Guest guest Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Hi, I tried the methylation protocol from Rich van K., and did not respond. I also failed to respond to glutathione precursors. (Taking glutathione itself orally is a waste, as it is digested into its individual peptides) I also added methionine to the protocol; synthesizing methionine requires the methylation pathway. I have also tried d-ribose and NADH, both with no effect. I was even tested with IVIG (immunoglobulins) for a highly activated complement pathway; it lowered the active complement but did nothing to the symptoms. At $18K a throw, Medicare deemed it not worthwhile. (I was lucky to even be able to try it.) The things that have helped have been carnitine (or acetyl-carnitine), thiamine (injected), hydroxycobalamine (by injection), CoQ10, and CFS Support Formula or FM Support Formula from Labs (ProHealth's FM formula also works). Neurontin and amitriptyline help with the pain, over and above Oxycontin. I needed Fosamax, calcium and magnesium to bring me out of osteoporosis (T=-2.7); I need magnesium in 2/3 the amount of calcium (i.e. 600 mg Ca/400mg Mg 2X/day). [NOTE: neurontin interferes with calcium and magnesium absorption, so they have to be taken at different times.] Then i have to take a bunch of antihistamines and nasal steroids, as my allergy season starts 1/1 and runs to 12/31. I may have a somewhat different version of CFS than a lot of you. I did have an NMR test for mitochondrial function (research subject) which found 0 aerobic capacity, and do have severe day-after crashes. That means mitochondrial involvement for sure. Of course, since there is no systematic work on complete pathways, and research studies only show one facet, I can't say for sure that mitochondrial dysfunction is the root cause. But as with everything, you need to try it for yourself to find out what works for you. At least the methylation and glutathione precursor protocols are fairly cheap (unlike ribose, for instance) and easy to do. I also have a poor immune response (require 2 Pneumovax shots to get protection which lasts less than 4 years), which has allowed a chronic yeast infection, that occasionally flares up very painfully and has cost me one testicle so far. Gerald R. , Ph.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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