Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 From what I can find. Some " sources " are saying between 30-35 gms per sitting. Others are saying between 60-100 depending on the health of the persons digestive tract and the amount of good microflora in the intestines. Also, found that athletes should eat at least 20 to 40 grams of protein per meal depending on your overall diet, how many meals you eat per day, your weight, sex, and body structure. Athletes who train hard every day need the maximum amount of protein. Non-athletes, and petite individuals need the least. Here is why I believe it is best to go by lean body mass when determining how much protein to consume. Consider the situation of a person who weighs 300 pounds. If this guy is a competitive weight lifter, he's got a completely different body structure than someone who just eats a lot of food. The lifter's body is mostly muscle. The eater's body is mostly fat. Are they both going to need the same amount of protein? Hardly! Why? Because the lifter's body weight is mostly composed of muscle cells, which are mostly protein, and need a constant supply of dietary protein for maintenance and repair. The eater's body weight is mostly composed of fat cells, which are mostly fat (duhh!), and need very little protein for maintenance and repair. Therefore, these two 300 pound people do not have the same protein requirement—even though they weigh the same amount. 50 gms may be reasonable for some people. Of course, it depends on your weight. You don't want to consume more protein than your body needs. Too much protein could slow your fat loss if it means you are getting too many calories consuming the extra protein. However, a little too much is better than too little. You need the extra protein to initially build the muscle. Once you have got the extra muscle, it takes less protein to maintain that muscle. Andyman > Okay...I need some tips, ideas, lots of inspiration, and motivation - I am > not asking for a lot, huh???? > > > I am in my 3rd week of the challenge..and everything is going great...I am > actually considering starting the challenge > over because my sister wants to do this too. She ask if we could do the > challenge together...don't know if BFL will > allow that....but that isn't my concern/question. > > I will be going on vacation in 3 weeks, 7/13 - 7/22 or longer depending if > anyone is coming into the beach home...if not we get to stay longer if they > are then we will have to leave on the 22nd. Anyone have any good tips for > staying on plan while on vacation??? I am already planning on taking the > blender and my shakes so thats not much of a problem and really eating isn't > that much of a problem as we always keep fresh fruits and vegetables > available to grab.....however, along with the good stuff will be lurking the > bad stuff....(which I can probably deal with) but here is the main > hurdle....Getting my Weight Training in... > > I think I can deal with the eating out...because I will just order chicken, > or Steak, rice or potatoe and vegetable which is on program I will just have > to make sure that I take the extra portions home to have the next day. Any > suggestions??? I can't take all of my weight stuff that I have at home. The > cardio days will be a breeze because I can run on the beach. > > All the tips, ideas, inspiration, and motivation you can munster will be > greatly appreciated to help me stay focused while on vacation.... > I will have to print them...because I can't get to my email from there....no > internet connection. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 so remind me what is recommended proportion of lean body weight to daily protein consumption? > >Reply-To: bodyforlife >To: bodyforlife >Subject: Re: Protein >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:23:14 -0000 > >From what I can find. Some " sources " are saying between 30-35 gms >per sitting. Others are saying between 60-100 depending on the >health of the persons digestive tract and the amount of good >microflora in the intestines. > >Also, found that athletes should eat at least 20 to 40 grams of >protein per meal depending on your overall diet, how many meals you >eat per day, your weight, sex, and body structure. Athletes who train >hard every day need the maximum amount of protein. Non-athletes, and >petite individuals need the least. > >Here is why I believe it is best to go by lean body mass when >determining how much protein to consume. Consider the situation of a >person who weighs 300 pounds. If this guy is a competitive weight >lifter, he's got a completely different body structure than someone >who just eats a lot of food. The lifter's body is mostly muscle. The >eater's body is mostly fat. Are they both going to need the same >amount of protein? Hardly! Why? Because the lifter's body weight is >mostly composed of muscle cells, which are mostly protein, and need a >constant supply of dietary protein for maintenance and repair. The >eater's body weight is mostly composed of fat cells, which are mostly >fat (duhh!), and need very little protein for maintenance and repair. >Therefore, these two 300 pound people do not have the same protein >requirement—even though they weigh the same amount. > >50 gms may be reasonable for some people. Of course, it depends on >your weight. You don't want to consume more protein than your body >needs. Too much protein could slow your fat loss if it means you are >getting too many calories consuming the extra protein. However, a >little too much is better than too little. You need the extra >protein to initially build the muscle. Once you have got the extra >muscle, it takes less protein to maintain that muscle. > >Andyman > > > > Okay...I need some tips, ideas, lots of inspiration, and >motivation - I am > > not asking for a lot, huh???? > > > > > > I am in my 3rd week of the challenge..and everything is going >great...I am > > actually considering starting the challenge > > over because my sister wants to do this too. She ask if we could >do the > > challenge together...don't know if BFL will > > allow that....but that isn't my concern/question. > > > > I will be going on vacation in 3 weeks, 7/13 - 7/22 or longer >depending if > > anyone is coming into the beach home...if not we get to stay longer >if they > > are then we will have to leave on the 22nd. Anyone have any good >tips for > > staying on plan while on vacation??? I am already planning on >taking the > > blender and my shakes so thats not much of a problem and really >eating isn't > > that much of a problem as we always keep fresh fruits and vegetables > > available to grab.....however, along with the good stuff will be >lurking the > > bad stuff....(which I can probably deal with) but here is the main > > hurdle....Getting my Weight Training in... > > > > I think I can deal with the eating out...because I will just order >chicken, > > or Steak, rice or potatoe and vegetable which is on program I will >just have > > to make sure that I take the extra portions home to have the next >day. Any > > suggestions??? I can't take all of my weight stuff that I have at >home. The > > cardio days will be a breeze because I can run on the beach. > > > > All the tips, ideas, inspiration, and motivation you can munster >will be > > greatly appreciated to help me stay focused while on vacation.... > > I will have to print them...because I can't get to my email from >there....no > > internet connection. > > > > Thanks, > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 1-1.5 gm protein per 1 lb of lean body mass if you are trying to lose fat. Andyman > > > Okay...I need some tips, ideas, lots of inspiration, and > >motivation - I am > > > not asking for a lot, huh???? > > > > > > > > > I am in my 3rd week of the challenge..and everything is going > >great...I am > > > actually considering starting the challenge > > > over because my sister wants to do this too. She ask if we could > >do the > > > challenge together...don't know if BFL will > > > allow that....but that isn't my concern/question. > > > > > > I will be going on vacation in 3 weeks, 7/13 - 7/22 or longer > >depending if > > > anyone is coming into the beach home...if not we get to stay longer > >if they > > > are then we will have to leave on the 22nd. Anyone have any good > >tips for > > > staying on plan while on vacation??? I am already planning on > >taking the > > > blender and my shakes so thats not much of a problem and really > >eating isn't > > > that much of a problem as we always keep fresh fruits and vegetables > > > available to grab.....however, along with the good stuff will be > >lurking the > > > bad stuff....(which I can probably deal with) but here is the main > > > hurdle....Getting my Weight Training in... > > > > > > I think I can deal with the eating out...because I will just order > >chicken, > > > or Steak, rice or potatoe and vegetable which is on program I will > >just have > > > to make sure that I take the extra portions home to have the next > >day. Any > > > suggestions??? I can't take all of my weight stuff that I have at > >home. The > > > cardio days will be a breeze because I can run on the beach. > > > > > > All the tips, ideas, inspiration, and motivation you can munster > >will be > > > greatly appreciated to help me stay focused while on vacation.... > > > I will have to print them...because I can't get to my email from > >there....no > > > internet connection. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I target 1g per lb of total body weight. If I only ate 1-1.5g per LEAN body mass, then I would be short on calories for the day.....therefore Id have to make them up somehow......... I am very carb sensitive, so I sure DONT want to make them up there, and I dont want to eat useless calories either. Anyway, the way Ive been doing it has worked for me I lost 23 inches and 20 lbs on the first challenge(7 more after the end of the challenge), and replaced fat with alot of muscle. Just my .02 worth ~~ ps, I target roughly 30g's protein to 15 g's carbs per meal. And I cut carbs on last 2 meals of the day, while eating a heavier carb meal directly after weights. (just in case someone is curious?) 1-1.5 gm protein per 1 lb of lean body mass if you are trying to lose fat.Andyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I target about 30 gms per meal and usually get more which means I am getting about 20 gms more than my total body weight. I think it is just a guide to give you an idea how much to eat. You, like myself are getting all the calories that we need from protein. However, my carbs are generally higher than 15 gms per meal. Andyman > I target 1g per lb of total body weight. If I only ate 1-1.5g per LEAN body mass, then I would be short on calories for the day.....therefore Id have to make them up somehow......... I am very carb sensitive, so I sure DONT want to make them up there, and I dont want to eat useless calories either. Anyway, the way Ive been doing it has worked for me I lost 23 inches and 20 lbs on the first challenge(7 more after the end of the challenge), and replaced fat with alot of muscle. > Just my .02 worth > ~~ > ps, I target roughly 30g's protein to 15 g's carbs per meal. And I cut carbs on last 2 meals of the day, while eating a heavier carb meal directly after weights. (just in case someone is curious?) > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ > > > 1-1.5 gm protein per 1 lb of lean body mass if you are trying to lose > fat. > > Andyman > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 1g protein per 1 lb. *total bodyweight* isn't going to lessen the fat- burning effect. As you yourself said, someone at the stage of wanting to add more muscle can/should eat more protein than someone who merely wants to maintain. AndyD > 1-1.5 gm protein per 1 lb of lean body mass if you are trying to lose > fat. > > Andyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 < I target 1g per lb of total body weight. If I only ate 1-1.5g per LEAN body mass, then I would be short on calories for the day.....therefore Id have to make them up somehow......... I am very carb sensitive, so I sure DONT want to make them up there, and I dont want to eat useless calories either. Anyway, the way Ive been doing it has worked for me I lost 23 inches and 20 lbs on the first challenge(7 more after the end of the challenge), and replaced fat with alot of muscle. > Congrats on the success! < ps, I target roughly 30g's protein to 15 g's carbs per meal. And I cut carbs on last 2 meals of the day, while eating a heavier carb meal directly after weights. (just in case someone is curious?) > Well, you have to experiment and see what works best on your body. For the average person, though, a carb-load immediately after working out is detrimental to fat-burning, and carb-loading *at end-of-day meals* is optimal. Regards, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 Very true and good point made This happens to be working for me at the moment ......But if I plateau, then Ill have to change things around Blessings, ~~ Well, you have to experiment and see what works best on your body. For the average person, though, a carb-load immediately after working out is detrimental to fat-burning, and carb-loading *at end-of-day meals* is optimal.Regards,Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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