Re: Taking garlic medicinally while having Crohn's

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> I have crohns, with a right hemi collectomy in 2003, I take no > pharmacuticals since 2004. I eat a mostly vegitarian diet. I use a > maintence dosage of H202 each morning and each evening. In winter i > often have a garlic & ginger tea in the mornings. A couple of drops of > 3% H2O2 in your ears will take care of the infection.> Hope this helps,> J>Yes, that certainly does help. Thanks, ph. I'm a little freaked out about putting hydrogen peroxide in my ears. It seems like it would feel pretty caustic. Does it? How soon do you feel it working?Do you just use "normal" hydrogen peroxide" you get from a drug store?  (Is it sterile?-- i.e., clean enough for use in the ears).I put some cider vinegar in one ear (the worst one) last night. That seems to have helped some, though I used commercial vinegar. At the moment I don't have any raw, organic, etc. But I'd like to try the peroxide. n

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Yes use normal 3% HP. If that makes you feel nervous, dilute it 50/50

first with water, preferably distilled. Try just a drop or 2, if

you're OK with that, try more. When in doubt, take it slow.

I've done the HP in the ears bit, no problems at all. It fizzes and

bubbles, kind of weird. It's a little annoying afterwards having

liquid in your ear, I used a rolled up tissue to try to clear it out.

Alan

> On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:56:06 -0400, ph Reeves

> wrote:

>

>> I have crohns, with a right hemi collectomy in 2003, I take no

>> pharmacuticals since 2004. I eat a mostly vegitarian diet. I use a

>> maintence dosage of H202 each morning and each evening. In winter i

>> often have a garlic & ginger tea in the mornings. A couple of drops of

>> 3% H2O2 in your ears will take care of the infection.

>> Hope this helps,

>> J

>>

> Yes, that certainly does help. Thanks, ph.

> I'm a little freaked out about putting hydrogen peroxide in my ears. It

> seems like it would feel pretty caustic. Does it? How soon do you feel it

> working?

> Do you just use " normal " hydrogen peroxide " you get from a drug store?  (Is

> it sterile?-- i.e., clean enough for use in the ears).

> I put some cider vinegar in one ear (the worst one) last night. That seems

> to have helped some, though I used commercial vinegar. At the moment I don't

> have any raw, organic, etc.

> But I'd like to try the peroxide.

> n

>

>

>

>

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Alan

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Yes, it's very effective.

Feels like water, just that it fizzes as it works on organics.

That's a good thing, because the fizzing tells you it's working and

when it stops, you're done.

Of course it's sterile, it kills stuff...

I use regular drugstore variety 3% H2O2.

some people get all bent out of shape insisting on food grade.

That's nonsense.

Chuck

Clones are people two.

On 10/5/2009 10:54:41 AM, n Van Til (mvantil@...)

wrote:

> I'm a little freaked out about putting hydrogen peroxide in my ears. It seems

like it would feel pretty caustic. Does it? How soon do you feel it working?

>

> Do you just use " normal " hydrogen peroxide " you get from a drug store?  (Is it

sterile?-- i.e., clean enough for use in the ears).

>

>

> I put some cider vinegar in one ear (the worst one) last night. That seems to

have helped some, though I used commercial vinegar. At the moment I don't

> have any raw, organic, etc. 

> But I'd like to try the peroxide. 

>

>

> n

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> Yes, it's very effective.

> Feels like water, just that it fizzes as it works on organics.

> That's a good thing, because the fizzing tells you it's working and

> when it stops, you're done.

> Of course it's sterile, it kills stuff...

>

> I use regular drugstore variety 3% H2O2.

> some people get all bent out of shape insisting on food grade.

> That's nonsense.

>

> Chuck

So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my

ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

better for me.

n

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Food Grade h2o2 being nonsense is only a point of view. I use 35% food

grade diluted all the time.

I am on oxygen 24/7 and one time I thought I would put a small amount of

brown bottle 3% in the humidifier bottle on the concentrator. It made the

tubing swell up and turned milky white. I said then if

it does that to the tubing, what does it do to my lungs. Three or four

years later I got 35% as I use 3% in

my ears all the time. So, I decided to try it again in the humidifier

bottle, Started off at about five drops and built up to twelve and have

stayed there. No discoloration of tubing. So I'll stay with the Food

Grade.

Sure kicks a cold or flu when put in the ears and the earlier the

better. I use straight 3%.

Re: Re: Taking garlic " medicinally " while having Crohn's

>

>

>> Yes, it's very effective.

>> Feels like water, just that it fizzes as it works on organics.

>> That's a good thing, because the fizzing tells you it's working and

>> when it stops, you're done.

>> Of course it's sterile, it kills stuff...

>>

>> I use regular drugstore variety 3% H2O2.

>> some people get all bent out of shape insisting on food grade.

>> That's nonsense.

>>

>> Chuck

>

> So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

> strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my

> ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

> better for me.

>

> n

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:

The same thing that makes peroxide work will make it work on most things

as it eventually oxidizes them but will not ruin your lungs in process

but will help them.

When give via IV, they determine when you have had enough when your

lungs begin to outgas oxygen and it feels like it is bubbling in your chest.

Norprene,

Tygon and sesveral other chemistries of tubing will stand up un peroxice

and hydrogen peroxide. H2O2 will eat a rubber surgical glove in seconds

but no your lungs in low concentrations.

Harvey

Hawkins wrote:

> Food Grade h2o2 being nonsense is only a point of view. I use 35% food

> grade diluted all the time.

> I am on oxygen 24/7 and one time I thought I would put a small amount of

> brown bottle 3% in the humidifier bottle on the concentrator. It made the

> tubing swell up and turned milky white. I said then if

>

>

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So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked better for me.nYou could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also garlic oil or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she was little.Good luck! Let us know what happens.Judith

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There are some 3% H202 that do not have other harmful ingredients in it. One

brand is Swan? (there is a drawing of a swan on the label) found at Walmart, but

in a yahoogroup, this was mentioned, and i don't find it there anymore. Read

the ingredients. Other people

have called manufacturer and they say theirs is pure no other harmful ingredient

in it.

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Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.

The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.

Dan

>

> So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

> strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my

> ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

> better for me.

>

> n

>

>

> You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room

> temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also garlic oil

> or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the

> latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she

> was little.

>

> Good luck! Let us know what happens.

>

> Judith

>

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I have used h2o2 for an itching ear. It fizzed awhile, then stopped. Itch went away. I know a man who was advised by his doc to use white distilled vinegar for the same thing. He did and cured his ear infection immediately. We use it for washing all store-bought produce and to wash white clothes in lieu of clorox. and to wash floors, degrease, etc. It is far far cheaper than any apple cider vinegar. I use it for a 5 second rinse after brushing my teeth and using my water pik. I then rinse with water, then with mouthwash, then final rinse with water. I think it reduces plaque buildup, but it should only be used for a matter of a few seconds and immediately rinsed out. Over use or improper use would eat away tooth enamel.

Re: Re: Taking garlic "medicinally" while having Crohn's

> Yes, it's very effective.> Feels like water, just that it fizzes as it works on organics.> That's a good thing, because the fizzing tells you it's working and> when it stops, you're done.> Of course it's sterile, it kills stuff...>> I use regular drugstore variety 3% H2O2.> some people get all bent out of shape insisting on food grade.> That's nonsense.>> ChuckSo I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked better for me.n------------------------------------List Home Page:http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSOBooks:DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely MD and Appleton, ND

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> I have used h2o2 for an itching ear. It fizzed awhile, then stopped. > Itch went away. I know a man who was advised by his doc to use white > distilled vinegar for the same thing. Interesting re: the H2O2 and stopping itching. When I used it last night and this morning, it caused itching that nearly drove me crazy. That's not to say that it's not gradually helping. It now seems to be. But the effect (helpping effect) certainly has not been immediate in my case.I've used vinegar in my ears in the past. Sometimes it works; sometimes not. Actually, I have ear drops that are basically acetic acid in a purified oil base, which normally help to keep the Ph balance good in my ears. But when I occasionally get an infection, something else is needed. n__________________________________________n Van Til is the author of Confessions of a Catholic: My Life with the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction, soon to be released by WordPower Publishing--

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In my experience  using H2O2 in my ear  does help to some extent  but

it doesn't finish the job  and if used too often  it dries out the

tissues-  not good for the ear drum.

This is why I use an infusion of  garlic in olive oil.   It  doesn't

dry out the tissues and the garlic   just  sucks out the infection 

almost immediately   and it doesn't come back.   You can purchase this

preparation or  simply  make it yourself.   Only takes  1 drop  so

massive amounts  are not necessary.

JMHO

zoe

n Van Til wrote:

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:07:13 -0400, G Simpkins

wrote:

> I have used h2o2 for an itching ear. It fizzed awhile, then

stopped.

> Itch went away. I know a man who was advised by his doc to use

white

> distilled vinegar for the same thing.

Interesting re: the H2O2 and stopping itching. When I used it last

night and this morning, it caused itching that nearly drove

me crazy. That's not to say that it's not gradually helping. It now

seems to be. But the effect (helpping effect) certainly has not been

immediate in my case.

I've used vinegar in my ears in the past. Sometimes it works;

sometimes not. Actually, I have ear drops that are basically acetic

acid in a purified oil base, which normally help to keep the Ph balance

good in my ears. But when I occasionally get an infection, something

else is needed. 

n

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My Life with the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction,

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DMSO, even just 10% mixed with CS will enhance delivery

into cells. DMSO opens a pore in the cell membrane and

actively transports the CS. I have used it orally to kick

a flu bug that was trying to come back. Felt better within

an hour.

Garnet

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bhangchai wrote:

>

>

> Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.

> The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.

>

> Dan

>

>

> >

> > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

> > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my

> > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

> > better for me.

> >

> > n

> >

> >

> > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room

> > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also garlic oil

> > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the

> > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she

> > was little.

> >

> > Good luck! Let us know what happens.

> >

> > Judith

> >

>

>

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I would be afraid to try DMSO in my ear because of the potential for

itching. I tried DMSO on my neck once (diluted) and the itching was

pretty bad, I can't imagine that inside my ear canal where I can't

scratch it.

Alan

> DMSO, even just 10% mixed with CS will enhance delivery

> into cells. DMSO opens a pore in the cell membrane and

> actively transports the CS. I have used it orally to kick

> a flu bug that was trying to come back. Felt better within

> an hour.

>

> Garnet

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>

> bhangchai wrote:

>>

>>

>> Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.

>> The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.

>>

>> Dan

>>

>>

>>  >

>>  > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

>>  > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my

>>  > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

>>  > better for me.

>>  >

>>  > n

>>  >

>>  >

>>  > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room

>>  > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also garlic oil

>>  > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the

>>  > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she

>>  > was little.

>>  >

>>  > Good luck! Let us know what happens.

>>  >

>>  > Judith

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When I use DMSO in my ears it is always very dilute,

5% DMSO and 95% CS, it does not itch.

I have also used Peppermint oil neat and then wiped

my finger over it with 30% DMSO which does not

deposit much, with no itching but great relieve of

congestion.

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Alan wrote:

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>

> I would be afraid to try DMSO in my ear because of the potential for

> itching. I tried DMSO on my neck once (diluted) and the itching was

> pretty bad, I can't imagine that inside my ear canal where I can't

> scratch it.

>

> Alan

>

> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Garnet <garnet@...

> <mailto:garnet%40grandecom.net>> wrote:

> > DMSO, even just 10% mixed with CS will enhance delivery

> > into cells. DMSO opens a pore in the cell membrane and

> > actively transports the CS. I have used it orally to kick

> > a flu bug that was trying to come back. Felt better within

> > an hour.

> >

> > Garnet

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>

> >

> >

> > bhangchai wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.

> >> The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.

> >>

> >> Dan

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full

> >> > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength.

> And my

> >> > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked

> >> > better for me.

> >> >

> >> > n

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room

> >> > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also

> garlic oil

> >> > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the

> >> > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she

> >> > was little.

> >> >

> >> > Good luck! Let us know what happens.

> >> >

> >> > Judith

>

> --

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>

>

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I have pure DMSO. So would I first dilute to 70% strength, then use it 1:10 DMSO:CS?

Re: Re: Taking garlic "medicinally" while having Crohn's

DMSO, even just 10% mixed with CS will enhance deliveryinto cells. DMSO opens a pore in the cell membrane andactively transports the CS. I have used it orally to kicka flu bug that was trying to come back. Felt better withinan hour.Garnet--------http://www.ldndatabase.com/forumhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_InformationDr Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDNhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPAbhangchai wrote:> > > Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.> The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.> > Dan> > > >> > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then full> > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full strength. And my> > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar worked> > better for me.> >> > n> >> >> > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to room> > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also garlic oil> > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I used the> > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she> > was little.> >> > Good luck! Let us know what happens.> >> > Judith> >> >

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No just use the pure DMSO to make 10% which would

be one part DMSO and 9 parts CS.

Measure out the CS and then add the measured DMSO

to the CS slowly to control the heat release. It won't be

much with a 10% solution but it's good practice.

You just don't want to add the CS to pure DMSO, as the

heat release is more concentrated.

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G Simpkins wrote:

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>

> I have pure DMSO. So would I first dilute to 70% strength, then use it

> 1:10 DMSO:CS?

>

>

> * Re: Re: Taking garlic " medicinally " while having

> Crohn's

>

>

>

> DMSO, even just 10% mixed with CS will enhance delivery

> into cells. DMSO opens a pore in the cell membrane and

> actively transports the CS. I have used it orally to kick

> a flu bug that was trying to come back. Felt better within

> an hour.

>

> Garnet

>

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> <

>

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> bhangchai wrote:

> >

> >

> > Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.

> > The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.

> >

> > Dan

> >

> >

> > >

> > > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then

> full

> > > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full

> strength. And my

> > > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar

> worked

> > > better for me.

> > >

> > > n

> > >

> > >

> > > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to

> room

> > > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also

> garlic oil

> > > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I

> used the

> > > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she

> > > was little.

> > >

> > > Good luck! Let us know what happens.

> > >

> > > Judith

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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> > bhangchai wrote:> >> >> > Try mixing half H2O2 and half colloidal silver.> > The H2O2 will help the CS to penetrate so it can work.> >> > Dan> >> > > > >> > > So I went and bought some 3% H202. First tried it diluted. Then> full> > > strength. I didn't hear it fizzing, a tiny bit at full> strength. And my> > > ear hurts worse than it did before. So far, the cider vinegar> worked> > > better for me.> > >> > > n> > >> > >> > > You could try using colloidal silver drops in your ear (warm to> room> > > temp first by setting bottle in a dish of warm water). Also> garlic oil> > > or mullein oil (usually available at health food stores). I> used the> > > latter with great success for my daughter's ear infections when she> > > was little.> > >> > > Good luck! Let us know what happens.> > >> > > Judith> > >> >> >> >