Re: Re: How To Prepare For Obamacare: Create Your Own Natural Medicine Chest

[Guest guest]

I sell essential oils and most of my customers are Canadians. I always thought

that was because they have to take charge of their own health. Since I have

survived two deadly cancers with the help of wonderful surgeons, and was the

victim of a year of aggressive chemotherapy, I am very aware of the need to

practice good health living. I am too old to be cost effective for further

surgery and would not take chemo again ever. So I MUST avoid cancer and learn

to squelch incipient ones. DMSO is quite a tool. I don t have much money, but

there are some things ANYBODY can do. Like not eating junk food. Suppose you

think you are going to faint and fall in the floor and junk food is all there is

to be had. I am not going to eat it anyway. Guess what. I quit eating junk

food at work and did not faint and fall on the floor even though I thought I

might. We have to all start learning as much as we can and practising good

health. We cannot rely on

doctors to save us.

Ann

>Konnie,

>

>Obviously, you did not read the bills. I did, and I read summary

>analyses

>written by trusted folks who disected them and are well versed in

>politico-

>speak - what is being said vs. what really exists and is intended. The

>Obama

>signed law creates over 100 new federal government agencies and

>departments.

>The law specifically states that cancer patients will NOT be treated. If

>meant

>after a certain Stage, is being debated. The Death Panels are now law.

>And, it

>gets worse. This is a massive over taking of healthcare. Major

>insurance

>companies, such as Aetna and United HealthCare strongly endorsed Obama

>DEATHCARE.

>

>Bruce Chesley

>Truth is a terrible cross to bear.

>Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. - Paine

>The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacitus

>Treason for $$$$. ALL " pro 2A " orgs.

>

>

>

>Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:05:06 -0000

>Sorry, I'm obviously out-gunned here, but I stand by my statement.

> " Obamaca=

>re " is a loaded word, and those who use it know it, or else they just

>carel=

>essly repeat what they hear without thinking about the implicarions.

>Certai=

>nly whoever invented the word did not do so out of loving-kindness. I

>don't=

> hate anyone. No one. So don't you accuse me. You don't know me. And I

>hear=

> lots of pejorative terms coming from the supposedly " censored " news

>media.=

> I don't care to deal with misinformation. The Health Care Reform Law is

>NO=

>T a massive government takeover. It is a rather weak attempt to rein in

>som=

>e of the insurance conpanies abuses, and does not go nearly far enough.

>Som=

>e of the ideas contained in the bill came from republicans, you know. It

>wi=

>ll not make it more difficult for anyone to get health care...that's what

>t=

>he insurance companies do..it will make health care available to some

>peopl=

>e who otherwise would not be able to afford it, but not everyone.

>You don't have to insult me personally, and I shall say no more about

>this.

>

>I will comment on the advice contained in the referenced article...very

>goo=

>d advice for the most part, but folks should be cautioned on the use of

>act=

>ivated charcoal for indigestion, or whatever it was suggested for. It can

>n=

>eutralize any medications or supplements one might have in the GI tract.

>It=

> is (or was, at least, when I was an ER nurse) used to stop the

>absorption =

>of ingested poisons. A charcoal slurry was put down the stomach tube

>after =

>pumping, or given by mouth after forced emesis, so if you want to use it,

>j=

>ust be sure you give your meds time to work before you swallow it. You

>will=

> know when it has passed from your system.

>

>Konnie

>

>

>> >Excuse me, but Obamacare is totally accurate. If anyone else had been

>> >elected, would we be facing this massive government take over with

>this

>> >Health Care Reform? Wasn't it his leadership, his energy and his drive

>a=

>nd

>> >political finegeling that got this bill passed? " Obamacare " it is, and

>t=

>here

>> >is no hate. It's just the truth.

>> >

>> >Why do people have to play the hate card anyway. I don't agree with

>Obam=

>a's

>> >ideas or his politics but I certainly don't hate him. I just think

>he's

>> >wrong.

>> >

>> >Maybe those that so quickly throw out that hate card ought to look at

>th=

>eir

>> >own pejorative heart.

>> >

>> >Happy Easter everyone.

>> >

>> >Regards,

>> >

>> >Craig

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That matches everything I have read about the subject, Bruce. It is a massive

takeover of the whole business and anything that touches healthcare to boot. I

have heard, but not read that on or after the 3rd year, there will be some

required microchipping of either patients, or all who are covered. Again, I did

not yet find that in print.

I am expecting to see our hospitals eventually over time end up providing a

level of care approximately like those of the VA (Veteran's Administration).

Why do I expect that? Because the only example of a govt-run healthcare

scenario is the VA itself. I think that is a reasonable assumption based on

past govt performance in what once was their only venture into mass healthcare.

The one exception to that would be the level of healthcare the good congress has

voted in for themselves at our expense. You and I and every average citizen

will never see anything approaching that quality. However we will get to pay

for both systems, and we will get to provide it for illegal aliens as well at

our expense.

Re: How To Prepare For Obamacare: Create Your Own Natural

Medicine Chest

Konnie,

Obviously, you did not read the bills. I did, and I read summary

analyses

written by trusted folks who disected them and are well versed in

politico-

speak - what is being said vs. what really exists and is intended. The

Obama

signed law creates over 100 new federal government agencies and

departments.

The law specifically states that cancer patients will NOT be treated. If

meant

after a certain Stage, is being debated. The Death Panels are now law.

And, it

gets worse. This is a massive over taking of healthcare. Major

insurance

companies, such as Aetna and United HealthCare strongly endorsed Obama

DEATHCARE.

Bruce Chesley

Truth is a terrible cross to bear.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. - Paine

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacitus

Treason for $$$$. ALL " pro 2A " orgs.

Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 08:05:06 -0000

Sorry, I'm obviously out-gunned here, but I stand by my statement.

" Obamaca=

re " is a loaded word, and those who use it know it, or else they just

carel=

essly repeat what they hear without thinking about the implicarions.

Certai=

nly whoever invented the word did not do so out of loving-kindness. I

don't=

hate anyone. No one. So don't you accuse me. You don't know me. And I

hear=

lots of pejorative terms coming from the supposedly " censored " news

media.=

I don't care to deal with misinformation. The Health Care Reform Law is

NO=

T a massive government takeover. It is a rather weak attempt to rein in

som=

e of the insurance conpanies abuses, and does not go nearly far enough.

Som=

e of the ideas contained in the bill came from republicans, you know. It

wi=

ll not make it more difficult for anyone to get health care...that's what

t=

he insurance companies do..it will make health care available to some

peopl=

e who otherwise would not be able to afford it, but not everyone.

You don't have to insult me personally, and I shall say no more about

this.

I will comment on the advice contained in the referenced article...very

goo=

d advice for the most part, but folks should be cautioned on the use of

act=

ivated charcoal for indigestion, or whatever it was suggested for. It can

n=

eutralize any medications or supplements one might have in the GI tract.

It=

is (or was, at least, when I was an ER nurse) used to stop the

absorption =

of ingested poisons. A charcoal slurry was put down the stomach tube

after =

pumping, or given by mouth after forced emesis, so if you want to use it,

j=

ust be sure you give your meds time to work before you swallow it. You

will=

know when it has passed from your system.

Konnie

> >Excuse me, but Obamacare is totally accurate. If anyone else had been

> >elected, would we be facing this massive government take over with

this

> >Health Care Reform? Wasn't it his leadership, his energy and his drive

a=

nd

> >political finegeling that got this bill passed? " Obamacare " it is, and

t=

here

> >is no hate. It's just the truth.

> >

> >Why do people have to play the hate card anyway. I don't agree with

Obam=

a's

> >ideas or his politics but I certainly don't hate him. I just think

he's

> >wrong.

> >

> >Maybe those that so quickly throw out that hate card ought to look at

th=

eir

> >own pejorative heart.

> >

> >Happy Easter everyone.

> >

> >Regards,

> >

> >Craig

__________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Obamacare is a made up word by the GOP to denigrate Obama and what he's tying to

do for the poor people. Yes, let's look at the news, it does not matter what

Obama or our Congress tries to do it's always spun in a negative light. There is

plenty of proof right here.

All I can say, G Simpkins if this matches everything you've read about the

Health Care Bill then you only read from one source and it's the same source

bruce is getting all his info from.

" That matches everything I have read about the subject, Bruce. It is a

massive takeover of the whole business and anything that touches

healthcare to boot. I have heard, but not read that on or after the 3rd

year, there will be some required microchipping of either patients, or

all who are covered. Again, I did not yet find that in print. "

You have heard but have not read anything about about the above info?

Your Honor, I rest my case.

" I read summary analyses written by trusted folks who disected them and are

well versed in politico-speak. " You'll excuse me, Bruce if I do not trust the

folks who dissected them and are well versed in politico-speak because clearly

they have a biased agenda. Death panels are now signed into law...LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Ooh yes, I am so scared...death panels...that is the reaction you're looking

for, no? I'll bet when the GOP came up with that idea several years ago your

trusted politico-speak folks thought it was a wonderful idea.

Seems to me we have more to fear from McCain and his anti-supplement bill

than the HCB. If McCain had his way natural supplements as we now know them

would be a thing of the past.

Instead of constantly blaming Obama for all the woes in the world why not take a

proactive stance and do something positive and constructive for a change.

Start here, why don't you? I challenge you in fact!

Finally– Legislation to Protect Your Right to Know About the Science

Behind Supplements!

Bill HR 4913  Free Speech About Science Act.

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he-science-behind-supplements/

Sorry, Garnet but sometimes ya just gotta speak up and speak back.

Best regards,

Sandy

http://buyingkefirgrains.blogspot.com/

http://heavenly-haiku.blogspot.com/

Subject: Re: Re: How To Prepare For Obamacare: Create Your Own Natural

Medicine Chest

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 11:34 AM

 

That matches everything I have read about the subject, Bruce. It is a

massive takeover of the whole business and anything that touches healthcare to

boot. I have heard, but not read that on or after the 3rd year, there will be

some required microchipping of either patients, or all who are covered. Again,

I did not yet find that in print.

I am expecting to see our hospitals eventually over time end up providing a

level of care approximately like those of the VA (Veteran's Administration) .

Why do I expect that? Because the only example of a govt-run healthcare

scenario is the VA itself. I think that is a reasonable assumption based on

past govt performance in what once was their only venture into mass healthcare.

The one exception to that would be the level of healthcare the good congress has

voted in for themselves at our expense. You and I and every average citizen

will never see anything approaching that quality. However we will get to pay

for both systems, and we will get to provide it for illegal aliens as well at

our expense.

Re: How To Prepare For Obamacare: Create Your Own Natural

Medicine Chest

Konnie,

Obviously, you did not read the bills. I did, and I read summary

analyses

written by trusted folks who disected them and are well versed in

politico-

speak - what is being said vs. what really exists and is intended. The

Obama

signed law creates over 100 new federal government agencies and

departments.

The law specifically states that cancer patients will NOT be treated. If

meant

after a certain Stage, is being debated. The Death Panels are now law.

And, it

gets worse. This is a massive over taking of healthcare. Major

insurance

companies, such as Aetna and United HealthCare strongly endorsed Obama

DEATHCARE.

Bruce Chesley

Truth is a terrible cross to bear.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. - Paine

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacitus

Treason for $$$$. ALL " pro 2A " orgs.

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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Homeowners - Lock in before rates rise. $300,000 for only $1,306/mo.

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[Guest guest]

Oh, I don't know, Craig, didn't we just go through 8 years of a massive

government take over? However, we never heard of Bushcare and for very good

reason...clearly he did not care..

I see that regardless of the fact some posters are offended by those of you who

continue to use the term, Obamacare which in truth is not accurate...you

strictly use it to denigrate President Obama and you well know it as do all of

us who post on this forum.

We play the hate card because your actions speak louder than words and for you

to even use that term " hate card " is very telling in and of itself.

Best regards,

Sandy

http://buyingkefirgrains.blogspot.com/

http://heavenly-haiku.blogspot.com/

Subject: Re: How To Prepare For Obamacare: Create Your Own Natural

Medicine Chest

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 1:09 AM

 

Excuse me, but Obamacare is totally accurate. If anyone else had been

elected, would we be facing this massive government take over with this

Health Care Reform? Wasn't it his leadership, his energy and his drive and

political finegeling that got this bill passed? " Obamacare " it is, and there

is no hate. It's just the truth.

Why do people have to play the hate card anyway. I don't agree with Obama's

ideas or his politics but I certainly don't hate him. I just think he's

wrong.

Maybe those that so quickly throw out that hate card ought to look at their

own pejorative heart.

Happy Easter everyone.

Regards,

Craig

[Guest guest]

Hello Hanneke, how's it going? I notice all your sources are Australian, no?

Tsk, and I notice some of them are sooo wrong in their reporting, censorship or

no. Psst, the Health Care Bill passed and the public supported it...well, except

for the teabaggers.

Best regards,

Sandy

http://buyingkefirgrains.blogspot.com/

http://heavenly-haiku.blogspot.com/

>Excuse me, but Obamacare is totally accurate. If anyone else had been

>elected, would we be facing this massive government take over with this

>Health Care Reform? Wasn't it his leadership, his energy and his drive and

>political finegeling that got this bill passed? " Obamacare " it is, and there

>is no hate. It's just the truth.

>

>Why do people have to play the hate card anyway. I don't agree with Obama's

>ideas or his politics but I certainly don't hate him. I just think he's

>wrong.

>

>Maybe those that so quickly throw out that hate card ought to look at their

>own pejorative heart.

>

>Happy Easter everyone.

>

>Regards,

>

>Craig

>

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