Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 My response would be adoption. Everything else associated with ART would be not in keeping with the teachings of the Church. Les Ruppersberger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 I know for a fact the only thing the church allows here is adoption. The CCL “Family Foundations” magazine published an article a while back on all the methods of infertility treatment (including some rather obscure ones!) and the Church’s official stance. The bottom line is that no treatment can replace the “act of love” necessary between the husband and wife to conceive. This means they allow clomid, progesterone supplementation, etc, to support a “natural” conception, but no IVF, donor sperm (or donor lover, for that matter!), etc. For the record (although not pertinent in this situation), sperm CAN be collected for testing (i.e. sperm count) but only with a perforated condom used during love making or by collecting it from the woman’s uterus/vagina immediately following natural lovemaking. Male infertility I recently was contacted by a young couple questioning what options were open to them in accordance with Catholic Church teaching. She is 25, he is 30, married 3 years, trying to conceive for the last 2 years. A recent workup has revealed that he was born without either vas deferens. Morally speaking, I know what my answer to them will have to be, but I wanted to be able to tell them that I had checked with the " experts " for their opionions as well. Sylvia Corson, RN FCP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Sylvia: I found the CCL article I was referring to this morning; if you or the couple wants a copy, it is in the Family Foundations July-August 2004 issue, Volume XXXI, Number 1. I’m assuming copies could be obtained through CCLI.org. Here are the article’s highlights: “When is reproductive technology is morally right? The Rule of Thumb is: 1. Any procedure which assists marital intercourse in reaching its procreative potential is moral. 2. Procedures which add a “third party” into the act of conception, or which substitute a laboratory procedure for intercourse, are not acceptable.” Technologies compatible with Catholic teachings are: 1. NFP 2. General medical evaluation of both spouses for infertility 3. Post-coital test to assess sperm number (taken after normal intercourse) 4. Appropriate evaluation and treatment of male factor deficiency, when seminal fluid sampes are obtained from a non-lubricated, perforated condom after normal marital intercourse. 5. Assessment of uterine and tubal structures by imaging (i.e. ultrasound, hysterosalpingogram, etc) 6. Appropriate medical treatment of ovulatory dysfunction 7. Appropriate (usually surgical) correction of mechanical blocks to tubal patency NOTE: If tubal function cannot be restored, transfer of an ovum past the point of blockage into the uterine cavity (“low tubal ovum transfer or LTOT) preceded by normal intercourse during the fertile phase. Technologies under Discussion (neither approved nor disapproved): 1. Gamete intra-fallopian transfer (GIFT) so conception occurs in the woman’s body 2. Intrauterine insemination (IUI) of “licitly obtained” (normal intercourse) but technologically prepared semen sample (washed, etc) Technologies not allowed: 1. Obtaining semen sample by masturbation for either diagnosis or artificial insemination 2. IVF 3. Zygote intra-fallopian transfer (ZIFT) 4. Intracytoplamic sperm injection (ICSI) 5. Ovum donation 6. Surrogate uterus My note: The article does not say either way, but I’m assuming the sperm used in the GIFT procedure must be “licitly obtained” from a normal act of intercourse also. Hope this helps! My husband and I are facing secondary infertility (we are age 26 and 29) and it was a lot easier for us to understand where the Church draws the line even after just reading the “rule of thumb” above. Before then we wee confused as to why things like Clomid and progesterone and HCG supplementation (offered to us by Dr. Hilgers) were OK if the others were not. Kim Male infertility I recently was contacted by a young couple questioning what options were open to them in accordance with Catholic Church teaching. She is 25, he is 30, married 3 years, trying to conceive for the last 2 years. A recent workup has revealed that he was born without either vas deferens. Morally speaking, I know what my answer to them will have to be, but I wanted to be able to tell them that I had checked with the " experts " for their opionions as well. Sylvia Corson, RN FCP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The only way to obtain sperm in this case would be aspiration from the testes, a technology that has not been discussed. If GIFT or IUI were considered licit, would the use of an aspirated sperm sample preceded or followed by normal intercourse be licit? -----Original Message----- Technologies under Discussion (neither approved nor disapproved): 1. Gamete intra-fallopian transfer (GIFT) so conception occurs in the woman’s body 2. Intrauterine insemination (IUI) of “licitly obtained†(normal intercourse) but technologically prepared semen sample (washed, etc) Technologies not allowed: 1. Obtaining semen sample by masturbation for either diagnosis or artificial insemination 2. IVF 3. Zygote intra-fallopian transfer (ZIFT) 4. Intracytoplamic sperm injection (ICSI) 5. Ovum donation 6. Surrogate uterus My note: The article does not say either way, but I’m assuming the sperm used in the GIFT procedure must be “licitly obtained†from a normal act of intercourse also. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The focus in most of the Church’s views seems to be more on how the sperm is obtained, and it would appear that anything other than the man ejaculating into his wife is prohibited. The difference I see in your proposal from the GIFT and IUI is that this has not happened. GIFT and IUI consideration specifically mention that the sperm used must be that which is acquired from the normal act of intercourse (either from the woman’s body or from a perforated condom, I’m assuming). The aspiration of sperm, even in close proximity to intercourse, is still a separate act that does not acquire the sperm in the accepted way. I’m not a bible expert, but I’m assuming some of this goes back to when God killed Onan for ‘spilling his seed on the ground’. RE: Male infertility The only way to obtain sperm in this case would be aspiration from the testes, a technology that has not been discussed. If GIFT or IUI were considered licit, would the use of an aspirated sperm sample preceded or followed by normal intercourse be licit? -----Original Message----- Technologies under Discussion (neither approved nor disapproved): 1. Gamete intra-fallopian transfer (GIFT) so conception occurs in the woman’s body 2. Intrauterine insemination (IUI) of “licitly obtained†(normal intercourse) but technologically prepared semen sample (washed, etc) Technologies not allowed: 1. Obtaining semen sample by masturbation for either diagnosis or artificial insemination 2. IVF 3. Zygote intra-fallopian transfer (ZIFT) 4. Intracytoplamic sperm injection (ICSI) 5. Ovum donation 6. Surrogate uterus My note: The article does not say either way, but I’m assuming the sperm used in the GIFT procedure must be “licitly obtained†from a normal act of intercourse also. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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