Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 My reaction to soy doesn't always come at once. Soy protein or too much soy oil or lecithin will give me an immediate reaction. Soy flour I can not react for up to 2-3 days later. That when the migraine hits, and I go back over my days and find I ate something with soy flour and that was the only trigger I can find. When I get an immediate reaction to soy... it is never from the flour. I don't think I was on a formula when I was a kid because if I had any simple carbs I'd be in the ER. My mom fed me pure fruit and veggie drinks... I think this is why I can't eat hardly any of them without some severe reaction. Be careful about your doctors recommendations re: soy.. not even my genius (serious.. no sarcastic tone) is familiar with the drastic effects of soy for some patients. Soy is good soy is good is pounded into the docs just like it is to us consumers. And Fat Free dressing? LOADED with soy fyi. Dairy is just about the only thing I can always eat. Eggs, I can only tolerate them if they are loaded with cheese cooked in. Something about the enzymes in cheese make it so I can digest the eggs. I never eat meat till about age 25. I was a veggie from birth. When I found out I had such a horrible allergy to soy I tried meat... between my guilty feelings and spending hours in the bathroom with violent reactions (people who don't eat meat can't really digest it when and if they ever try it) I quickly gave that up again. I subsist mainly on carbs and dairy and nuts... it's all I can eat without getting extremely sick :-( Beans are too heavy for me, I have one bite and I'm full.... that's another problem I have. Zero appetite, and when I force myself to eat I feel so full after 2 or 3 bites it's really hard to force myself to eat. All this and I weigh about 240 and I weighed nearly 300 at my height. Hannah Pasisz------------------------------------------------------------http://www.starbrightdesigns.nethttp://www.cafepress.com/starbrighthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnderExposed/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WomenArtists/Workhttp://group.yahoo.com/LadiesCraftHour ----- Original Message ----- Hi Hannah, I've been dealing with severe migraines my whole life (I'm 40). I've been vegetarian much of my life, including some of childhood when my parents were vegetarian, and we ate tons of soy products. I'll have to ask my mom what kind of formula I was given (not sure if it was soy); she's on vacation now. anyway, what's caused the migraines is a mystery, although they do run rampant on my dad's side of the family, and only one aunt who suffers from them is vegetarian. My dad gets them really bad too. In keeping a migraine diary, I don't get migraines when I eat soy. I have noticed a pattern of migraines during my menstural cycle, when I don't get enough sleep, when the weather changes temperature drastically, and when I am under a lot of stress. sorry to hear that soy bothers you. I think it bothered me too, but I just didn't realize it. When I was reading about some of the symptoms of over-consuming soy, I was like, "Oh yeah...that's me!" Eating just a little soy does appear to bother me. I asked my endo & PCP if 3 servings a week would be too much, and they said no. They did caution me about eating soy near the times I take my thyroid meds. Too many nuts bother me. Weird, huh? I can handle a few, but sometimes I can't handle even that. I had a pretty bad gallbladder attack sometime this year (maybe Jan?) just from eating a salad with a few sunflower seeds and veggies. the dressing was fat free, so it couldn't have been that. i started eating meat again in 1996 when I met my hubby. he and I were ready to become vegetarian (him for the first time) right before I was diagnosed with this disease. After I was diagnosed, we decided not to since I would have to limit the soy drastically. were you vegetarian before you were diagnosed? Do you like beans? I LOVE them!!! They're a great source of protein also if they don't bother your stomach too much. my hubby and I love our lentils and split peas. and we eat any kind of bean except kidney and black-eyed. do you eat dairy products or eggs? I was a vegan most of time I was vegetarian, making soy and and other legumes my main protein sources. anyway, here's an interesting link about soy & how it affects the thyroid if you or anyone else is interested. http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/harris_soy_products.htm Here's a link that tells a lot of info on the "down" side of soy...very interesting...and scary. It really makes me wonder if a lot of autoimmune & thyroid problems aren't caused by soy. I used to bake bread all the time, and guess what one of the flours was that I used all the time...yep...soy flour! anyway, here's this link: http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/index.htm Here's more interesting reading about soy. I don't know if you're allergic to soy (because of the headaches) but when you click on this link, it tells you how soy is added in like 60% of foods. I have noticed from reading labels at home that soy does seem to be in everything, so maybe I shouldn't even eat my 3 servings of soy a week??? Soy in tuna, soy in hamburgers, soy in graham crackers, and the list goes on.... I have NO idea how much of the soy that's added to these foods we eat might affect our thyroid or affect the absorption of our medication? soy in Vit. E??? I didn't know that... anyway, here's the link: http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/index.htm (oh, looks like it's the same as above, so when you click on it, look at the menu bar to the left and click on allergies. Then scroll down until you see something about NoSoy. it will tell about foods with no soy & how FDA doesn't required labelling...something about Hershey's chocolate chips contained soy & FDA labelling didn't require it to say soy because it was "all natural." Anyway, sorry I got off on this. I think it's good information to know though since we are supposed to be watching our soy intake. Take care, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 I never would have thought it was true.. I mean soy supposed to be so good for you right? Well Soy as with the majority of foods pushed on us a good for us... is nearly toxic for me... All thyroid patients react negatively to soy to varying degrees. It's bad stuff... Hannah Pasiszwww.starbrightdesigns.netwww.cafepress.com/starbrighthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnderExposed/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WomenArtistsWork/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LadiesCraftHour/ You're right, Hannah...three servings a week of soy may indeed be too much for me. I try to watch labels, but I know I'm not always on top of it. Some of the symptoms you were describing sounded familiar. give me some time, and I'll see if I can find something! Hugs, Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Yes, and it has nothing to do with digestive absorption of hormone, otherwise, it could be eaten at a separate time. It has to do with blocking thyroid hormone at the uptake into the cells. Tx Re: Re: Hannah-soy info I never would have thought it was true.. I mean soy supposed to be so good for you right? Well Soy as with the majority of foods pushed on us a good for us... is nearly toxic for me... All thyroid patients react negatively to soy to varying degrees. It's bad stuff... Hannah Pasiszwww.starbrightdesigns.netwww.cafepress.com/starbrighthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnderExposed/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WomenArtistsWork/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LadiesCraftHour/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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