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I agree, based on our popular understanding of what a diagnosis is. If

one focuses on dimensions (what Pete calls " things " or " behavioral

indicators " ), such as attention, motivation, organization, planning,

emotional control, activation, energy, arousal, mood, memory for

lists....etc, then with NFB you can try to target those individual

areas. If someone has problems in all those areas, you might say they

have AD/HD and depression, but then that broad category doesn't seem to

help much in targeting interventions.

The same debate goes on in the psychotherapy venue, where, for example,

it can be argued that the five factor model is better for understanding

an individual that the DSM, which most of us agree is not that helpful.

Kirk

(a reasonably open-minded ((I like to think)) doctor)

Van Deusen wrote:

> ,

>

> e

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> A person has some things they'd like to be able to do faster, better

> or more easily;

> Looking at those behavioral indicators, a clinician can come up with a

> standardized name for them--a diagnosis;

> That hopefully leads to an approach to changing the desired behavior,

> mood, performance, thought parameters.

>

> In brain training, we are able to work directly with the basic actor

> in behavior, mood, performance, thought--the brain. We do this, not

> by talking to the mind, not by intervening in its chemistry, but by

> changing its patterns of activation, which have become stable

> (sometimes stuck) over time. In order to do this, we don't need the

> diagnostic " name " for a problem. In fact it's almost utterly

> worthless (take, for example, " ADHD " , which is such an immensely broad

> category that it has been subdivided into buckets of different

> categories by at least half a dozen experts--some of whom have been

> able to subsume literally almost every mental " disorder " into this one

> diagnoses (see Amen). So instead we do this:

>

> A person has some things they'd like to be able to do faster, better

> or more easily;

> Looking at those behavioral indicators, we can identify targeted brain

> patterns that are consistent with the things the client wants to

> change--a training plan;

> That hopefully leads to a change in the desired behavior, mood,

> performance, thought parameters.

>

> No diagnosis on a medical record or school record or insurance record,

> etc. to follow the client the rest of his/her life. No labeling

> required. Just the desired changes--and often many others that were

> not even contemplated.

>

> Pete

>

>

>

>

> On 2/24/07, * Roscher* <davotron777@...

> > wrote:

>

> I am interested in one of these devices, and to improve my own

> personal functionality.

> I worked in computer engineering and hardware development and so

> far I've used electronic music (house, trance, and other 140BPM

> music) to get my mind going and it helps me focus and stay on task.

> It seems to me that when i do this, I drown out my environment and

> am able to focus on whatever task has been set in front of me.

> Sometimes these tasks are incredibly boring but the music makes

> the difference.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

>

>

> ps: I know I have diagnosis's but I am reluctant to include them

> because I feel that allot of doctors are closed minded and are not

> open to alternative therapies. So far there therapies are just

> stimulants.

>

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