Re: What is the cause of this???

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WAIT A MINUTE................before you do anything, please read the FDA adverse reactions, there are several children that had the gastric tube placed down their throat and it was inserted incorrectly and they poured, I can't remember how many ml's into their lungs instead.....................REMEMBER...........this is human error, but what a cost the child will have to pay having a liquid plastic drained into their lungs with no antidote or hope...........all over a constipation issue.............please read them there are MANY..............you'll need to scroll from left to right to see the route i.e. oral, intravenous, gastic tube etc. Please find an alternative to PEG......................this is so wrong

Jeanie> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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Oh, yes, we had done it all. He was basically constipated from birth, I first brought it to the doctor's attention when he was 2 months old and went 9 days without pooping. We have tried everything from Lactulose to Miralax (glad to be off it) to diet restrictions, etc. The GI did a barium enema at age 3 1/2 to check for any problems. Of course, he was extremely backed up (which could also be felt upon physical exam). We didn't have to do any xrays after cleaning him out - I could tell when the last of the "rocks" were out, and we were only getting massive liquid blowouts. Now he only takes 400mg of magnesium citrate a day to keep regular. It wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea to get an xray confirming cleanout if you aren't sure.

I would go with your instincts - I have found most (though not all) doctors will only go with what they know works and aren't so open minded to alternative treatments.

What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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We used magnesium citrate liquid for our sons cleanout! It works great but does taste sour! I dont know if your son well drink or not! They do carry grape flavored now(still a little sour). The cramping/vomiting can be due to severe backup! The nose cleanout im pretty sure they may use the magnesium citrate, not 100% on this for all tube cleanouts, but this is what they was gonna use for my son if I couldnt get him cleaned out! Liquid stool could be also a severe backup sign(turns liquid and slips by the hard stuff). I thinking with all your son has had, he well get it out, this is the hard part of getting backup out. Our gastro told us to try and get all the citrate in within 2hours, it can be broken up over longer time but works best they said with in the 2 hours. Be sure and try to get lots of water in also to help make work better no matter what you use!

Best wishes, he well do good! Jennie<><

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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Ask them about magnesium citrate

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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I used mad citrate and a mineral oil enema so far we are getting results he is no where near empty yet but its working. Can I also use regular mineral oil with the mag citrate? Thankfully my son will take anything I ask him to

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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I wouldnt use anymore mineral oil enemas, usually a saline enema is recommended after to clean the oil residue, so you might as well just use the saline ones. The oils tend to stick to the intestinal lining. I wouldnt use the oral mineral oil either with the citrate oral! It can interfer with the mag citrate doing its job. This well cause issues with medication/vitamin absortion. The mag citrate well do the job. That is great if your son is willingly drinking this for you, be sure and get as much water in him with it also, this makes it work much much better. Glad you are seeing results. Jennie<><

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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Is this being prescribed? Sounds dangerous...........

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS