Re: Animals as food

July 15, 2010

Having raised goats and chickens (as well as horses, cats, dogs,

tropical fish), I have come to appreciate the consciousness residing

in all beings. Even my Angel fish could recognize the difference

between me and my husband, as hard to believe as that may sound. And

when they were raising a brood of babies and we left them in the care

of my brother, they were so traumatized at not recognizing the person

feeding them that they devoured their babies! I could tell you other

similar stories. At one time I decided to become a vegetarian

because of my growing awareness of how conscious animals were. I've

tried not to get attached to the chickens, for example. But it

doesn't matter--I may not view them as pets, but I still can not

divorce myself from feeling the awful responsibility of taking their

lives. There came a day when I started learning about the

consciousness residing in plants and I was faced with the dilemma of

what I could eat to survive. I decided to accept the fact that I

needed some " distance " from the animals and plants that fed me--a

distance greater than not viewing them as " pets " . So I now do eat

meat, and plants, but no longer try to force myself to do my own

slaughtering (though I do still garden). I highly recommend the book

" Animals in Translation " by Temple Grandin i(http://www.grandin.com/

inc/animals.in.translation.html) f you decide to do your own

slaughtering. She has helped to change the ways that animals are

being slaughtered across this country, contributing greatly their

having much more humane slaughtering. Her insights have influenced

large corporations as well as the smaller growers. Well worth the read.

Mara

> But if I raised meaties I would not become attached or treat them

> like pets as I do my eggers. Ditto for meat goats. A dairy goat

> would become a pet for sure, but not a billy being raised for meat.

> It would be just too hard to kill one for meat if it had become a

> pet, in my case.

July 15, 2010

There are many who think it's an abomination to eat the flesh of animals. I was

raised hunting and eating meat and no matter how hard I try to become a

vegetarian there are times when my body just needs [not craves] meat. I believe

the way my ancestors did about killing and eating meats. Sometimes it's

necessary for survival and we should honor and bless the gift these animals give

us. I feel terrible about the inhumane way most animals are treated so as to

feed us and always ask forgiveness for the way they were treated so I may be

fed. Since I cannot afford to buy grass fed or free range animal meat the best I

can do is honor their sacrifice and eat as little meat as possible.

I have read the studies about how plants have feelings and spirits too so in my

opinion we should also honor their gift.

I do not feel guilty about consuming plants and animals because this is the way

our world works if we are to survive...I mainly feel guilty for the way they are

treated so I can be nourished. I believe if we live with an attitude of

gratitude then all will be well.

Sandy

> But if I raised meaties I would not become attached or treat them

> like pets as I do my eggers. Ditto for meat goats. A dairy goat

> would become a pet for sure, but not a billy being raised for meat.

> It would be just too hard to kill one for meat if it had become a

> pet, in my case.

July 15, 2010

Meat tastes good.

Brewer

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> But if I raised meaties I would not become attached or treat them

> like pets as I do my eggers. Ditto for meat goats. A dairy goat

> would become a pet for sure, but not a billy being raised for meat.

> It would be just too hard to kill one for meat if it had become a

> pet, in my case.

July 15, 2010

It is a complex subject - one which is entirely individual in choice. All i

was saying really was about 18 years ago there was a big push here to breed

emus for oil & all their other bits and I saw it as a totally unnecessary

commercial venture, beef, pigs and sheep are grown for their meat and have

been for hundreds of years - I can't see the need for any other creatures to

be killed for their meat - reading a book by Shapiro where a

channeled message from cattle declared their willing sacrifice for human

nourishment gave me another slant on the issue too - but as Garnet says the

cruelly in the slaughter is not only horrendous but also must to a certain

extent feed the fear in the consumer, and now we have the dreadful and

unnatural feed and housing many of these dear creatures are subject to - the

whole scenario gets worse and worse. As well as emus the " sophisticated "

Australian relishes the kangaroo, wallaby, wombat, possum, crocodile, and

goodness knows what else as I understand it. If I see any of my native

friends on a menu I will not enter that restaurant.

I have cooked in a Rudolf Steiner kitchen and know the love and good

intention that goes into the bio-dynamic food preparation for the students.

Perhaps the young do need a certain amount of animal protein, tho some of my

friends have been vegetarian from birth, eggs, cheese and milk offer a good

supply of protein without any creature suffering. (Organically or

bio-dynamically produced that is.) Personally I broke away from my meat

eating family tradition at 15 and became vegetarian officially, cooking my

food separately with the authentic " vegetarian " label after heaving my way

reluctantly through meat for the years before that.

Perhaps some humans do need meat - for myself I believe I can eat only

vegetables and fruit and dairy and not suffer any ill effect.

The highest evolved beings on the planet are known to eat only what is

offered in fruits or nuts to be found on the ground beneath the trees, if

they eat at all. I have heard first hand of such people. Suffering has to

be reduced on the planet and we all have our own way of helping to doing

this.

Jane

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth

~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

There are many who think it's an abomination to eat the flesh of animals. I

was raised hunting and eating meat and no matter how hard I try to become a

vegetarian there are times when my body just needs [not craves] meat. I

believe the way my ancestors did about killing and eating meats. Sometimes

it's necessary for survival and we should honor and bless the gift these

animals give us. I feel terrible about the inhumane way most animals are

treated so as to feed us and always ask forgiveness for the way they were

treated so I may be fed. Since I cannot afford to buy grass fed or free

range animal meat the best I can do is honor their sacrifice and eat as

little meat as possible.

I have read the studies about how plants have feelings and spirits too so in

my opinion we should also honor their gift.

I do not feel guilty about consuming plants and animals because this is the

way our world works if we are to survive...I mainly feel guilty for the way

they are treated so I can be nourished. I believe if we live with an

attitude of gratitude then all will be well.