Re: neuro for physical issues

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,

Good suggestion. I'm leaning toward this.

Nan

--- A wrote:

> Nan,

>

> If you are worried about training poorly one of your

> " best bets " is to do a TLC assessment and let Pete

> VDN set you up with his 123 approach. That way you

> don't need to worry about not knowing what you are

> doing, and can get to the benefits part right away.

>

> ~ A

>

>

> Re: neuro for physical

> issues

>

>

> Hi ,

> Thanks for sharing your experience. Vertigo is so

> damned tricky. But, from one who knows, thank your

> lucky stars it was NOT an acoustic neuroma. I'm

> sure

> you've heard of all the other possible

> causes...Meniere's, Benign (don't you love that

> word?!) Paroxymal Positional Vertigo--loose

> crystals

> in the ear, viral labyrinthitis, etc. etc.

>

> I very much appreciate your info on neuro

> settings.

> As a matter of fact, the person who interpreted my

> QEEG said to train at T6, 12-15, inhibit at 4-11

> and

> 22-30. There were 3 recommended areas to work, and

> this was one.

>

> Thanks for the support on doing this on my own.

> I'm

> somewhat paranoid, intimidated by the science, and

> that I might " nuke " myself or treat areas the

> wrong

> way. recommended a book to read, so

> will

> probably get that to inform myself.

>

> I think my current practitioner would supervise

> me,

> though he is not the most expert but closest to

> me.

> Many want the money from the treatments, so are

> not as

> inclined. This guy is a good human, and really

> wants

> me to get help.

>

> Thanks again, your story and info were helpful.

> Nan

>

> --- Hill wrote:

>

> > Hi Nan,

> >

> > I have some bouts of vertigo that have been

> labeled

> > idiopathic (no

> > known cause) that started off very disabling for

> the

> > first couple of

> > months, and now usually remain sub-acute unless

> I

> > get extremely

> > overtired, or do things that otherwise affect

> > balance (like drinking

> > too much alcohol - i tend to not be drunk, but

> > stagger around after 2

> > drinks). That being said, a few times a year the

> > problem just

> > resurfaces for some reason.

> >

> > I've had multiple MRIs, pivot chair tests, etc

> etc

> > etc - nobody could

> > tell me why I had this except that it was 'very

> > unusual', i.e. not

> > due to an acoustic neuroma. I was lucky enough

> to

> > have my problem

> > subside on it's own after about 10 weeks, and it

> > flares up a few

> > times a year. I found that rewarding 13-16hz,

> > inhibiting 4-7 (or

> > 2-6) and 14-30 at T5-T6 tends to arrest the

> flare-up

> > and dramatically

> > stabilize the world when I get this way. Your

> > mileage may vary, but

> > it's probably worth trying! Have you had a QEEG

> > done, or a simpler

> > TLC assessment?

> >

> > In terms of doing it yourself - why not? It's

> not

> > rocket science

> > A couple of books and resources like this

> mailing

> > list is really all

> > you need, with some good self-observation and

> > record-keeping.

> >

> > If you have a reasonably good computer you can

> get a

> > bundle including

> > a Pendant EEG, electrodes, and BioExplorer

> software

> > for around $1200

> > from pocket-neurobics.com. If your vertigo is

> > anything like mine

> > was, even getting out of the house to go get

> trained

> > is a major

> > trial. Good record keeping and motivated

> learning

> > on your part will

> > probably be worth as much as a professional

> training

> > you - and

> > perhaps with faster results since you can train

> > every day.

> >

> > You can probably also find a professional to

> > remotely supervise if

> > you want, for less than the expensive office

> visits.

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Best,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > ,

> > > You're are right on the money.

> Constant/disabling

> > > dizziness, a sensation of movement in my head

> at

> > all

> > > times. Briefly, I got off a cruise, rough

> scuba

> > dive

> > > and plane trip and never regained my " land

> legs. "

> > > They found a tumor in inner ear called

> acoustic

> > > neuroma, did surgery, and balance

> nerve/hearing

> > nerves

> > > severed and removed in one ear. The brain/body

> is

> > > supposed to compensate for the loss, but mine

> > hasn't.

> > > An expert in Chicago said I actually have/had

> two

> > > conditions: a rare motion-sickness type of

> > syndrome,

> > > and now no balance function on right side. The

> > > surgery made my condition worse. I have tried

> > every

> > > type of alternative therapy, with no success.

> > >

> > > I've done the QEEG, am seeing a practitioner

> here

> > in

> > > Bellingham, WA, who doesn't do a lot of neuro

> but

> > is

> > > very methodical. I've only had one treatment.

> > > Exhausting for me, in large part because I

> have

> > > nystagmus from dizziness (involuntary eye

> > movement).

> > >

> > > Probably more than you wanted to know! But I'm

> > > interested in anyone who had or knows of

> nervous

> > > system issues for whom neuro has helped.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your message.

> > > Nan

> > >

> > > --- gary martin wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > > Nan:

> > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi, -

Sounds like you did your homework. The fact that you

found some training that worked is great!

Good points on trying different approaches--I'm sure

I'd know if I did something wrong! Have you ever

attended any of the workshops for training? I'm

somewhat of an information person, so might help.

Also might see if I can hook up with Pete.

Thanks again,

Nan

--- Hill wrote:

> hi Nan,

>

> ya, thanks - i ruled out all the other causes, like

> Meniers, BPPS,

> etc. - i have a hunch that it's due to some very

> mild cerebellar

> damage that doesn't show on an MRI, but that's just

> a guess. i'm not

> sure why parietal/temporal training would help that,

> either (in

> theory there should be little to no effect directly,

> so probably some

> thalamic loop is being affected).

>

> the higher frequency i suggested rewarding IS a

> little bit higher

> than most people would try at the posterior. but

> the beauty of nfb

> is that you can try something and actually see what

> happens

>

> regarding " nuking " yourself - one good thing about

> nfb is that you

> generally have to do more than one session to make

> an effect last.

> so if you do something that is WAY off, and you end

> up crawling

> around the floor for a day or two, just don't repeat

> that exact

> protocol (or that length of training) and your brain

> should swing

> back to were it was pre-training. if you DO get a

> good effect, then

> you can wash, rinse, repeat to get the effect to

> last.

>

> good luck!!

>

> cheers,

> andrew

>

>

>

> > Hi ,

> > Thanks for sharing your experience. Vertigo is so

> > damned tricky. But, from one who knows, thank

> your

> > lucky stars it was NOT an acoustic neuroma. I'm

> sure

> > you've heard of all the other possible

> > causes...Meniere's, Benign (don't you love that

> > word?!) Paroxymal Positional Vertigo--loose

> crystals

> > in the ear, viral labyrinthitis, etc. etc.

> >

> > I very much appreciate your info on neuro

> settings.

> > As a matter of fact, the person who interpreted my

> > QEEG said to train at T6, 12-15, inhibit at 4-11

> and

> > 22-30. There were 3 recommended areas to work,

> and

> > this was one.

> >

> > Thanks for the support on doing this on my own.

> I'm

> > somewhat paranoid, intimidated by the science, and

> > that I might " nuke " myself or treat areas the

> wrong

> > way. recommended a book to read, so

> will

> > probably get that to inform myself.

> >

> > I think my current practitioner would supervise

> me,

> > though he is not the most expert but closest to

> me.

> > Many want the money from the treatments, so are

> not as

> > inclined. This guy is a good human, and really

> wants

> > me to get help.

> >

> > Thanks again, your story and info were helpful.

> > Nan

> >

> > --- Hill wrote:

> >

> >> Hi Nan,

> >>

> >> I have some bouts of vertigo that have been

> labeled

> >> idiopathic (no

> >> known cause) that started off very disabling for

> the

> >> first couple of

> >> months, and now usually remain sub-acute unless I

> >> get extremely

> >> overtired, or do things that otherwise affect

> >> balance (like drinking

> >> too much alcohol - i tend to not be drunk, but

> >> stagger around after 2

> >> drinks). That being said, a few times a year the

> >> problem just

> >> resurfaces for some reason.

> >>

> >> I've had multiple MRIs, pivot chair tests, etc

> etc

> >> etc - nobody could

> >> tell me why I had this except that it was 'very

> >> unusual', i.e. not

> >> due to an acoustic neuroma. I was lucky enough

> to

> >> have my problem

> >> subside on it's own after about 10 weeks, and it

> >> flares up a few

> >> times a year. I found that rewarding 13-16hz,

> >> inhibiting 4-7 (or

> >> 2-6) and 14-30 at T5-T6 tends to arrest the

> flare-up

> >> and dramatically

> >> stabilize the world when I get this way. Your

> >> mileage may vary, but

> >> it's probably worth trying! Have you had a QEEG

> >> done, or a simpler

> >> TLC assessment?

> >>

> >> In terms of doing it yourself - why not? It's

> not

> >> rocket science

> >> A couple of books and resources like this mailing

> >> list is really all

> >> you need, with some good self-observation and

> >> record-keeping.

> >>

> >> If you have a reasonably good computer you can

> get a

> >> bundle including

> >> a Pendant EEG, electrodes, and BioExplorer

> software

> >> for around $1200

> >> from pocket-neurobics.com. If your vertigo is

> >> anything like mine

> >> was, even getting out of the house to go get

> trained

> >> is a major

> >> trial. Good record keeping and motivated

> learning

> >> on your part will

> >> probably be worth as much as a professional

> training

> >> you - and

> >> perhaps with faster results since you can train

> >> every day.

> >>

> >> You can probably also find a professional to

> >> remotely supervise if

> >> you want, for less than the expensive office

> visits.

> >>

> >> Good luck!

> >>

> >> Best,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>> ,

> >>> You're are right on the money.

> Constant/disabling

> >>> dizziness, a sensation of movement in my head at

> >> all

> >>> times. Briefly, I got off a cruise, rough scuba

> >> dive

> >>> and plane trip and never regained my " land

> legs. "

> >>> They found a tumor in inner ear called acoustic

> >>> neuroma, did surgery, and balance nerve/hearing

> >> nerves

> >>> severed and removed in one ear. The brain/body

> is

> >>> supposed to compensate for the loss, but mine

> >> hasn't.

> >>> An expert in Chicago said I actually have/had

> two

> >>> conditions: a rare motion-sickness type of

> >> syndrome,

> >>> and now no balance function on right side. The

> >>> surgery made my condition worse. I have tried

> >> every

> >>> type of alternative therapy, with no success.

> >>>

> >>> I've done the QEEG, am seeing a practitioner

> here

> >> in

> >>> Bellingham, WA, who doesn't do a lot of neuro

> but

> >> is

> >>> very methodical. I've only had one treatment.

> >>> Exhausting for me, in large part because I have

>

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