Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Is it normal that the silver electrodes of a colloidal silver system become totally oxydise(black) after only 2 use? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Yes, you may clean the electrodes. Greetings, Claessens http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens message checked by Norton Antivirus Re: coloidal silver Is it normal that the silver electrodes of a colloidal silver system become totally oxydise(black) after only 2 use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Re: coloidal silver And most use disilled or deionized water.. Schauberger would not like it very much...using dead water.. ******* You MUST use distilled ( " dead " ) water, because the only water that does not contain minerals is distilled. Minerals cause the water to carry too much of an electrical charge, which interferes in the creation of the ionic silver. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 I found a device that structures the distilled water. I used to pour it from one bottle to another through a connector that made a vortex, but now i use a japanese machine that makes a vortex in something similar to a blender. Schauberger would would still complain that it is distilled and not cold, but he would like the fact that it is structured. The japanese machine is called " actimo " On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 04:25 AM, Mikael Bi wrote: > And most use disilled or deionized water.. Schauberger would not like > it very much...using dead water.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2002 Report Share Posted September 8, 2002 Is this off topic for the rife list? We really need a rife- alt-health..... Anyway, > What are the parameter to reach a golden liquid? Is it just a question of time? Using the pure silver electrodes in distilled water (use very hot to boiling hot to speed the process) it should take 20 minutes or less, assuming a small enough amount of water. > A don't know if AC is good because I think AC is better since it is stable and will last for months plus the particle sizes are smaller. DC is fine, though, just use it within a month after making it. turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 > This AC vs DC is new to me. Could you possibly list your sources for the info you mentioned so I can look into it further? This is just general knowledge from my days on the CS listservers many years ago when AC process was first described and the afficianados began making it that way. The fact that the particle size is much smaller is easy to verify under a microscope. That it lasts longer is also easy to verify - just try some months-old DC CS. AC process lasts years without oxidizing. Back in the days when people expected colloidal silver to be yellow, I would make a big batch of HVAC type (2 gallons) then make a small (16 or 32 oz) strong batch of DC process and mix them together before dispensing in bottles. I put on the label " This Colloidal Silver is made by a unique process of combining both DC and AC process to provide the small particle size and increased effectiveness of AC along with the yellow color of DC. " <g> I eventually stopped putting the DC process in since people got used to AC process and it still decreased shelf life. I did a google search on " HVAC process colloidal silver " and got a bunch of hits. Most are from people trying to sell stuff, so not very reliable. There is an HVAC CS maker in the $800 range (microprocessor controlled <g>) along with HVAC vendors touting how much better their product is versus DC process. Then there's the DC process vendor talking about how crappy AC process is compared to his - but then he's talking about HVAC *arc* process which does probably produce some nasty byproducts (and tastes awful to boot). There are no HVAC producers I know who use this process so I certainly would not trust him. The best thing to do would be to look through the CS listserver archives (I don't know where they are) from about 5 or so years ago when we were first experimenting with and comparing the two processes. I recently modified my HVAC process to increase the strength. I used to just run three or four hours until the transformer and colloid got too hot to handle (it starts out with room temperature water). Then filter and dispense. The first couple batches I made this way I had a friend verify the strength using a mass spectrometer as around 10ppm. The last batch I made, I ran for about three hours, turned the thing off until everything cooled down (about three hours) then ran another three hours. An all day affair, but I think it did get proportionally stronger (due to the taste, plus it exhibits a stronger Tyndall effect) but I have not verified how much stronger. My favorite use of colloidal silver is as a nasal spray. Unfortunately, it has been near impossible in the last couple of years to find small lots of nasal spray bottles for sale. Finally, Essential Supplies began carrying them again (http://www.essentialsupplies.com) They used to sell an excellent hard plastic nasal pump sprayer and now they sell a crappy squeeze bottle for the same price (about $1 each), but it's better than nothing. I attach one to my bottles and advertise " For a limited time, includes a free nasal spray bottle! " turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2002 Report Share Posted September 15, 2002 > Hi Turf; interesting post. I spend a lot of time on the CS list, and although I > don't know for sure, I believe most of the HVAC stuff is made using something on > the order of neon sign transformers - e.g., 15 kv @30 mA That is correct. I use a 12,500 60ma. > and some sort of arcing > is involved between the silver electrode and the sol. No. Arcing produces a nasty tasting solution and may contain some unwanted compounds by binding with nitrogen from the air. Once I was making a two gallon batch, though, and left it unattended. Not a good idea. The water level dropped and it started arcing. The resulting product was very strong, but I would not use it for internal use. Makes a good wound wash - I still have some left. Also broke the glass jar I was using due to the excessive heat. > pointer, a reasonable strength - 10 to 20 ppm - and good stability. The arguments > on the superiority of ionic over colloidal or vice versa will never cease, and I > suspect it doesn't make a helluva lottuva bigguva much anyway; they are both > good, they both work, True. That is what I made clear in the post previous to the last one. It is probably not worth the time, or danger, when making CS for personal use to make HVAC. turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2002 Report Share Posted October 18, 2002 turf, what is the website address for collodial silver? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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