RE: posterior vitreous detachment question

[Guest guest]

I dilute DMSO to 5% for my eyes. Have never used more than 10%.

Garnet

cat_thump wrote:

>

> I suffered a sudden acute posterior vitreous detachment yesterday, and

> now have a very large and very obtrusive floater.

>

> I am wondering if it will be safe to use CS-MSM-DMSO eye drops now?

> If it is, any suggestions as to how much DMSO and MSM in proportion to

> the CS?

> What about a drop of straight DMSO? If that is ok, is it a one time

> dosage or can it be repeated and how often?

>

> I tried a drop of DMSO for caratacts, but only did one eye as it was

> so painful, but for this thing I have now, if it is safe and would

> help, I'd suffer the pain!

> thanks for any help,

> sol

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sol, while I am a strong advocate of the use of DMSO and have used it for

multiple purposes for years, including minute amounts of it in honey for

eyes, I also have developed a lot of confidence in the use of ones own urine

to bathe the eyes. The recommendation is mid-stream urine, best taken in

the morning.

I just had there nerve to try this " remedy " last year, although I have known

about it since about 1990. Stupidly and carelessly, I got hair dye into my

right eye..the irritation was almost unbearable. I ran, did not walk, for

medical aid, where examination showed the inner side of the eyeball to be

" scored " and very dry. The prescribed eye drops did not help, so in

desperation I overcame my revulsion over the use of urine and tried it. Lo

and behold, it worked and worked quickly...Now I take care to at least

occasionally bathe my eyeballs in urine, especially if I have done a lot of

computer work, or other eye strain.

Just for your consideration (and you always have it with you)

Taffy

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From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of cat_thump

Sent: January-21-10 8:14 AM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: posterior vitreous detachment question

I suffered a sudden acute posterior vitreous detachment yesterday, and now

have a very large and very obtrusive floater.

I am wondering if it will be safe to use CS-MSM-DMSO eye drops now?

If it is, any suggestions as to how much DMSO and MSM in proportion to the

CS?

What about a drop of straight DMSO? If that is ok, is it a one time dosage

or can it be repeated and how often?

I tried a drop of DMSO for caratacts, but only did one eye as it was so

painful, but for this thing I have now, if it is safe and would help, I'd

suffer the pain!

thanks for any help,

sol

[Guest guest]

Had one of those over 10 years ago and still have a vitreous floater. And that

is my good eye now because 3 yrs ago I had a macular hole followed to two

partial detachments. Anyway, I too have wondered if any good can come from

using DMSO. I have a cataract developing in my good eye now. Was using MSM

drops maybe 10 times daily when bad eye began to have noticeable cataract that

the eye surgeon said would come afterwards. The MSM never helped me.

Gerry

posterior vitreous detachment question

I suffered a sudden acute posterior vitreous detachment yesterday, and now

have a very large and very obtrusive floater.

I am wondering if it will be safe to use CS-MSM-DMSO eye drops now?

If it is, any suggestions as to how much DMSO and MSM in proportion to the CS?

What about a drop of straight DMSO? If that is ok, is it a one time dosage or

can it be repeated and how often?

I tried a drop of DMSO for caratacts, but only did one eye as it was so

painful, but for this thing I have now, if it is safe and would help, I'd suffer

the pain!

thanks for any help,

sol

[Guest guest]

In this particular case I am hoping to dissolve or break up the floater. I doubt

urine could do that, but think DMSO just might.

There really isn't any irritation or pain.

But thanks for the info anyway.

sol

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> Sol, while I am a strong advocate of the use of DMSO and have used it for

> multiple purposes for years, including minute amounts of it in honey for

> eyes, I also have developed a lot of confidence in the use of ones own urine

> to bathe the eyes. The recommendation is mid-stream urine, best taken in

> the morning.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks. My detachment unfortunately happened in my good eye.

I add the MSM to the CS/DMSO drops because it helps keep the DMSO from drying my

eyes too much, not for its own sake per se. I was using the drops because I am

getting cataracts too.

Over time, have the floaters changed? I started wearing an eye patch today

because the floater changed shape and looks like a spider hanging in front of my

eye, and I am so phobic the stress of seeing it evr4y couple seconds was about

to make me ill.

sol

>

> Had one of those over 10 years ago and still have a vitreous floater. And

that is my good eye now because 3 yrs ago I had a macular hole followed to two

partial detachments. Anyway, I too have wondered if any good can come from

using DMSO. I have a cataract developing in my good eye now. Was using MSM

drops maybe 10 times daily when bad eye began to have noticeable cataract that

the eye surgeon said would come afterwards. The MSM never helped me.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sol....Or you could consider trying Swedish Bitters..I use this also,

both on the lid and in the corner of the eye and along the lash. It does

not sting if just applied to the lid, but really smarts for a short while if

put in the eye...have been thinking of using a very minute amount of DMSO in

the Swedish Bitters for application on the lid only.

Taffy

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From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of cat_thump

Sent: January-21-10 3:07 PM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: Re: posterior vitreous detachment question

Thanks. My detachment unfortunately happened in my good eye.

I add the MSM to the CS/DMSO drops because it helps keep the DMSO from

drying my eyes too much, not for its own sake per se. I was using the drops

because I am getting cataracts too.

Over time, have the floaters changed? I started wearing an eye patch today

because the floater changed shape and looks like a spider hanging in front

of my eye, and I am so phobic the stress of seeing it evr4y couple seconds

was about to make me ill.

sol

[Guest guest]

Please excuse the large text, I am having extreme trouble reading

regular size text.

Hi Taffy, I will save your suggestion, but can you tell me why you

think the bitters would dissolve the floater? Or do you think it will

heal the detachment? The doctor and the websites I have read all say

a posterior vitreous detachment is permanent and will never reattach again.

thanks,

sol

At 04:12 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:

>Hi, Sol....Or you could consider trying Swedish Bitters..I use this also,

>both on the lid and in the corner of the eye and along the lash. It does

>not sting if just applied to the lid, but really smarts for a short while if

>put in the eye...have been thinking of using a very minute amount of DMSO in

>the Swedish Bitters for application on the lid only.

>

>Taffy

>

>

>

> _____

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>From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>[ mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of cat_thump

>Sent: January-21-10 3:07 PM

>To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

>Subject: Re: posterior vitreous detachment question

>

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>Thanks. My detachment unfortunately happened in my good eye.

>I add the MSM to the CS/DMSO drops because it helps keep the DMSO from

>drying my eyes too much, not for its own sake per se. I was using the drops

>because I am getting cataracts too.

>Over time, have the floaters changed? I started wearing an eye patch today

>because the floater changed shape and looks like a spider hanging in front

>of my eye, and I am so phobic the stress of seeing it evr4y couple seconds

>was about to make me ill.

>sol

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[Guest guest]

Hello, Sol:

Oh, Boy, you ask a lot of me..non-professional person that I am, but am

willing to express my opinion and belief as the saying goes. I am writing in

very large print in the hopes of making this message easier for you to read.

Swedish Bitters were first formulated by monks in the Middle Ages, I

believe. There have been many accounts written about the Bitters allegedly

improving and/or correcting vision problems...these were not clinical

studies as far as I know.

What I have been told by close friends in Scandinavia is the Swedish Bitters

are routinely prescribed by eye doctors for a host of vision problems,

including cataracts. My reasoning is that the herbs in the Bitters have a

great healing quality, allowing the body to mend. That is why I have been

considering for myself to use a very minute amount of DMSO mixed in some of

the Swedish Bitters and applying it to the eyelid several times a day for

awhile.

The comment has often been made that if the body is given the right tools,

it can mend itself...the Swedish Bitters may, underline may, contain the

ingredients your eyes need to heal. What is lost by trying? Further, with

respect the detachment being permanent, I am not a medically trained person,

but I can relate that I personally know of one instance in which a person

with this condition was healed by electo-magnetic therapy...yes, healed.

So, in my view, there is hope and usually more than one solution for any

given problem.

Best regards,

Taffy

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From: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

[mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ] On Behalf Of sol

Sent: January-21-10 6:08 PM

To: DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Subject: RE: posterior vitreous detachment question

Please excuse the large text, I am having extreme trouble reading

regular size text.

Hi Taffy, I will save your suggestion, but can you tell me why you

think the bitters would dissolve the floater? Or do you think it will

heal the detachment? The doctor and the websites I have read all say

a posterior vitreous detachment is permanent and will never reattach again.

thanks,

sol

At 04:12 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:

>Hi, Sol....Or you could consider trying Swedish Bitters..I use this also,

>both on the lid and in the corner of the eye and along the lash. It does

>not sting if just applied to the lid, but really smarts for a short while

if

>put in the eye...have been thinking of using a very minute amount of DMSO

in

>the Swedish Bitters for application on the lid only.

>

>Taffy

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

DMSO

>[ mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-

<mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com> DMSO ] On

Behalf Of cat_thump

>Sent: January-21-10 3:07 PM

>To: DimethylSulfoxide- <mailto:DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO%40yahoogroups.com>

DMSO

>Subject: Re: posterior vitreous detachment question

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>Thanks. My detachment unfortunately happened in my good eye.

>I add the MSM to the CS/DMSO drops because it helps keep the DMSO from

>drying my eyes too much, not for its own sake per se. I was using the drops

>because I am getting cataracts too.

>Over time, have the floaters changed? I started wearing an eye patch today

>because the floater changed shape and looks like a spider hanging in front

>of my eye, and I am so phobic the stress of seeing it evr4y couple seconds

>was about to make me ill.

>sol

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[Guest guest]

Taffy,

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Where does one get Swedish

Bitters, and is there a best brand? I am assuming for eyes you are

referring to a product for external use? I looked around a bit with

google but other that reading there are versions for internal and

external use, I don't know what a good brand is.

RE electro magnetic therapy do you mean something like a Sota Magnetic Pulser?

thanks,

sol

At 08:11 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:

>Swedish Bitters were first formulated by monks in the Middle Ages, I

>believe. There have been many accounts written about the Bitters allegedly

>improving and/or correcting vision problems...these were not clinical

>studies as far as I know.

>

>I personally know of one instance in which a person

>with this condition was healed by electo-magnetic therapy...yes, healed.

>So, in my view, there is hope and usually more than one solution for any

>given problem.

[Guest guest]

Sol, go to www.swedishbitters.com <http://www.swedishbitters.com/> .

Daddybob on this list deserves the credit for ferreting out this source.

This is one of many selling the original formula of Treben, who wrote

at book entitled " Health through God's Garden " (sometimes called Health

Through God's Pharmacy) in which she extols the virtues of Swedish Bitters.

In my opinion, as long as the bitters are made according to the Treben

Formula, which most German made bitters are, you cannot go wrong.

The Treben version is good for external and internal use. If I were

to use my head, I would take some internally every day instead of just hit

and miss. I have a small jar of it beside my computer to use externally on

my eyes, so by having it right in front of me I remember to apply it.

About the electro magnetic therapy, the device that was used which I

referenced in my previous email was a PAP-IMI device. Under no

circumstances am I making any recommendations to try to find this device as

a therapy option. It is very powerful and I am very cautious about it...if

it is to be used at all, in my view, it should only be by someone with an

in-depth knowledge of the complex workings of the body. It is my belief

that this device severely damaged my father, due to a lack of understanding

of it's' power and impact on the human body. Conversely, I have also seen

it help some persons dramatically, but the effectiveness I believe rests

with the knowledge of the operator.

This device I do not think can be legally imported or used in the US ...I

could be wrong about this. However, this type of therapy I think can be

found in other devices: perhaps someone on this list knows about this and

can address this question. I am all for this therapeutic approach, but one

must understand and respect the power of magnetism on the human body.

Taffy

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Sol wrote:

* Taffy,

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Where does one get Swedish

Bitters, and is there a best brand? I am assuming for eyes you are

referring to a product for external use? I looked around a bit with

google but other that reading there are versions for internal and

external use, I don't know what a good brand is.

RE electro magnetic therapy do you mean something like a Sota Magnetic

Pulser?

thanks,

sol

[Guest guest]

Taffy,

Thanks again for the detailed reply. Very helpful.

sol

At 02:19 PM 1/22/2010, you wrote:

>Sol, go to www.swedishbitters.com <http://www.swedishbitters.com/> .

>Daddybob on this list deserves the credit for ferreting out this source.

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[Guest guest]

>Sol, go to www.swedishbitters.com <http://www.swedishbitters.com/> .

Daddybob on this list deserves the credit for ferreting out this source.<

Wellll...actually that credit goes to " Randy " , and gets credit for

finding out that the formula is the correct one, but I have placed an order

with them for both premade product and for the dry mix to make your own so I

get credit for finding out that they have free shipping for any order over

$25;>) DaddyBob

[Guest guest]

I got the dry mix, but forgot it in the cupboard and it has been sitting there

for a year now in its little brown bag. The vodka is also sitting in there.

Does anyone know the shelf life of the dry mix (in the brown bag) and also shelf

life of the unopened vodka?

Thanks.

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> Kudos all around!

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> :-)

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> Wellll...actually that credit goes to " Randy " , and gets credit for

> finding out that the formula is the correct one, but I have placed an order

> with them for both premade product and for the dry mix to make your own so I

> get credit for finding out that they have free shipping for any order over

> $25;>) DaddyBob

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