Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users be affected?

[Guest guest]

Where did you see the part about the pigs? I read the article, but I don't

see this, only about the chickens.

Tx

bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users be

affected?

> been reading about bird flu for weeks. it's affecting pigs in Asia.

> Here's just one of several articles I've read.

>

> http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2004-01/15/content_299140.htm

>

> i don't want to scare or upset anyone, but I do have questions and

> concerns.

>

> could those of us taking Armour be affected?

>

> maybe I should just write the manufacturer of Armour to get the

> scoop???

>

> sorry if I upset anyone, but this has been on my mind for weeks.

> sheila

[Guest guest]

Ok, we probably need to go back onto the ArmourThyroid site to see how it is that they make the Armour. It's been so long since I read it (a yr ago), that I don't remember very much about it. I don't know what kind of purification process they would have, but surely it would be, since it is an FDA regulated prescription drug. I wouldn't think that they would just be allowed to go out and capture wild pigs, with no regulation. This is where a brand name might make a VERY big difference. My co-partner, other site owner has talked to Forrest Pharmaceuticals about all these processes because she is very selective about the drugs that she takes. She has kept up contact with them forever, since she began taking this drug sometime back, so I know that she would know the details of these things.

Tx

Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users be affected?

Sorry, ...I posted the wrong link. Here's the article where it talks about bird flu being passed onto pigs.

Animals Play Key Role in Flu PandemicsThu 15 January, 2004 03:17

By Fogarty SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Flu outbreaks have killed tens of millions of people around the globe over the past century, and scientists are investigating if the deaths of three people in Vietnam from bird flu could be the start of a new pandemic. In most pandemics, animals such as chickens, pigs or even cows have played a role in creating deadly new strains of influenza viruses for which humans have no immunity. That is what is alarming scientists in Asia after an outbreak of bird flu has killed millions of poultry in Vietnam, South Korea and Japan. The World Health Organization says 18 people in Vietnam are suspected to have been infected with bird flu, including the three confirmed infections. But the WHO stresses there is a lack of evidence of human-to-human transmission in Vietnam. The case resembles an outbreak of bird flu in Hong Kong in 1997 when 18 people were infected with avian influenza virus A (H5N1), six of whom died. That outbreak did not spread because the virus could not pass from one human to another. The slaughter of 1.5 million chickens in the crowded city also prevented more deaths of people. The danger is when a new virus can cross from person to person. Animals play a key role here because they become breeding grounds for new strains of flu that contain changes in the genetic structure that the human immune system cannot recognize. According to the science journal Nature, flu viruses originate in wild birds and are thought to become lethal when they cross into poultry or pigs. In cells infected with another flu variety, the viruses pick up genes that enable them to infect humans. This can also happen, it is thought, in cows. COUGHING PIGS According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, pigs can be infected with human and avian influenza viruses in addition to swine influenza viruses. Infected pigs get symptoms similar to humans, such as cough, fever and runny nose. Because pigs are susceptible to a variety of flu viruses, they potentially may be infected with viruses from different species, such as ducks and humans, at the same time. If this happens, it is possible for the genes of these viruses to mix and create a new virus. In Vietnam, hundreds of pigs have also died of flu. Dr Chan, head of the microbiology and parasitology department at the University of the Philippines' College of Medicine, said on Wednesday humans would have no protection against a new strain of flu. "We should worry. It kills. It kills," she told Reuters. Scientists say major flu pandemics occur every 30-35 years. The deadliest in the past century was the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-19 that killed between 20 million and 50 million people worldwide, including 500,000 in the United States. The exact source of this virulent strain is unknown but is thought to have been wild birds. The virus behind the last major flu outbreak, the Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968, is thought to have originated with wild aquatic birds such as ducks. Nature journal reported last year that the next killer influenza strain might leap directly from ducks to humans. Influenza strains in domestic ducks have already acquired genes from poultry viruses, researchers found, and may have the potential to invade human cells. "It's getting closer to one that can spread," said influenza expert Lamb of Northwestern University in ton, Illinois, in a June 5, 2003, report in Nature. The viruses, known as H9N2, probably jumped from wild birds into poultry, swapped genes with influenza strains there, and then migrated back into ducks, Nature said. The WHO and other major health bodies have sent experts to Vietnam to investigate the latest outbreak and how it is spreading. They will be looking closely at whether wild birds have spread the avian flu virus around the region. Here's the link to this article:

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews & storyID=4129883 & section=news

[Guest guest]

> been reading about bird flu for weeks. it's affecting pigs in

Asia.

> i don't want to scare or upset anyone, but I do have questions and

> concerns.

> could those of us taking Armour be affected?>>

>

Yes, I had heard a radio show about this virus and they mentioned

that pigs (and one other animal) are the ones who pass it on to

humans. There was a name for it (transmitter something??)... I can't

remember. Pigs area special kind of carrier.

Someone I know who takes another thyroid drug from pigs, called the

drug manufactuer. They assured her that they only us Amercian pigs.

But it brings up an interesting issue - since something like 75% of

our disease come from animals, what about medications that are made

from animals?. What are the risk factors? We need to ask these

questions.

Vancouver

[Guest guest]

Do we not have laws in place with our FDA, in the manufacture of drugs, for

certain purification procedures (not that I totally trust the FDA either!)

for regulated prescription drugs?

Tx

Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users

be affected?

>

> > been reading about bird flu for weeks. it's affecting pigs in

> Asia.

> > i don't want to scare or upset anyone, but I do have questions and

> > concerns.

> > could those of us taking Armour be affected?>>

> >

>

> Yes, I had heard a radio show about this virus and they mentioned

> that pigs (and one other animal) are the ones who pass it on to

> humans. There was a name for it (transmitter something??)... I can't

> remember. Pigs area special kind of carrier.

>

> Someone I know who takes another thyroid drug from pigs, called the

> drug manufactuer. They assured her that they only us Amercian pigs.

>

> But it brings up an interesting issue - since something like 75% of

> our disease come from animals, what about medications that are made

> from animals?. What are the risk factors? We need to ask these

> questions.

>

>

> Vancouver

[Guest guest]

That's the thing-----We now have infected cows (or cow, i.e., probably more). My mind can't stretch any further! My adrenals are trying to recover from former stresses, now this! How do we even know how we got our thyroid disease? I'm thinking that some of us breathed in all kinds of chemicals (Dow Chemical, i.e., the Gulf Coast), our foods, fluoride, life stressors. If the Armour gets involved, I think I'll sign up for the moon.

Tx

Re: Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users be affected?

i have no idea, , what kind of purification procedures may be used by the FDA. that's why I want to know more.

I'm sure when I call or write them, they'll tell me there's no way I could get Asian Bird Flu from a pig which might have had it and no one knew the pig was sick.

I doubt they get their pigs from Asia, but, you know, I just don't know, and I want to find out.

what if a pig had just gotten infected and no one knew. What if that same pig found it's way into my body via my medication?

maybe I'm a worry-wort, but I really do want to find out the answers to these questions...just to put my mind at ease.

know what I mean??

hugs, sheila

[Guest guest]

<< How do we even know how we got our thyroid disease? >>

What if the pig that produced your thyroid hormone had a thyroid

disease? (!!). Thyroid disease is rampant among animals. But not

like they are lining up for T3 and T4 testing... :-)

<<I'm thinking that some of us breathed in all kinds of chemicals

(Dow Chemical, i.e., the Gulf Coast), our foods, fluoride, life

stressors. >>.

GM food, acid rain, alien invasions....

<<If the Armour gets involved, I think I'll sign up for the moon.>>

Hmmm... I would head for Mars - least there's water there...

Vancouver

[Guest guest]

My point was that we can spend every minute of every day wondering.

Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users

be affected?

> << How do we even know how we got our thyroid disease? >>

>

> What if the pig that produced your thyroid hormone had a thyroid

> disease? (!!). Thyroid disease is rampant among animals. But not

> like they are lining up for T3 and T4 testing... :-)

>

> <<I'm thinking that some of us breathed in all kinds of chemicals

> (Dow Chemical, i.e., the Gulf Coast), our foods, fluoride, life

> stressors. >>.

>

> GM food, acid rain, alien invasions....

>

> <<If the Armour gets involved, I think I'll sign up for the moon.>>

>

> Hmmm... I would head for Mars - least there's water there...

>

>

> Vancouver

[Guest guest]

> My point was that we can spend every minute of every day wondering.

>

Ummm - yeah, I got it!

Vancouver

[Guest guest]

Why would you want to spend every minute of every day wondering

about it?

> > My point was that we can spend every minute of every day

wondering.

> >

>

> Ummm - yeah, I got it!

>

>

> Vancouver

[Guest guest]

That's right, with all the stressors that thyroid patients already have, why

would I?

Tx

Re: bird flu being passed onto pigs-can Armour users

be affected?

> Why would you want to spend every minute of every day wondering

> about it?

>

>

> > > My point was that we can spend every minute of every day

> wondering.

> > >

> >

> > Ummm - yeah, I got it!

> >

> >

> > Vancouver