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I must admit, Saudi Arabia is easily the safest country that I have ever been in

- as far as personal safety is concerned. During Ramzaan, my working hours were

8:00AM to 12:00 noon, and then 8:00PM to 12:00 midnight. There were many times

when I had hailed a cab after midnight and travelled home on my own. That is

something I would never dare do in my own country - much as I love it.  I do not

think this was because of the Abaya - in any case I never wore it at work in the

hospital - but because of the very real threat of capital punishment.

Public beheading was a regular feature there - I never worked up the nerve to

attend one, though - have you attended any, Shyam ?

 

Be that as it may, after having travelled extensively ( South America is the

only continent I haven't been to ), and having experienced many cultures first

hand, I still very much prefer our own Bharat, with all its faults. I still get

goosebumps when the Indian coastline / the Himalayas come into view (depending

on where I am flying in from) - with a strong feeling of - " this is MY country "

:-)  !!!   I am sure all of us feel that - in one way or the other - after all,

this is where our roots are !

 

Prabha'84

 

Subject: To,Kishoreda/Ravin

To: mgims

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:59 PM

 

To,Kishoreda,

Yes,u have rightly explained it,with Khadi,as the best example,with regards to

Abhaya..and with,an very apt ending line.

To,Ravin,

Thanx for ur query..and ur thoughts.

No,...neither the Non-Muslim females,r comfortable. .nor some of the locals

also,for that matter..,bcos. .when any International flight takes off..and

leaves the Saudi Airspace..., all the black cloaks,..quietly r dispensed

with,folded and neatly kept in their respective hand luggage..and the flight

suddenly, gets transformed. .into a catwalk's ramp!!

.....And an opposite scene,is witnessed,when the stunning PYT,next U..from

Mumbai..suddenly, after hearing the final landing call,dons.the black

cloak,taking u by surprise!!.

On,that note,any rule,any law..if forced on humans,more so the elders,..is never

taken..happily. .

It just,has to be followed..

But,let me share with u that,...it does lead to drastic reduction..in the number

of Romeos,Eveteasers, ..than I have noticed on the Mumbai/Delhi, streets.. .etc

etc..

Bye

Shyam(84)

Re: Abaya/Conversion. -To,Kishoreda

Shyam, I did not want to step in immediately. .. but I guess I can, since I

find no flaring tempers :-D

It seems to be fine with the non-Muslim menfolk, but do the non-Muslim

girls/womenfolk like it, or is it just a typical Indian married female's

sacrifice for the better of the family? ;-)

This I say, because I sincerely doubt any non-Muslim female would like to be

cloaked, especially so if she wasn't born and brought up in a similar

environment. ..

Ravin '82

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Well, Prabha, I would say that about our old USA too! I know a lot of you would

say what about the ghetto areas....downtown etc? Yes those might not be the

safest even during day time, but the suburbia is very safe. Many a times I have

gone grocery shopping after 10.00 pm (although Ashok doesn't like that) without

any hesitation. I have also travelled alone  for conferences, boards etc to

dfferent cities which I would shudder to do in apna Bharat.

I was even scared to move from one Mumbai airport to other with my kids and

luggage at night.

I like that freedom and sense of security that I get here. Another plus is

absence of eveteasing . Aisha has no concept of eve teasing as she is never

exposed to that.

I think that is the worst form of female of oppression and exploitation and that

is one thing that makes me furious.

Anyways I think that every place has its pluses and minuses and one should

accept and adapt to their surroundings and make the best of it. After all life

is short, ain't it?

What say you guys?

 

Renuka 84 

From: shyamkamath <shyamkamath@ hotmail.com>

Subject: To,Kishoreda/ Ravin

To: mgimsyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:59 PM

 

To,Kishoreda,

Yes,u have rightly explained it,with Khadi,as the best example,with regards to

Abhaya..and with,an very apt ending line.

To,Ravin,

Thanx for ur query..and ur thoughts.

No,...neither the Non-Muslim females,r comfortable. .nor some of the locals

also,for that matter..,bcos. .when any International flight takes off..and

leaves the Saudi Airspace..., all the black cloaks,..quietly r dispensed

with,folded and neatly kept in their respective hand luggage..and the flight

suddenly, gets transformed. .into a catwalk's ramp!!

.....And an opposite scene,is witnessed,when the stunning PYT,next U..from

Mumbai..suddenly, after hearing the final landing call,dons.the black

cloak,taking u by surprise!!.

On,that note,any rule,any law..if forced on humans,more so the elders,..is never

taken..happily. .

It just,has to be followed..

But,let me share with u that,...it does lead to drastic reduction..in the number

of Romeos,Eveteasers, ..than I have noticed on the Mumbai/Delhi, streets.. .etc

etc..

Bye

Shyam(84)

Re: Abaya/Conversion. -To,Kishoreda

Shyam, I did not want to step in immediately. .. but I guess I can, since I

find no flaring tempers :-D

It seems to be fine with the non-Muslim menfolk, but do the non-Muslim

girls/womenfolk like it, or is it just a typical Indian married female's

sacrifice for the better of the family? ;-)

This I say, because I sincerely doubt any non-Muslim female would like to be

cloaked, especially so if she wasn't born and brought up in a similar

environment. ..

Ravin '82

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