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> Every single time she leaves, my house no longer accommodates me.

> It works for her. And she whines about how my house is just not

> organized " right. " Well, it's right for me! So stop undoing

> everything! And my husband won't say a word...

This is exactly what I tell friends about my aide.

And, no, your husband won't say a word. That's his mother. Very

personal relationship. He's doing the best he can. I could tell

stories - husband, MIL stories. But I really loved my mother in law.

That wasn't the problem. I left 36 years ago.

You can refuse the help. There are other approaches.

I have to beg my aide sometimes to just sit with me. I tell her, you

know, it makes me very anxious for you to be up and doing around me. I

cannot handle the stress of the activity around me. Please, please,

please, just sit with me. Let's chat quietly.

If you need her help, you're gonna have to wrangle the bleach from her

somehow. You're gonna have to tell her, as I tell my aide, please,

please, please let me show you where things go. She objects,

illogically, you always have to have it your way! I said, yes, my way,

so I CAN FIND IT AGAIN! When my aide handles my stuff, often, I never

see it again. Like you, things are not organized but they are where I

can easily use them with little effort. They ARE organized. For ME.

This is where I live. It's not my aide's house. I can't live the way

my aide does. If I could, I wouldn't need an aide. Organization is

secondary to my being able to get what I need to do done in the

simplest way possible. Not that pleasant for visitors. Well, that's

their decision, not mine.

I soooo understand, sagefox.

toni

nr annapolis and the bay md

http://www.cfsnova.com/egg.html

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I hope you have since kicked him to the curb?

-----Original Message-----

I downloaded?info from the internet for my husband once. I handed it to him, he

looked it over and threw it in the garbage right in front of me.

?

" Nobody move! I dropped me brain! "

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I've gotten steroid injections since the 90s off and on for asthma because I had

no choice and it was a life or death situation each time.

They do make you shaky and you have to lie down afterwards for a long period of

time.

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I have found that this non caring attitude is true with relatives. Yes. I

have also found it to be the

case with many doctors. Doctors don't like their patients to have chronic

pain. There is nothing

much they can do. They may know the pain the patient feels but they don't

dare show it. I've

grown immune to people not caring or not believing that I'm in pain. I

don't need their caring or their

belief.

I'm in year eight of chronic pain. In the beginning of the journey, I was

hurt ALL the time by the lack

of caring.

Pamela Neckpain

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Some people just don't show their love that way. I love my husband. I do

not show it as much as I

should.

God, no one could love any one more than I love that man.

I was soooo rude to him tonight. I could just kick myselfl\\

Did anyone see that 20/20 show where the ugly duckling girl killed her two

beautiful girl friends and

their boy friends? If so, let me know ... I don't know how it ended. My

husband forgot to push Pause.

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> laxatives don't work on me.

>

> Laxatives don't work for me either. I spoke to my doctor and she had a

solution but it's too embarassing to say. (I'm not sure how many people

receive these responses.)

Pamela

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> I give them the website to look at.

>

That's always a good idea. Sometimes I like to hear about different

health problems in little bites ...

maybe a paragraph a week ... or just a few sentences.

If I tried to tell you my problems, I'd be at my computer for hours.

Pamela

It takes a long time to understand stuff.

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> it can sometimes seem that the least sympathetic people are those who

> should really have the most sympathy.

>

>

>

Are you speaking of our doctors and medical people, . Or do you mean

our close relatives? Or both?

Pamela

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Marijuana doesn't work for me. It makes me very aware of every little ache

and pain. It's legal in

California where I live but it's against the federal law so it makes me

nervous.

What do you use or take that helps you?

Pamela

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I didn't write it but I can tell you that it most certainly is NOT mean

spirited. The Bible says that God makes all things work to our good. That

doesn't mean that only good things happen to us, only that God uses the bad

things that happen to make us better people or to help others around us. It is

the same kind of positive thinking as " there is a silver lining in every cloud "

or " it's not how hard you fall, it's how high you bounce. " I know that it has

been incredibly helpful for me to look for the ways in which my health problems

have taught me things, made me a better person, helped me to understand others

better, and more. Our minds don't cause our pain and fatigue, but they can be

used to reduce it. I never say, even to myself, " I can't take it anymore "

because the fact is that I can take it some more and probably will have to do

so. Saying " I can't take it... " just makes me feel worse and more of a victim.

I am far from a perky cheer-leader type of person but I do all that I can to see

my life in a positive way, to laugh and be cheerful with those around me while

not hiding or invalidating my situation. Very few of us would deny that stress

adds to our pain and sickness but the fact is that much, if not most, of the

stress we feel is a matter of how we perceive the world. Controlling stress

starts with managing that perspective. You don't have to agree with me but I

strongly believe all of this because it has made a big difference in my life.

BTW, I have had chronic pain and illness for over 20 years and have been on

disability since 2005. I think I have earned the right to see my health

problems my own way without someone else dissing those views.

Margie

>

>

>

>

> > " if you're in pain, feel it, embrace it, God is using it to show you

> > > > something. "

> > > >

> >

>

> Who would write that and why???? It's mean spirited. We who have pain

> need all the support and

> caring we can give each other. That was not a nice thing to say and it's

> not true.

> Pamela

>

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The divorce will be financially devastating for me and my girls, but I'm

hopeful. I even registered for on line dating. My neighbor met her current

husband there.

nan

 

" Nobody move! I dropped me brain! "

________________________________

Just wanted to say, I love your posts and I too am separated from my demanding

husband.  He still cares, but I think he cares more about having a new life for

himself. Hang in there, we deserve better! :-)

-

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That was not written by me pamela but by Simon Dean maybe he should comment??

----- Original Message -----

From: pamelaneckpain@...

> it can sometimes seem that the least sympathetic people are those who

> should really have the most sympathy.

>

>

>

Are you speaking of our doctors and medical people, . Or do you mean

our close relatives? Or both?

Pamela

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> Do some research because they do have medical mj, the veggie kind and

> the 

> kind that peps u up.

>

sounds good. it does. aand it's safe. this methadone i take is so

unsafe. dea needs some lessons.

it would happen if they had pain or someone they love had chronic pain.

PaMELa

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Thank you so much. I couldn't say it better myself. This illness has taught me

so much about myself; mainly that I haven't been taking good care of myself

trying to do too much for others. I love that God has turned this into a

positive for me, as I am finally writing about my experience and it is so

freeing! Thank you.

> >

> > I didn't write it but I can tell you that it most certainly is NOT mean

spirited. The Bible says that God makes all things work to our good. That

doesn't mean that only good things happen to us, only that God uses the bad

things that happen to make us better people or to help others around us. It is

the same kind of positive thinking as " there is a silver lining in every cloud "

or " it's not how hard you fall, it's how high you bounce. " I know that it has

been incredibly helpful for me to look for the ways in which my health problems

have taught me things, made me a better person, helped me to understand others

better, and more. Our minds don't cause our pain and fatigue, but they can be

used to reduce it. I never say, even to myself, " I can't take it anymore "

because the fact is that I can take it some more and probably will have to do

so. Saying " I can't take it... " just makes me feel worse and more of a victim.

>

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> would that mean that fibromyalgia is psychosomatic?

>   Pamela

>

It's a confusing diagnosis. It's one of my diagnoses but I don't think I

have it. I don't have those

pain areas. I have a lot of things wrong with my back and I think in the

beginning the doctors

just said " fibromyalgia " because that would mean they didn't have to

prescribe opiods. It was

hell.

I do want to say that from what I know about Fibromyalgia that opiods are

the only thing to help it.

Pamela

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Pamela,

You take it one day at a time. I have been ill since the 1980's and on

disability since June 30, 1995. You do what you have to do and stay away

from those that are negative. Hopefully, you will see a cause and treatment

soon, at least in your lifetime.

Hugs, Michele - Nana to Twins is and , 3 yrs.,

Zachary, 5 yrs., Ethan, 9 yrs., and Tony, 13 yrs.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: pamelaneckpain

> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:07 AM

>

> I don't believe anybody can understand chronic pain (unless

> the person is

> in a wheel chair or has

> to stay in bed all the time) If you look ok, it's not pain

> as far as they

> can understand. After 7 years of pain, I understood this.

> I'm now going

> into year 8. I don't know if I can take much more.

> Pamela

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