Re: What is the cause of this???

[Guest guest]

usually when they are trying to diagnose a problem they do a barium enema to rule out hershpruns and other possibilities, they should never prescribe Miralax unless they know there are no blockages but they do everyday..............just out of curiosity, was you or your child exposed to antibiotics while pregnant or in the first few weeks of life? Ususally vomiting is a sign of blockage, which in his case could be just stool but they usually do tests to find out if there's a problem.............have you ever tried a probiotic instead of a laxative, my girlfriend has lupus and was vomiting daily, it stopped completely when she started a probiotic. This may not be the case with your son, but it's worth a try, there's a reason he's so uncomfortable..................you definetely need a second opinion and please read the FDA adverse reaction sheets before

giving miralax again....................

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/files/

Jeanie

Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

Yes I was on anti-biotics during pregnancy. Zithromax twice from severe sinus infection and

some type of sulfer drug for a UTI. My son also suffered from frequent ear infections as a baby and toddler then they finally put tubes in his ears. I am certainly going to request the

barium x-ray from reading it sounds like this could rule several things out. I haven't ever tried probiotics I don't know much about it but i'm going to look into it. Is that a prescription?

PS THANKS SO MUCH 4 UR HELP

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

I also forgot to add that some of their testing for food allergies is not always correct, look into different ways of testing like entrolab. Pfeiffer Treatment Center does a complete look at bio-chemistry i.e. heavy metals, minerals. ie. elevated copper, zinc deficiency etc. he may be deficient in something or too much of another. enviromental chemicals can cause digestive symptoms as well, spraying pesticides in your home, lawn etc.

http://www.hriptc.org/

https://www.enterolab.com/Home.htm---

Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/probiotics/pro_bio/probio_chewable_90_Spec344.html---

Subject: Re: What is the cause of this???To: miralax Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 10:37 AM

Yes I was on anti-biotics during pregnancy. Zithromax twice from severe sinus infection and

some type of sulfer drug for a UTI. My son also suffered from frequent ear infections as a baby and toddler then they finally put tubes in his ears. I am certainly going to request the

barium x-ray from reading it sounds like this could rule several things out. I haven't ever tried probiotics I don't know much about it but i'm going to look into it. Is that a prescription?

PS THANKS SO MUCH 4 UR HELP

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

No, probiotics is not a prescription. You can good ones at your local co-op, you can get excellent ones at www.kirkmanlabs.com. We use and are successful with the Probiotic Defense (helps with illnesses, too). The link is:

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/probiotics/pro_bio/Pro_BioDefence263.html

or the Probiotic Gold...

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/probiotics/pro_bio/H_PROBIO_Gold_C_60_Spec042.html

My ds does not take pills, so we open the capsules and sprinkle on his food. He asks for it everyday.

Good luck to you!!!

P.S. It doesn't work immediately - double the dose and keep giving it. It takes some time to kill the bad flora and build up the good.

Tracie

What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

Jeanie - Have you used Enterolabs? What did you think? Which tests did you use (if you don't mind me asking)?

Thanks!

Tracie

What is the cause of this???To: miralax Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

do the doctors typically react well when you tell them you are going to explore this method

sometimes i get nervous they make me feel like I have to follow their exact direction in order to get additional help or testing done

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

Please find a new Pediatrician & GI ASAPNo child should suffer like that!Try 2- 8 ounce glasses of Sunsweet Plum Juice & then go to 1-8 oz glass per day & start on a good probiotic.You might want to try Nordic Naturals ProEFA also.Go to the archives in this group & listen to the moms on this list , they really know aboutconstipation.HTH. Yvette Sent from my phone

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep

tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So

30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the

book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son

had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset.

They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was

severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag

and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks

the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I

again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric

gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap

of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave

him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed

lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat

and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND

OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY

JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)?

HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE

FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

It's definitely a dance...my husband always says to use the velvet hammer...

What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

you have to find the right doctors..........natural medicine, DAN doctors (some autism doctors will accept you even if they aren't autistic) Chiroproctors etc. most Chiro's know how to send off stool samples to these people..............what area are you from? we'll help you find one.................

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't recommend doubling any dose, the problem itself took time to develop and so will the treatment....................doubling any dose is not recommended even by the company

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

your health professional will order the proper tests that needs to be done, they usually test for parasites, and how the BM is breaking down short and long chain fatty acids etc. It is simply looking at stools for ph, and normalcy, from their they recommend certain things to correct, like candida or pseudanomas etc. they are looking for bad bacteria overgrowth etc.

Trying a probiotic first is always a good thing and could save you lots of time and money..........

what do I think? you can't know until you test the stool.................

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

It sounds as though the diarrhea while on lactulose is stemming from

the fact that he was so backed up initially, that his colon is all

stretched out internally (megacolon)...then he had the enema, which

got the bulk of the stool out, and now, the lactulose is 'causing'

diarrhea because the size of the colon is still so large. So really,

the lactulose isn't 'causing' the diarrhea in that sense-- try

backing down the dose of the lactulose, while still keeping some

fiber sources in him, whether food sources like celery if he will eat

it, or keep him on some type of fiber supplements. Whatever you had

been using, or consider trying something different. Some fibers work

better for people than others.

There is also an expensive produce called juice with fibre (google it

with that spelling) or it might be juice plus fibre. Either way, a

crate of it is expensive, and yet, wow, the fiber that was in there

really did a good job with my daughter. But it was hard to remember

to get her to drink it every day.

For now, we are doing an oxypowder regimen every weekend. Oxypowder

is a magnesium supplement that helps move things through. It's been

a few weeks but our regimen is like this: Friday after school, come

home and take one capsule. Take another capsule the next day at

lunch time. Take another capsule that evening as well. Take one

more on Sunday, maybe morning or lunchtime. This makes the stool

come out pretty loose on the weekend and then it comes out daily or

every other day during the week, looking fairly normal. By Friday it

is starting to look pellety again. But this is a whole lot better

than a chemical substance like miralax, IMO.

If anything the lactulose is certainly the lesser of two evils. My

son had used lactulose no problems before miralax. After miralax,

everything seemed messed up in his bowels. Anyway, with the

lactulose, I would say back down, keep the fiber intake up, and keep

water intake up. You should be able to find the happy medium. Look

into getting him on probiotics as well... (think of those commercials

for the yogurt lately that talk about probiotics...same idea).

W

>

> My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep

> tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So

> 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick " in

the

> book " nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my

son

> had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach

upset.

> They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he

was

> severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of

mag

> and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two

weeks

> the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I

> again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric

> gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do

1cap

> of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they

gave

> him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they

prescribed

> lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for

wheat

> and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND

> OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO

THEY

> JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT

TO)?

> HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE

> FABULOUS

>

[Guest guest]

i live in lyndeborough new hampshire so far we have used dartmouth hitchcock gi specialist and neurologist (migranes) they swear it has nothing to do with constipation and three other pediatricians in the area

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

[Guest guest]

has anyone ever seen problems with lactulose? My son is in more pain

now than before. Friday he had 2tblsp then I had to drop it to

1tblsp on Saturday and Sunday. He hasn't had explosive watery BM's

since Saturday morning. It's pebbles again and he was doubled over

in pain and sweating last night until he had a small BM. I'm waiting

for the GI to call me back I'm so nervous I want to cry with him. Do

I just demand the barium x-ray when he calls?

-- In miralax , jeanie ward wrote:

>

> usually when they are trying to diagnose a problem they do a

barium enema to rule out hershpruns and other possibilities, they

should never prescribe Miralax unless they know there are no

blockages but they do everyday..............just out of curiosity,

was you or your child exposed to antibiotics while pregnant or in

the first few weeks of life? Ususally vomiting is a sign of

blockage, which in his case could be just stool but they usually do

tests to find out if there's a problem.............have you ever

tried a probiotic instead of a laxative, my girlfriend has lupus and

was vomiting daily, it stopped completely when she started a

probiotic. This may not be the case with your son, but it's worth a

try, there's a reason he's so uncomfortable..................you

definetely need a second opinion and please read the FDA adverse

reaction sheets before giving miralax again....................

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/files/

> Jeanie

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> Subject: What is the cause of this???

> To: miralax

> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

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> My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep

> tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So

> 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick " in

the

> book " nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my

son

> had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach

upset.

> They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he

was

> severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of

mag

> and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two

weeks

> the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse.

I

> again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric

> gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do

1cap

> of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they

gave

> him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they

prescribed

> lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for

wheat

> and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS

FIND

> OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO

THEY

> JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT

TO)?

> HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD

BE

> FABULOUS

>

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sounds like he needs a stool softener, ask you pharmacist.........lactulose can cause gas pains, if they are pebbles, they must be hard. Doubled over in pain could be from the lactulose as well, I'd definitely try something else..............ex-lax?> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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here's a great product

http://www.4webmed.com/juiceplusfiber/---

Subject: Re: What is the cause of this???To: miralax Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 8:05 AM

has anyone ever seen problems with lactulose? My son is in more pain now than before. Friday he had 2tblsp then I had to drop it to 1tblsp on Saturday and Sunday. He hasn't had explosive watery BM's since Saturday morning. It's pebbles again and he was doubled over in pain and sweating last night until he had a small BM. I'm waiting for the GI to call me back I'm so nervous I want to cry with him. Do I just demand the barium x-ray when he calls? -- In miralax@yahoogroups .com, jeanie ward <dreamjeanie@ ...> wrote:>> usually when they are trying to diagnose a problem they do a barium enema to rule out hershpruns and other possibilities, they should never prescribe Miralax unless they know there are no blockages but they do everyday.... ......... .just out of curiosity, was you or your child exposed to

antibiotics while pregnant or in the first few weeks of life? Ususally vomiting is a sign of blockage, which in his case could be just stool but they usually do tests to find out if there's a problem..... ........have you ever tried a probiotic instead of a laxative, my girlfriend has lupus and was vomiting daily, it stopped completely when she started a probiotic. This may not be the case with your son, but it's worth a try, there's a reason he's so uncomfortable. ......... ........you definetely need a second opinion and please read the FDA adverse reaction sheets before giving miralax again....... ......... ....> http://health. groups.yahoo. com/group/ miralax/files/> Jeanie> > > > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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lactulose is a softener, though. i know the first couple of days we were on the lactulose my daughter had some cramps, but they went away. however, when we took more than 1/2 t a day (which is what we are on now - planning on cutting it out altogether), i would split her dose up - so, for example, would do 1/2 t in morning, and 1/2 t at night. seemed to help. so sorry he is having a hard time. i would for srue call the doc. dana

sounds like he needs a stool softener, ask you pharmacist.........lactulose can cause gas pains, if they are pebbles, they must be hard. Doubled over in pain could be from the lactulose as well, I'd definitely try something else..............ex-lax?

> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick " in

the > book " nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he

was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they

gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS

FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD

BE > FABULOUS>

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I am aware of what Lactulose is, there may be some ingredient in it causing him to double over.............that doesn't sound right> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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look up pfieffer treatment center, they have clinics all over the US, sounds like candida.

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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My daughter would say mommy I dont feel so well, and she would lay on the floor bent over. I felt so bad because when she was younger I had her on it for months and I didnt realize it was making her so sick.

> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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HELP QUICK! my son had an abdominalx-ray yesterday he is FULL of stool still. We had one done 4 weeks ago and he was FULL. We did MOM for 2 days then started miralax he vomited had severe cramps and went on an emotional rollercoaster (to name a few) we went to pediatric GI they gave him lactulose he again had severe cramps severe watery stool somewhere in between there they gave him an enema. AND HE IS STILL FULL!!!!!!!! The pediatric GI just told me I have two options give him FOUR CAPFULLS OF MIRALAX TODAY mixed with gatorade to clean him out or he has to go to the hospital and have a tube put up his nose and down into his intestines to get cleaned out. First of all what's the name of this procedure endoscopy? Do they ussually use that to clean someone out? I asked if I could use something different like MOM he told me it was like trying to shoot an elephant

with a beebee gun and miralax is my only option. I am scrambling trying to find another opinion these things seem to take time but I don't have much time to work with.> > From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@

....>> Subject: What is the cause of this???> To: miralax@yahoogroups .com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM> > > > > > > My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep > tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So > 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the > book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son > had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. > They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was > severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag > and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks > the vomiting became more

frequent and the pain became much worse. I > again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric > gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap > of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave > him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed > lactulose is it causing extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat > and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND > OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY > JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? > HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE > FABULOUS>

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HELP QUICK! my son had an abdominalx-ray yesterday he is FULL of stool still. We had one done 4 weeks ago and he was FULL. We did MOM for 2 days then started miralax he vomited had severe cramps and went on an emotional rollercoaster (to name a few) we went to pediatric GI they gave him lactulose he again had severe cramps severe watery stool somewhere in between there they gave him an enema. AND HE IS STILL FULL!!!!!!!! The pediatric GI just told me I have two options give him FOUR CAPFULLS OF MIRALAX TODAY mixed with gatorade to clean him out or he has to go to the hospital and have a tube put up his nose and down into his intestines to get cleaned out. First of all what's the name of this procedure endoscopy? Do they ussually use that to clean someone out? I asked if I could use something different like

MOM he told me it was like trying to shoot an elephant with a beebee gun and miralax is my only option. I am scrambling trying to find another opinion these things seem to take time but I don't have much time to work with.

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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We had the same problem with my son being extremely backed up via tests. We used a 2 prong approach - large doses of mag citrate to get it from the top end and 1 enema a day to get it from the bottom end. The GI had us start with 3 days, but we ended up having to do it for 5 days until he was having massive liquid blowouts and no more formed stool or rocks. Then we were able to back up on the mag dose and discontinue the enemas. It wasn't a fun time, but it did the job and we have managed his constipation ever since with magnesium citrate. I have also had good success with the enzyme No-Fenol to maintain soft but formed stools.

What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS

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thanks so much we have just armed ourselves at the drug store and I discussed the approach with the GI he still tried to convince me to use miralax. I hope this gets us out of danger and no horrible procedures need to be done. Did you have an additional x-ray done to determine if your son was cleaned out? Had he been on laxatives before tests confirmed he was completely backed up? I got an appointment at the Boston Children's Hospital in Massachusetts for second opinion

From: jesscloutier <jesscloutier@ yahoo.com>Subject: What is the cause of this???To: miralax@yahoogroups .comDate: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 9:49 AM

My son is 7 and has been constipated since birth. The doctors keep tellin me to giv more fiber and fluid and schedule toilet time. So 30grams of fiber and 30ounces of water and every other trick "in the book" nothing worked. I finally pitched a fit in the DR. office my son had been having random vomiting episodes and constant stomach upset. They told me he had a VIRUS:( I demanded an x-ray wich showed he was severly full of stool. We were instructed to do 2days of milk of mag and continue with 1cap of miralax every day. We did this for two weeks the vomiting became more frequent and the pain became much worse. I again pitched a fit and demanded a referal to a pediatric gastroenterologist. They gave me the referall but told me to do 1cap of miralax twice a day(BAD IDEA) we went to the doctor and they gave him an enema. A day later we saw the pediatric GI and they prescribed lactulose is it causing

extreme diharia. He has been tested for wheat and food allergies no prob there. AT WHAT POINT DO THE DOCTORS FIND OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THE EXTREME CONSTIPATION? DO THEY EVER OR DO THEY JUST TREAT THE SYMPTOMS? DO I PITCH ANOTHER FIT (NOT THAT I WANT TO)? HOW MUCH IS A SEVEN YEAR OLD SUPPOSE TO SUFFER? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE FABULOUS