Re: Liver pain, hot flashes

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Welcome..by the time I reply to this you might have already got your answer.

What you feel is pain in the liver is probably from an inflamed liver which

puts pressure on the sac surronding the liver. Actually every thing I've read

says the liver can not hurt. Hopes this helps

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Eddie

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And I thought I was having a bad day. Remember God loves you and so do We.

The most thoroughly wasted of all days is that which one has not laughed!

Eddie

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Debbie & --

At 04:44 PM 2/7/2004 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi don't feel alone I have the same problems. The pain, hotflashes

>and at times my face breaks out in a sweat. The doctors most of

>them just act like they don't believe me. I don't have any advise to

>give you. I just try to deal with it day by day and trust in God.

>But I did want you to know that your not alone.

Debbie--the only pain I had in my liver itself was after the biopsy, but

only for awhile (it was gone in a couple of hours). The shooting pains

actually sound more like gallbladder problems--but I'm certainly not a

dr.!! Maybe you can ask your dr. about it?

--I've had some pretty good luck with acupressure for working on

things that come up. My hcv isn't my only problem--I also have high blood

pressure, diverticulosis, a hiatal hernia, and they tell me I have

gallstones, although those have never bothered me. (They showed me

pictures, so it must be true!) So I do acupressure work daily to support

my liver, gallbladder, blood pressure and the hiatal hernia too. MOST of

it doesn't bother me for the most part--once in awhile I eat something that

I shouldn't and the divertic. kicks up.

A really good book for a real easy form of acupressure is " A Touch of

Healing " by Alice Burmeister. It does a good job of explaining how it

works, and showing how to hold your hands and where, etc. There are other

types of acupressure, but that one is my personal favorite.

Acupressure is pretty much like acupuncture, except there are no

needles. I've read in some places that acupressure predates

acupuncture. If true, it's been around even longer than acupuncture, which

I think has been in practice for hundreds of years (and now has a lot of

research to back up its effectiveness).

(Also--should mention, acupressure might help support folks through the

side effects of the interferon/etc. treatment, too, or so people have told me.)

Jeanne

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At 08:59 PM 2/7/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>As for the liver pain, I get that too, but not so much once I began eating

>better and drinking recommended herbal teas (like milk thistle and

>dandelion), using ONLY filtered water -- NOT tap water.

I use " tap " water, but I am soooo lucky: we live way out in the sticks, and

our " tap " water is wonderfully pure well water. Can't even buy it in a

bottle as good as this!

>I'm reading a book now about herbs and Hep C, the author has HC (not the

>guy who wrote Triumph, which I highly recommend). He's a certified

>herbalist -- his chapter on diet recommends giving your liver a break by

>eating a low fat diet, and (no news here) eliminating sugar, junk food,

>alcohol, dairy (fat content) -- substituting fresh (preferably organic)

>veggies and fruit,only using olive oil if you must use oil. He mentions

>the low fat approach often makes one hungry, since fat is filling. Also be

>aware that fat and sugar are in many foods, disguised by other names.

I have not eliminated dairy, but then again, I don't eat much of it

anyway. A few drops of milk in my coffee (gasp! Yes, coffee. Not even

decaf. But it IS highly laced with chicory, another healthful herb.), plus

a daily half-glass of kefir (to keep the intestinal flora and fauna in

balance) is about the extent of it. I also eat sugar, but in very low

amounts (I'd guess it would come to a couple of teaspoons a day, counting

what's included in some prepared foods). White flour products--some, but

not many: I'd say a half-slice of home made bread a couple times a

week. Shoot, we shouldn't be eating twinkies and yo-hos anyway, even if

there is NO hcv! But NO alcohol. If a recipe calls for it, I might

include it, but in a smaller amount than called for, and I make sure it's

cooked until only the flavor remains.

My philosophy? This is not a temporary situation for most of us, even if

the virus is apparently cleared. We're talking about a life-long food plan

here. If we entirely cut out everything they say we should, we're going to

get cravings. So for me, it works to tell myself, yes, you can have a bite

of that sweet roll (a BITE, not the whole thing), or a cup of coffee in the

morning, or a bit (bit, not whole carton) of sour cream on some dish I've

cooked.

Some would say--don't make the liver work too hard. Well, yes, that's good

to a point. But I think that giving it a LIGHT workout on occasion is good

for it too. That doesn't mean drink a fifth of alco-whatever whilst

woofing down a porkchop, fat and all. But give it a little something to do

now and then so it stays in the game--olive oil, as you have suggested, is

great for fat.

And throughout, people can support the liver by ensuring that it receives

the proper energy flow. I use acupressure and energy work for this. I can

personally feel the difference, especially if for some reason I skip a

day. Western medicine is gradually catching up to some of the technology

that's been around for centuries. Entire books, shoot, TOMES, have been

compiled on the research proving that these things

work--acupressure/puncture, hands-on healing, prayer, all of it. Herbs are

great, and it's a good start, but there really is more people can do to

help themselves.

Sometimes, it comes down to simply adding movement to their daily

routines--some types of movement are better than others, but anything that

gets the circulation revved up is going to help every part of the body,

including the liver. Breathing deeply is another rejuvenator. It doesn't

have to be a yogic breath precisely, just breathe so that it feels like

you're really filling up those lungs.

>I've noticed used copies of his book on Amazon.com for 10 bucks. The nice

>thing about his book is that he describes his journey, what worked, what

>didn't. And he'll respond to email, though it may take a few days.

I bought my copy from amazon.com from the " used " section, very

inexpensive. It arrived brand new, and autographed.

>Finally, if interferon works for you, and you (or your insurance can pay

>for it), more power to you. It just ain't for me, personally.

Not for me either. Every fiber of my being says it would probably be my

end. And I think I still have more to do in this world.

Jeanne

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