablet, put your supplement into a capsule. Buy some little cans of stinky, wet cat food - fishy stuff is good. Immediately before giving it to your dog, dip the capsule (and the ends of your fingers holding it) into the wet cat food so it's call overed in slippery stuff, open her mouth right up - take careful aim and drop it right down the back of her tongue. I then use my little finger (fingerpad to top of mouth) to push it a bit past the " point-of-no-return " , finger is wet from dipping into the food and won't hurt or do any damage... I keep my little fingernail clipped close for just this reason and the finger is nicely shaped to fit a throat. Then immediately let your dog lick your fingers, or wipe the juice over her tongue and give her a teeny treat from the can, and lots of praise. With a bit of practice, this makes the whole experience quite nice for the animal, and they don't hate you afterwards :-) I never feed canned food, but do keep some in the cupboard for this reason. regards Kirsty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Garnet, was that 5cc already diluted to a 5% strength, or was is full strength diluted in the liquid? Gerry ----- The studies that noted corneal cloudiness in dogs were long term, like four months if I am recalling correctly. It is detailed in DMSO Nature's Healer. I would not hesitate to give my dog's DMSO for a week and have done so without problems in a 90 lb ten year old dog with severe hip pain. I also applied it topically twice a day. She loved it when I would apply it topically as it was very warming. I gave her 5cc orally every day for weeks in chicken broth or milk, milk was the easiest way to get any of my cats or dogs to take oral DMSO. It is a diuretic so will make the dog drink more water and need to pee more often. Just be sure they have access to plenty of fresh water as dehydration could result if they do not have as much water as they want -- which will be more than you normally have to provide. Garnet Hanneke T wrote: > > I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to > their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in > robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > She eats well, drinks well, just very slow on her legs. > 3 weeks ago she started dragging her left front paw with the last > joint folding, and dragging which caused the fur to rub off on top of > her toes. Those wounds healed up nearly overnight by using Olive Gold > 03. Having rubbed the lower part of her left leg with the same OO-03 > for a couple of days seems to have improved the foot/paw movement > further but I am just not happy with it mostly because she is far from > active. > If she has beginning arthritis, I thought perhaps giving her 4 ml of > DMSO a day might help her. > > I did some searches on line, and understand that the toxicity in dogs > (causing blindness) has been a reason for the FDA to jump on it, and > basically stopped DMSO use as a result. > > Reading the one article, the doses were pretty high and injected, > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1124535.. > The trials were with 9 ml/kg, and later 3ml/kg > I worked out that that would be 450 ml/150ml for my dog of 50 kg, > daily. Quite a high dose I would say. > (I hope I interpreted those tests properly) > > I was thinking of giving her a teaspoon (using 4 ml syringe) for about > 7 days. > > What are the thoughts on this. > > ------------------------------------ List Home Page: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO Books: DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, NDYahoo! Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 5cc of full strength. G Simpkins wrote: > > Garnet, > > was that 5cc already diluted to a 5% strength, or was is full strength > diluted in the liquid? > > Gerry > ----- > > The studies that noted corneal cloudiness in dogs were long term, like > four months if I am recalling correctly. > It is detailed in DMSO Nature's Healer. > > I would not hesitate to give my dog's DMSO for a week and have done so > without problems in a 90 lb > ten year old dog with severe hip pain. I also applied it topically twice > a day. She loved it when I would > apply it topically as it was very warming. > > I gave her 5cc orally every day for weeks in chicken broth or milk, milk > was the easiest way to get any of my cats or dogs to take oral DMSO. > > It is a diuretic so will make the dog drink more water and need to pee > more often. Just be sure they have > access to plenty of fresh water as dehydration could result if they do > not have as much water as they want -- which will be more than you > normally have to provide. > > Garnet > > Hanneke T wrote: > > > > I wonder if anyone has some experiences to share administering DMSO to > > their dog. My 7 yr old Rottweiler, although never having been in > > robust health, is slowing down so much lately, she worries me seriously. > > > > She eats well, drinks well, just very slow on her legs. > > 3 weeks ago she started dragging her left front paw with the last > > joint folding, and dragging which caused the fur to rub off on top of > > her toes. Those wounds healed up nearly overnight by using Olive Gold > > 03. Having rubbed the lower part of her left leg with the same OO-03 > > for a couple of days seems to have improved the foot/paw movement > > further but I am just not happy with it mostly because she is far from > > active. > > If she has beginning arthritis, I thought perhaps giving her 4 ml of > > DMSO a day might help her. > > > > I did some searches on line, and understand that the toxicity in dogs > > (causing blindness) has been a reason for the FDA to jump on it, and > > basically stopped DMSO use as a result. > > > > Reading the one article, the doses were pretty high and injected, > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1124535.. > > The trials were with 9 ml/kg, and later 3ml/kg > > I worked out that that would be 450 ml/150ml for my dog of 50 kg, > > daily. Quite a high dose I would say. > > (I hope I interpreted those tests properly) > > > > I was thinking of giving her a teaspoon (using 4 ml syringe) for about > > 7 days. > > > > What are the thoughts on this. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Home Page: > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO > > Books: > DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton > MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, > ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Hanneke, I make roll ups, which is a slice of Budding's dried beef, coated with cream cheese and a green tail, rolled up. But--my dogs love these, minus the greet tail (spring onion). So when I want to give them something nasty' tasting, I mix it with a bit of the cream cheese, smear the cheese on the slice of dried beef (for those of you who don't know it's not really dried, and it's very, very thin sandwich kind of thin) roll it up and give it to them. They wolf it down, smelling the beef and cream cheese, and never even know the medicine is in there. If your girl doesn't like the beef, they also have ham and turkey. You may not be able to get the specific brand, but try looking through your deli department, or even have them slice up some real roast or something super thin. The cream cheese will bind with anything--I've even mixed liquid in with it--and rolled up inside a meat treat the dogs usually will take anything. Samala, -------Original Message------- Perhaps you could hide the MSM in an empty capsule covered with raw Hamburger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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