Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 My son potty trained while on Valtrex too. He still asks(he never asked before valtrex) for a pull up to poop (I think poop is still an issue because it’s always surrounded around pain and discomfort) in but he doesn’t even wear a pull up at night anymore. Plus he goes upstairs to the bathroom completely by himself now. We have not done any chelation yet so I know this was Valtrex. I also read many other parents post the same thing specifically about potty training. As for increasing the dose I don’t know. We are off at the moment due to resistant yeast. Congrats on the potty training, that’s huge! - From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of A_BIT_SOLUTIONS Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:47 AM To: mb12 valtrex Subject: Should I stop Valtrex? -- STAN? Anyone? Hello Stan (or anyone), My son (5.y.o., ASD) is on the Valtrex protocal (250 mg 3X) -- DAY 31. We are using Nizoral. In addition, my son has been chelating for 5.5 months (DMSA, AC protocal). He is also on Lupron for lowering testosterone. My boy has been maing good progress since chelating and Lupron. I have been reading of Valtrex and success stories sooooo --- in the spirit of 'not leaving any stone unturned', we added your Valtrex protocal. My boy has not regressed at all since being on Valtrex. No fevers -- nothing. Well we noticed a large, red pimple on his head -- buried in his hair. Is this a detox rash? Since adding Valtrex, my son is close to being potty-trained! This was impossible 6 months ago. Now, he can hold it in. We hardly use pull-ups now (only at night). He still does not indicate (no speech) when he has to go but we are working on that. However, we made so much progress in 4 weeks! Here's my question: Was the success due to Valtrex or the on-going chelation? Should I stop the Valtrex or keep going for 90 days? Should I increase to 1000mg/day? Thanks to all in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Don't change anything until potty training is completely done. So much progress in 4 weeks of Valtrex indicates it is probably helping. Your son is just lucky that he has not had a healing regression at all. The red pimple may be virus related or it could just be a mosquito bite or something else unrelated to the Valtrex. I would stay at 250 mg x 3 for the full 90 days. Quite a few kids experience no healing regression and still make good progress. Vance > > > Hello Stan (or anyone), > > My son (5.y.o., ASD) is on the Valtrex protocal (250 mg 3X) -- DAY > 31. We are using Nizoral. > > In addition, my son has been chelating for 5.5 months (DMSA, AC > protocal). He is also on Lupron for lowering testosterone. > > My boy has been maing good progress since chelating and Lupron. I > have been reading of Valtrex and success stories sooooo --- > in the spirit of 'not leaving any stone unturned', we added your > Valtrex protocal. > > My boy has not regressed at all since being on Valtrex. No fevers -- > nothing. Well we noticed a large, red pimple on his head -- buried in > his hair. Is this a detox rash? > > Since adding Valtrex, my son is close to being potty-trained! This > was impossible 6 months ago. Now, he can hold it in. We hardly use > pull-ups now (only at night). He still does not indicate (no speech) > when he has to go but we are working on that. However, we made so > much progress in 4 weeks! > > Here's my question: > > Was the success due to Valtrex or the on-going chelation? Should I > stop the Valtrex or keep going for 90 days? Should I increase to > 1000mg/day? > > Thanks to all in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 My son was dry before Valtrex, but only because we constantly asked him if he had to use the potty. He never self-initiated using the potty. Within 6 hours of our first dose of Valtrex, my son said " need to go pee pee " and has not had to be reminded since. He is dry at night now too. So, it may be the Valtrex. It was, most definitely, in our case. Anne > > > Hello Stan (or anyone), > > My son (5.y.o., ASD) is on the Valtrex protocal (250 mg 3X) -- DAY > 31. We are using Nizoral. > > In addition, my son has been chelating for 5.5 months (DMSA, AC > protocal). He is also on Lupron for lowering testosterone. > > My boy has been maing good progress since chelating and Lupron. I > have been reading of Valtrex and success stories sooooo --- > in the spirit of 'not leaving any stone unturned', we added your > Valtrex protocal. > > My boy has not regressed at all since being on Valtrex. No fevers -- > nothing. Well we noticed a large, red pimple on his head -- buried in > his hair. Is this a detox rash? > > Since adding Valtrex, my son is close to being potty-trained! This > was impossible 6 months ago. Now, he can hold it in. We hardly use > pull-ups now (only at night). He still does not indicate (no speech) > when he has to go but we are working on that. However, we made so > much progress in 4 weeks! > > Here's my question: > > Was the success due to Valtrex or the on-going chelation? Should I > stop the Valtrex or keep going for 90 days? Should I increase to > 1000mg/day? > > Thanks to all in advance. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 How do you know about the yeast? Do you actually see the yeast or is it just behavioral? Stacie RE: Should I stop Valtrex? -- STAN? Anyone? My son potty trained while on Valtrex too. He still asks(he never asked before valtrex) for a pull up to poop (I think poop is still an issue because it’s always surrounded around pain and discomfort) in but he doesn’t even wear a pull up at night anymore. Plus he goes upstairs to the bathroom completely by himself now. We have not done any chelation yet so I know this was Valtrex. I also read many other parents post the same thing specifically about potty training. As for increasing the dose I don’t know. We are off at the moment due to resistant yeast. Congrats on the potty training, that’s huge! - From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of A_BIT_SOLUTIONSSent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:47 AMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Should I stop Valtrex? -- STAN? Anyone? Hello Stan (or anyone),My son (5.y.o., ASD) is on the Valtrex protocal (250 mg 3X) -- DAY 31. We are using Nizoral.In addition, my son has been chelating for 5.5 months (DMSA, AC protocal). He is also on Lupron for lowering testosterone.My boy has been maing good progress since chelating and Lupron. I have been reading of Valtrex and success stories sooooo ---in the spirit of 'not leaving any stone unturned', we added your Valtrex protocal.My boy has not regressed at all since being on Valtrex. No fevers -- nothing. Well we noticed a large, red pimple on his head -- buried in his hair. Is this a detox rash?Since adding Valtrex, my son is close to being potty-trained! This was impossible 6 months ago. Now, he can hold it in. We hardly use pull-ups now (only at night). He still does not indicate (no speech) when he has to go but we are working on that. However, we made so much progress in 4 weeks!Here's my question:Was the success due to Valtrex or the on-going chelation? Should I stop the Valtrex or keep going for 90 days? Should I increase to 1000mg/day?Thanks to all in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Try SCD diet, if you can't poison the bad bacteria, starve them to death. Mo --- Chap 'n Ali wrote: > A lot of people including Stan have done really well > with Diflucan. With my > son it wasn't such a good fit. My DAN and I both > think he has too much > going on in his liver. It also never got rid of the > yeast for him although > we were only on it for a month. I am trying a host > of non prescription > stuff at the moment. Diflucan seems to be a winner > for the majority though. > Good luck, > > > > _____ > > From: mb12 valtrex > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On > Behalf Of Stacie Matson > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:04 PM > To: mb12 valtrex > Subject: Re: Should I stop Valtrex? -- > STAN? Anyone? > > > > Thank you for responding! My son's stools have been > a bit lighter, but I > haven't noticed a distended belly. I am waiting to > hear back from my doctor > regarding starting another cycle of antifungals. > Would you get Diflucan over > the others available? > > RE: Should I stop Valtrex? -- > STAN? Anyone? > > > > Stacie, > > Abid is right I do get the stool analysis. But > I have been waiting to > send off the next stool because I can actually tell > by his stool. With my > son the loose stool, a little lighter in color is > always an indicator. Plus > behaviors are a key as well as distended belly. > Right now it's by the stool > because his behaviors are getting better so the > homeopath mold/yeast/dusk > remedy seems to be working some. I never really had > a handle on the " yeast > clues " until we had total breakdown. Now I can > recognize it a mile off. > - > > > > > _____ > > > > > > _____ > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > PC-to-Phone > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> call rates. > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm confused. Is Diflucan an antibacterial or antifungal? And, is the bad bacteria the yeast? RE: Should I stop Valtrex? --> STAN? Anyone?> > > > Stacie,> > Abid is right I do get the stool analysis. But> I have been waiting to> send off the next stool because I can actually tell> by his stool. With my> son the loose stool, a little lighter in color is> always an indicator. Plus> behaviors are a key as well as distended belly. > Right now it's by the stool> because his behaviors are getting better so the> homeopath mold/yeast/dusk> remedy seems to be working some. I never really had> a handle on the "yeast> clues" until we had total breakdown. Now I can> recognize it a mile off.> - > > > > > _____ > > > > > > _____ > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low> PC-to-Phone><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt> =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> call rates.> > ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt> =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt> =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Can you suggest some non-prescriptions that are helping with the yeast? I am heading to the health food store this afternoon to get some to help my wild and crazy guy. Thanks, How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 grapefruit seed extract catjam34 wrote: Can you suggest some non-prescriptions that are helping with the yeast? I am heading to the health food store this afternoon to get some to help my wild and crazy guy. Thanks, How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Oreganol P73, there are several studies done and published in their website, it worked great for me and my kids. check it out. http://www.p-73.com/default.asp AL. Can you suggest some non- prescriptions that are helping with the yeast? I am heading to the health food store this afternoon to get some to help my wild and crazy guy. > > Thanks, > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I don't knowit is bacterial but I strongly suspect it. He does not have his typical yeast symptoms of nightwakings, loose stools and distended belly. He is extremel moody, throwing tantrums, kicking his legs, screaming and is itchy in varoius places sometimes w/rashes. His DAN suspected yeast but given that Diflucan does not seem to be helping, I am thinking bacteria, which is often associatd w/aggresiveness/frustration. DR --------- RE: Should I stop Valtrex? -- > > > > > STAN? Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacie, > > > > > > > > > > Abid is right I do get the stool analysis. But > > > > > I have been waiting to > > > > > send off the next stool because I can actually tell > > > > > by his stool. With my > > > > > son the loose stool, a little lighter in color is > > > > > always an indicator. Plus > > > > > behaviors are a key as well as distended belly. > > > > > Right now it's by the stool > > > > > because his behaviors are getting better so the > > > > > homeopath mold/yeast/dusk > > > > > remedy seems to be working some. I never really had > > > > > a handle on the " yeast > > > > > clues " until we had total breakdown. Now I can > > > > > recognize it a mile off. > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > > > > > PC-to-Phone > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > > com/evt > > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > > com/evt > > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > > com/evt > > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Thanks for responding. I just got some oil of oregano and I have grapefruit seed extract already. I have ultra flora DF for a probiotic to try to balance the gut. I am interested in reading about VSL#3 and wonder about rotating the probiotics with the antifungals. It's easy to do on the weekends but more tricky during the week when Ronan goes to school--everything thing goes in the sippy cup: enzymes and minerals--how do I add the other supps and time them 2 hours away from each other? Always ready to read more and learn more, > > grapefruit seed extract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 He does sound very irritable. My son was on an antibiotic for awhile for a bacterial infection. It did seem to help, but we told our doctor that he was crying for no reason. It definitely helped with what we thought was pain of some kind. My son is totally nonverbal, so lots of guessing and praying. I have had Herpes virus for many years with no outbreaks until after giving birth. Then, I couldn't get rid of the symtoms, which were mainly feeling VERY IRRITABLE. My doctor put me on Valtrex and it took over a week for it to kick in. I take it every day. With these little kids, the Valtrex must be bringing out the viruses, huh? The emails I've read have shown this - rashes, fever, etc. My son tested negative for virals, so we haven't done Valtrex with him. My son, after three months of Ca-EDTA suppositories, actually said a few spontaneous words this week. With any of these treatments - it seems to be very slow in helping. One thing I did recently, was take him off TMG, which had an immediate effect. Someone had written that it is difficult to tolerate if on B12 shots. I was amazed at how much he calmed down. . . . Stacie RE: Should I stop Valtrex? --> > > STAN? Anyone?> > > > > > > > > > > > Stacie,> > > > > > Abid is right I do get the stool analysis. But> > > I have been waiting to> > > send off the next stool because I can actually tell> > > by his stool. With my> > > son the loose stool, a little lighter in color is> > > always an indicator. Plus> > > behaviors are a key as well as distended belly. > > > Right now it's by the stool> > > because his behaviors are getting better so the> > > homeopath mold/yeast/dusk> > > remedy seems to be working some. I never really had> > > a handle on the "yeast> > > clues" until we had total breakdown. Now I can> > > recognize it a mile off.> > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low> > > PC-to-Phone> > >> > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.> com/evt> > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> call rates.> > > > > > > > >> > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.> com/evt> > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > >> > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.> com/evt> > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 DR- Can you share where (what sites) you got the info on bacteria. My son has had a similar reaction and it doesn't seem like yeast to me. I appreciate your help. Molly > > > > > > > A lot of people including Stan have done really well > > > > with Diflucan. With my > > > > son it wasn't such a good fit. My DAN and I both > > > > think he has too much > > > > going on in his liver. It also never got rid of the > > > > yeast for him although > > > > we were only on it for a month. I am trying a host > > > > of non prescription > > > > stuff at the moment. Diflucan seems to be a winner > > > > for the majority though. > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > From: mb12 valtrex > > > > [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On > > > > Behalf Of Stacie Matson > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:04 PM > > > > To: mb12 valtrex > > > > Subject: Re: Should I stop Valtrex? -- > > > > STAN? Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for responding! My son's stools have been > > > > a bit lighter, but I > > > > haven't noticed a distended belly. I am waiting to > > > > hear back from my doctor > > > > regarding starting another cycle of antifungals. > > > > Would you get Diflucan over > > > > the others available? > > > > > > > > RE: Should I stop Valtrex? -- > > > > STAN? Anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacie, > > > > > > > > Abid is right I do get the stool analysis. But > > > > I have been waiting to > > > > send off the next stool because I can actually tell > > > > by his stool. With my > > > > son the loose stool, a little lighter in color is > > > > always an indicator. Plus > > > > behaviors are a key as well as distended belly. > > > > Right now it's by the stool > > > > because his behaviors are getting better so the > > > > homeopath mold/yeast/dusk > > > > remedy seems to be working some. I never really had > > > > a handle on the " yeast > > > > clues " until we had total breakdown. Now I can > > > > recognize it a mile off. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > > > > PC-to-Phone > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > com/evt > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > com/evt > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman8/*http:/us.rd.yahoo. > > com/evt > > > > =39663/*http:/voice.yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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