Bad news for land Lyme doctors and patients

[Guest guest]

The problem with challenging this in court is financing a protracted

legal battle.

Electing legislators that will support alternative medicine is an option

open to all of us.

As well as communicating with our legislators who are in office now to

let them know that

we will not support them in future elections if they do not represent

our interests. Letters are

inexpensive. But it does take time and thought. So does illness.

Garnet

Pinki62 wrote:

>

> What about the 9th Amendment? It is clearly written that we have the

> right to pursue options even when they are not part of the mainstream

> way of thinking. I would definitely challenge this based on the 9th

> Amendment, if I lived in MD and had someone telling me how I should be

> doctoring.

>

> Lyne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very true Garnet, but there have been quite a few challenges over the years

based on the 9th Amendment. I know that very few people can afford to bring on

this type of legal battle on their own, but don't forget about the ACLU and

other non-profit citizen groups that help support people's right to choose.

Lyne

________________________________

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 12:57:17 PM

Subject: Re: Bad news for land Lyme doctors and patients

The problem with challenging this in court is financing a protracted

legal battle.

Electing legislators that will support alternative medicine is an option

open to all of us.

As well as communicating with our legislators who are in office now to

let them know that

we will not support them in future elections if they do not represent

our interests. Letters are

inexpensive. But it does take time and thought. So does illness.

Garnet

Pinki62 wrote:

>

> What about the 9th Amendment? It is clearly written that we have the

> right to pursue options even when they are not part of the mainstream

> way of thinking. I would definitely challenge this based on the 9th

> Amendment, if I lived in MD and had someone telling me how I should be

> doctoring.

>

> Lyne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I assume there are people working with this issue through these

various action groups.

Garnet

Pinki62 wrote:

>

> Very true Garnet, but there have been quite a few challenges over the

> years based on the 9th Amendment. I know that very few people can

> afford to bring on this type of legal battle on their own, but don't

> forget about the ACLU and other non-profit citizen groups that help

> support people's right to choose.

>

> Lyne

>

> ________________________________

> From: Garnet_LDN <garnet_ldn@...

> <mailto:garnet_ldn%40austin.rr.com>>

> To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

> <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 12:57:17 PM

> Subject: Re: Bad news for land Lyme doctors and patients

>

> The problem with challenging this in court is financing a protracted

> legal battle.

>

> Electing legislators that will support alternative medicine is an option

> open to all of us.

>

> As well as communicating with our legislators who are in office now to

> let them know that

> we will not support them in future elections if they do not represent

> our interests. Letters are

> inexpensive. But it does take time and thought. So does illness.

>

> Garnet

>

> Pinki62 wrote:

> >

> > What about the 9th Amendment? It is clearly written that we have the

> > right to pursue options even when they are not part of the mainstream

> > way of thinking. I would definitely challenge this based on the 9th

> > Amendment, if I lived in MD and had someone telling me how I should be

> > doctoring.

> >

> > Lyne

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The sad thing is, I'm a member or an autism board and there they are celebrating

Dr. Wakefield's problems - they hate the guy! Where is that coming from?

I think many parents of autistic kids feel blamed when alternative folks ask

" Have you tried ____ ? " , like they just haven't tried enough to cure their kids.

Autistic adults themselves get angry that anyone is trying to cure them, kind of

like how a gay person would be angry if anyone suggested there was a cure for

homosexuality.

....Or stupid people would get angry if someone suggested there was a cure for

stupidity - ?

(Not that those three have anything to do with each other.)

On the Gut and Psychology Syndrome DVD, Dr. Natasha -McBride says that

after Dr. Wakefield was banned from practicing medicine in Europe, none of the

other medical doctors would touch an autistic kid's digestive problems with a

ten-foot pole.

>

> You have to wonder what their long range goals are and where this turf

> war is going to end. Follow the money.

>

> Efforts to exclude alternative practitioners and treatments are on the

> rise with physicians in Britain being suspended from medical practice,

> totaling three in recent months and the passage of legislation in

> land to halt alternative treatment of chronic Lyme's disease.

>

> Eventually most of us do pursue some form of alternative healing either

> because it is more effective, more safe or less costly than allopathic

> medicine.

>

> When 85% of the drugs used by some specialties are untrialled and hence

> unproven by scientific standards it is obvious that lack of double blind

> testing is not the true issue. This figure was reported in November 2009

> at the Infectious Disease Specialists Annual Conference in a poster

> session. " Current Use " and insurance company treatment databases are the

> only support for the use of all but 15% of drugs that are standards of

> treatment in that specialty.

>

> Why then are thousands of years of history of use or current use of

> herbs, vitamins and now even foods not sufficient to allow medical

> claims or use in treatment by holistic physicians?

>

> Educating our voting populace is one way to counter current trends in

> the attempt to out law holistic health practices.

>

> Please forward.

>

> Garnet

>

>

> Recent News Articles

> =================================

>

> Today, it was confirmed that Dr. Wakefield and his colleague, Dr.

> -, will lose their licenses to practice medicine in the

> UK. This concludes the longest medical hearings ever held by the UK's

> General Medical Council. The link is

>

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/05/safeminds-speaks-out-on-gmc-decision-for-dr-a\

ndrew-wakefield-and-dr-john-walkersmith.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20133ee7552de9\

70b

>

<http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/05/safeminds-speaks-out-on-gmc-decision-for-dr-\

andrew-wakefield-and-dr-john-walkersmith.html?cid=6a00d8357f3f2969e20133ee7552de\

970b>

>

> ================================

>

> " The recent actions by those who tried to encourage or push a doctor

> protection bill through the land legislature have, as predicted,

> weakened and/or damaged our physicians current protection for treating

> Lyme patients. . . . . .

>

> Bottom line- We once had no definition of Lyme, no restrictions on

> treatment, no set standard of care and no doctors being investigated for

> the over diagnosis and treatment of Lyme (the best scenario in this

> political climate). Now we must be aware of and adhere to the following

> new principles or risk actions/charges being taken against our doctors,

> while no treatment guidelines are in place to defend alternative

> treatment options. "

>

>

>

>

> https://sites.google.com/site/marylandlyme/political-action/bad-outcome

>

> ====================================

>

> A doctor has been banned from prescribing drugs and told to take down

> part of her website after appearing before the General Medical Council.

>

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/8650048.stm

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/8650048.stm>

>

> *One of the complaints was on the content of Dr Myhill's website, which

> warned patients against oral contraceptives, the MMR triple vaccine as

> well as mammogram tests and biopsies for cancer. But Dr Mygill says she

> tries to find the causes of a disease, rather than treating the symptoms

> with drugs. She said in a statement on her website that a group of

> doctors have complained about her recommending a B12 vitamin injection

> to a patient. A second complainant said the information on her website

> was " very worrying " and was concerned " patients are being seriously

> misled " . She told BBC Wales: " I think there's a small group of doctors

> who perceive me as a threat to their professional integrity in some way

> and that is certainly not my desire to in any way threaten them. " My

> motive is purely to help the patient to get well in as safe a way as is

> possible. " *

>

>

>

> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/8650048.stm>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Garnet,

Besides the plants they have patented that accept high aluminum in their

life, the one that worries me the most is, the bill that says you can't

share, sell, give or trade your home produce. This means in the event of

starvation, if you grow your food, your relatives can starve. They don't

pass bills without a reason!

Jean

& & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &

>

> I think you have pegged it Jane, Denial is easier to live with than Rage.

>

> People no longer aspire to thrive they simply want to get by, because they

> believe that is all that is within their reach.

>

> With all the sanctions against alt treatments and medical licensing you

> have to

> wonder where alternative medicine is heading. I don't see it going away,

> it's too well known now. It's a bell that can't be unrung.

>

> I am a believer in looking for the open window when the door is slammed

> in your face. If medical claims can not be made on product labels or by

> the seller and mfg and practitioners can not practice openly it seems that

> it will go underground. Like the couple in love in 1984, they practiced love

> in secret.

>

> Maybe this will produce a new generation of Secret Healing Societies?

>

> Garnet

>

> Jane MacRoss wrote:

>>

>> Well I think what you have shown here does prove that there is a

>> strong link

>> between stupidity and autism if they don't want to look at the link

>> between

>> cause and effect or diet and health. But there are always going to be

>> people who want to believe the " right " thing - it is incredibly

>> difficult to

>> realise that your child or you are permanently damaged due to

>> " medical/pharmaceutical " " error " and that even if you DO start to believe

>> such an outrageous idea that no one is going to back you up.

>>

>> If I had a vaccinated autistic child I would be in a permanent state of

>> rage. Denial is far easier to live with.

>>

>> Jane

>>

[Guest guest]

And then there is the Executive Order that Clinton passed just before

leaving

the White House that said if you have more than a 2 week supply of food the

government has the right to take it and do what they wish with it.

It's craziness and is going to drive people to at the very least a

passive revolution.

What am I saying, it already has. We are there. And in the very near

future it may

not remain so passive.

Garnet

oldglory@... wrote:

>

> Hi Garnet,

>

> Besides the plants they have patented that accept high aluminum in their

> life, the one that worries me the most is, the bill that says you can't

> share, sell, give or trade your home produce. This means in the event of

> starvation, if you grow your food, your relatives can starve. They don't

> pass bills without a reason!

>

> Jean

>

> & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &

>

> >

> > I think you have pegged it Jane, Denial is easier to live with than

> Rage.

> >

> > People no longer aspire to thrive they simply want to get by,

> because they

> > believe that is all that is within their reach.

> >

> > With all the sanctions against alt treatments and medical licensing you

> > have to

> > wonder where alternative medicine is heading. I don't see it going away,

> > it's too well known now. It's a bell that can't be unrung.

> >

> > I am a believer in looking for the open window when the door is slammed

> > in your face. If medical claims can not be made on product labels or by

> > the seller and mfg and practitioners can not practice openly it

> seems that

> > it will go underground. Like the couple in love in 1984, they

> practiced love

> > in secret.

> >

> > Maybe this will produce a new generation of Secret Healing Societies?

> >

> > Garnet

> >

> > Jane MacRoss wrote:

> >>

> >> Well I think what you have shown here does prove that there is a

> >> strong link

> >> between stupidity and autism if they don't want to look at the link

> >> between

> >> cause and effect or diet and health. But there are always going to be

> >> people who want to believe the " right " thing - it is incredibly

> >> difficult to

> >> realise that your child or you are permanently damaged due to

> >> " medical/pharmaceutical " " error " and that even if you DO start to

> believe

> >> such an outrageous idea that no one is going to back you up.

> >>

> >> If I had a vaccinated autistic child I would be in a permanent state of

> >> rage. Denial is far easier to live with.

> >>

> >> Jane

> >>

>

>

[Guest guest]

is correct. It is about reduction in population. This is a means that is

used in developed nations. In 3rd world countries, they just send in the

military to put down an imaginary uprising and massacre everyone in the area, or

fuel old rivalries to where the citizens kill each other. There are no natural

seeds left for sale in S Africa and same holdss true for Iraq. Just monsanto

franken-seeds. Afghanistan will likely be next to join that group (except for

their poppy seeds)

Bad news for land Lyme doctors and patients

Hi Garnet,

Besides the plants they have patented that accept high aluminum in their

life, the one that worries me the most is, the bill that says you can't

share, sell, give or trade your home produce. This means in the event of

starvation, if you grow your food, your relatives can starve. They don't

pass bills without a reason!

Jean

& & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &

>

> I think you have pegged it Jane, Denial is easier to live with than Rage.

>

> People no longer aspire to thrive they simply want to get by, because they

> believe that is all that is within their reach.

>

> With all the sanctions against alt treatments and medical licensing you

> have to

> wonder where alternative medicine is heading. I don't see it going away,

> it's too well known now. It's a bell that can't be unrung.

>

> I am a believer in looking for the open window when the door is slammed

> in your face. If medical claims can not be made on product labels or by

> the seller and mfg and practitioners can not practice openly it seems that

> it will go underground. Like the couple in love in 1984, they practiced love

> in secret.

>

> Maybe this will produce a new generation of Secret Healing Societies?

>

> Garnet

>

> Jane MacRoss wrote:

>>

>> Well I think what you have shown here does prove that there is a

>> strong link

>> between stupidity and autism if they don't want to look at the link

>> between

>> cause and effect or diet and health. But there are always going to be

>> people who want to believe the " right " thing - it is incredibly

>> difficult to

>> realise that your child or you are permanently damaged due to

>> " medical/pharmaceutical " " error " and that even if you DO start to believe

>> such an outrageous idea that no one is going to back you up.

>>

>> If I had a vaccinated autistic child I would be in a permanent state of

>> rage. Denial is far easier to live with.

>>

>> Jane

>>

[Guest guest]

That is so true Garnet. Backyard poultry-raising is now an explosive growth

industry. Just visit www.backyardchickens.com and read about it. They have

nearly doubled their membership in just one year. More than a few people have

decided to have a supply of food that they control and produce for good reason.

Hurricane Katrina taught us that if nothing else.

Re: Bad news for land Lyme doctors and patients

And then there is the Executive Order that Clinton passed just before

leaving

the White House that said if you have more than a 2 week supply of food the

government has the right to take it and do what they wish with it.

It's craziness and is going to drive people to at the very least a

passive revolution.

What am I saying, it already has. We are there. And in the very near

future it may

not remain so passive.

Garnet

oldglory@... wrote:

>

> Hi Garnet,

>

> Besides the plants they have patented that accept high aluminum in their

> life, the one that worries me the most is, the bill that says you can't

> share, sell, give or trade your home produce. This means in the event of

> starvation, if you grow your food, your relatives can starve. They don't

> pass bills without a reason!

>

> Jean

>

> & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &

>

> >

> > I think you have pegged it Jane, Denial is easier to live with than

> Rage.

> >

> > People no longer aspire to thrive they simply want to get by,

> because they

> > believe that is all that is within their reach.

> >

> > With all the sanctions against alt treatments and medical licensing you

> > have to

> > wonder where alternative medicine is heading. I don't see it going away,

> > it's too well known now. It's a bell that can't be unrung.

> >

> > I am a believer in looking for the open window when the door is slammed

> > in your face. If medical claims can not be made on product labels or by

> > the seller and mfg and practitioners can not practice openly it

> seems that

> > it will go underground. Like the couple in love in 1984, they

> practiced love

> > in secret.

> >

> > Maybe this will produce a new generation of Secret Healing Societies?

> >

> > Garnet

> >

> > Jane MacRoss wrote:

> >>

> >> Well I think what you have shown here does prove that there is a

> >> strong link

> >> between stupidity and autism if they don't want to look at the link

> >> between

> >> cause and effect or diet and health. But there are always going to be

> >> people who want to believe the " right " thing - it is incredibly

> >> difficult to

> >> realise that your child or you are permanently damaged due to

> >> " medical/pharmaceutical " " error " and that even if you DO start to

> believe

> >> such an outrageous idea that no one is going to back you up.

> >>

> >> If I had a vaccinated autistic child I would be in a permanent state of

> >> rage. Denial is far easier to live with.

> >>

> >> Jane

> >>

>

>

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