Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 OH OH!!! MY kinda family!! Welcome... my son has Hirschsprung's AND mds.... and of course, the Hirschsprung's was diagnosed first, and the MDS, not until he was 16 mos old. Look forward to learning more about you and your son!! ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 The Hirschsprung's was an immediate problem...well..sorta... they actually sent him home from the hospital when he was born, without having a BM! By the middle of that night, I knew something was really wrong...still no BM, and he was sooooooo distended and started spitting up the bile. So, his first surgery was at 3 days old... kind of an " emergency " colostomy, and then he had another at 4 months, and the pull thru at 6 months. (Of course, HD doesn't end with the pull thru, as much as some doctors want to tell you it does...hmph!) So... time went on, I was pregnant again, and had a genetics appt about the HD...didn't have a babysitter, so I just happened to take with me.... I could tell the geneticist was more interested in him than me...she stared at him the entire time, and finally at the end, just outright asked if she could do his blood work because, " he has some characteristics of a chromosome anomaly " she said. Two weeks later, MDS! Over that 16 mos, my husband and I agreed something else was wrong with him... but we just could not get anyone to listen to us! The ped would say he was just delayed on his milestones because of all the surgery... all those doctors, all those nurses, and no one ever saw anything unusual in him :::shrug:::: So, tell me about your son...how's the hirschsprung's....and what's leading you towards MDS?? I'll send some pictures of to you personal email...but there is also a page of group pictures on one of the sites, i can verify which....I remember when was diagnosed, I didn't know what MDS was 'supposed' to look like... ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi! When and why did they do testing for the mds, 16 months? We've not been diagnosed yet, for mds, but he has so many other characteristics except the doesn't look like it! How old was your son when he had the surgery for the Hirschsprung's? This is so new and wild for me. S LDSAngel77@... wrote: OH OH!!! MY kinda family!! Welcome... my son has Hirschsprung's AND mds.... and of course, the Hirschsprung's was diagnosed first, and the MDS, not until he was 16 mos old. Look forward to learning more about you and your son!! ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Wow!!! What a beautiful family!!!! Your son does not look ds! You are so brave to continue with your family, so blessed with all of your other children. Also, pretty bizarre that the genetist was more interested in your son than what you were there for. Well, when Will was born in 2003, he also didn't have a BM and after many horrible days and many fights with the nurses at the ped's office, I flew in the door and told them to do something. We landed in the hopsital, they bungled every thing, so we immeidately flew to Dallas to the Children's Medical Hospital, my father-in-law is a doctor, so was able to get us in. We had a diagnosis and stayed there for a week. When Will was 6 weeks old, we came home and irrigated his bowels for two weeks, went back to Dallas for the pull-thru and he has been fine ever since, on that front. We've not tried to potty train yet, I'm sure that will be interesting!!! He's always had feeding problems so we started speech therapy early. Also had PT b/c he was very stiff and now we have OT b/c of a texture sensitivity and the tremors and the stiffness. At 12 month checkup, the ped ( a new one, we fired the first one :)referred us to a neurologist, thinking maybe he was autistic (NOT) or cerebral palsy b/c he has tremors in his arms sometimes. The neurologist ordered an MRI, found nothing, told us to get more physical, OT and speech. The doctor did say, b/c of Will's history with HD and when the doc noticed the palmer creases, he said we could do some genetic testing if we wanted to. I still really didnt understand why and thought, well, I'm not sure what they are looking for but we can't do anything about it, so why go there. Now! That was a year ago, Will's speech has not progressed much, in fact, it has regressed. I began researching speech disorders and stumbled on the MDS! My speech therapist says, that he'll talk, don't worry, etc. I just though, wow, that's wild. Never heard of MDS and never in my wildest dreams would have thought about it. LIke your son, Will doesn't look like it and he seems very smart b/c since he cannot talk very well, he signs and even makes up his own signs. He can do anything you ask him, so his receptive speech is great. I want to have him tested, just to know and find out what we are dealing with. Thank you so much for writing me, as you can tell, I'm very new to this and appreciate anything you can tell me. Hope I didn't give you tmi! I'm working today, so I can't send a picture, but I'll try and send one when I get home so you can see what I'm talking about. LDSAngel77@... wrote: The Hirschsprung's was an immediate problem...well..sorta... they actually sent him home from the hospital when he was born, without having a BM! By the middle of that night, I knew something was really wrong...still no BM, and he was sooooooo distended and started spitting up the bile. So, his first surgery was at 3 days old... kind of an " emergency " colostomy, and then he had another at 4 months, and the pull thru at 6 months. (Of course, HD doesn't end with the pull thru, as much as some doctors want to tell you it does...hmph!) So... time went on, I was pregnant again, and had a genetics appt about the HD...didn't have a babysitter, so I just happened to take with me.... I could tell the geneticist was more interested in him than me...she stared at him the entire time, and finally at the end, just outright asked if she could do his blood work because, " he has some characteristics of a chromosome anomaly " she said. Two weeks later, MDS! Over that 16 mos, my husband and I agreed something else was wrong with him... but we just could not get anyone to listen to us! The ped would say he was just delayed on his milestones because of all the surgery... all those doctors, all those nurses, and no one ever saw anything unusual in him :::shrug:::: So, tell me about your son...how's the hirschsprung's....and what's leading you towards MDS?? I'll send some pictures of to you personal email...but there is also a page of group pictures on one of the sites, i can verify which....I remember when was diagnosed, I didn't know what MDS was 'supposed' to look like... ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 So, did Will have a colostomy? or were they able to bypass having one?? I think when was a baby, colostomy was standard, but I understand there are some new " one step " procedures now! So, has someone explained to you then that there is some kind of genetic link to HD and Down syndrome? Apparently, the first person ever diagnosed with HD was a child with down syndrome. It seems like a small correlation to me, 2-3% if I remember properly, but apparently that's enough to make the medical community take notice. I know of a couple other people, online, who's children have HD and DS...but NO ONE else that has HD and MDS! And yes, that single crease is another sign of Down syndrome...but I've heard of people who have it, and don't have Down's...so, I guess that's not a fool proof sign! does not have the single palmar crease. So, has the blood work been done, and you're just waiting on the results now? ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Well ...I'm glad you found the group here... and look forward to getting to know more about Will and your family.... Keep us posted on his testing! And of course, if you have any questions...this is a great group of people, with so many interesting and wonderful experiences!! ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Hi! No, Will did not have to have a colostomy. They were able to do it in one step, thankfully! Yes, I was aware of the link between HD and DS, but really never thought much about it. Then the palmer crease thing was related to me, still didn't think too much. Our neurologist asked us if we wanted to do some genetic testing, (this was last summer) but we declined b/c we didn't think there was a need. I didn't know about MDS then. Now, however, since his speech is reallly delayed along with the other characteristics and he has gross motor delays and sensory problems, I want to find out about the MDS. It is such a " coincidence " that he has so many things, I'm just really curious. I never thought much about anything being too wrong until I began writing things down that we've been dealing with over the past 2 years and working with OT and ST for. LIke you, everyone keeps and kept saying, " oh, he's just delayed b/c of the surgery early in life. " And, that may be, but I need to know for sure what is going on so we can be prepared and give him the best care and opportunity. As we would any child! The blood work has not been done. We are going to the ped in 3 weeks and I'm going to insist that we begin genetic testing. Ok, thank you so much for your interest and kindness. , Mother of Will 2 and Currie 11 LDSAngel77@... wrote: So, did Will have a colostomy? or were they able to bypass having one?? I think when was a baby, colostomy was standard, but I understand there are some new " one step " procedures now! So, has someone explained to you then that there is some kind of genetic link to HD and Down syndrome? Apparently, the first person ever diagnosed with HD was a child with down syndrome. It seems like a small correlation to me, 2-3% if I remember properly, but apparently that's enough to make the medical community take notice. I know of a couple other people, online, who's children have HD and DS...but NO ONE else that has HD and MDS! And yes, that single crease is another sign of Down syndrome...but I've heard of people who have it, and don't have Down's...so, I guess that's not a fool proof sign! does not have the single palmar crease. So, has the blood work been done, and you're just waiting on the results now? ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Thank you, Angel. LDSAngel77@... wrote: Well ...I'm glad you found the group here... and look forward to getting to know more about Will and your family.... Keep us posted on his testing! And of course, if you have any questions...this is a great group of people, with so many interesting and wonderful experiences!! ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 - Just so you are aware, it took us 6 weeks to get the results of the blood work done - Darlene - Mom to (9) and (7) > > Hi! No, Will did not have to have a colostomy. They were able to do it > in one step, thankfully! Yes, I was aware of the link between HD and DS, > but really never thought much about it. Then the palmer crease thing was > related to me, still didn't think too much. Our neurologist asked us if we > wanted to do some genetic testing, (this was last summer) but we declined > b/c we didn't think there was a need. I didn't know about MDS then. Now, > however, since his speech is reallly delayed along with the other > characteristics and he has gross motor delays and sensory problems, I want > to find out about the MDS. It is such a " coincidence " that he has so many > things, I'm just really curious. I never thought much about anything being > too wrong until I began writing things down that we've been dealing with > over the past 2 years and working with OT and ST for. LIke you, everyone > keeps and kept saying, " oh, he's just delayed b/c of the surgery early in > life. " And, that may be, but > I need to know for sure what is going on so we can be prepared and give > him the best care and opportunity. As we would any child! > > The blood work has not been done. We are going to the ped in 3 weeks > and I'm going to insist that we begin genetic testing. > > Ok, thank you so much for your interest and kindness. > > , > Mother of Will 2 and Currie 11 > > > LDSAngel77@... wrote: > So, did Will have a colostomy? or were they able to bypass > having one?? I > think when was a baby, colostomy was standard, but I understand > there > are some new " one step " procedures now! > > So, has someone explained to you then that there is some kind of genetic > link to HD and Down syndrome? Apparently, the first person ever > diagnosed with > HD was a child with down syndrome. It seems like a small correlation to > me, > 2-3% if I remember properly, but apparently that's enough to make > the medical > community take notice. I know of a couple other people, online, who's > children have HD and DS...but NO ONE else that has HD and MDS! > > And yes, that single crease is another sign of Down syndrome...but I've > heard of people who have it, and don't have Down's...so, I guess that's > not a > fool proof sign! does not have the single palmar crease. > > So, has the blood work been done, and you're just waiting on the results > now? > > > ~ANGEL~ > Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease > Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 > Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Darlene...do you know why so long? Ours took 2 weeks...and THAT felt like an eternity... 6 weeks must have been awful! ~ANGEL~ Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Oh, ok, gosh, I thought it might take a while, but not that long! Thanks for the heads up! Darlene Benoit wrote: - Just so you are aware, it took us 6 weeks to get the results of the blood work done - Darlene - Mom to (9) and (7) > > Hi! No, Will did not have to have a colostomy. They were able to do it > in one step, thankfully! Yes, I was aware of the link between HD and DS, > but really never thought much about it. Then the palmer crease thing was > related to me, still didn't think too much. Our neurologist asked us if we > wanted to do some genetic testing, (this was last summer) but we declined > b/c we didn't think there was a need. I didn't know about MDS then. Now, > however, since his speech is reallly delayed along with the other > characteristics and he has gross motor delays and sensory problems, I want > to find out about the MDS. It is such a " coincidence " that he has so many > things, I'm just really curious. I never thought much about anything being > too wrong until I began writing things down that we've been dealing with > over the past 2 years and working with OT and ST for. LIke you, everyone > keeps and kept saying, " oh, he's just delayed b/c of the surgery early in > life. " And, that may be, but > I need to know for sure what is going on so we can be prepared and give > him the best care and opportunity. As we would any child! > > The blood work has not been done. We are going to the ped in 3 weeks > and I'm going to insist that we begin genetic testing. > > Ok, thank you so much for your interest and kindness. > > , > Mother of Will 2 and Currie 11 > > > LDSAngel77@... wrote: > So, did Will have a colostomy? or were they able to bypass > having one?? I > think when was a baby, colostomy was standard, but I understand > there > are some new " one step " procedures now! > > So, has someone explained to you then that there is some kind of genetic > link to HD and Down syndrome? Apparently, the first person ever > diagnosed with > HD was a child with down syndrome. It seems like a small correlation to > me, > 2-3% if I remember properly, but apparently that's enough to make > the medical > community take notice. I know of a couple other people, online, who's > children have HD and DS...but NO ONE else that has HD and MDS! > > And yes, that single crease is another sign of Down syndrome...but I've > heard of people who have it, and don't have Down's...so, I guess that's > not a > fool proof sign! does not have the single palmar crease. > > So, has the blood work been done, and you're just waiting on the results > now? > > > ~ANGEL~ > Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease > Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 > Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 's blood test took 6 weeks too. Her geneticist said 6 weeks was the norm. Her skin biopsy results took 4 weeks. ( Mom to 7 months MDS) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Angel - I don't know, I thought it was because our Dr. was diagnosed with cancer in that time frame, but other doctors I have talked to said 6 to 8 weeks is the norm. Darlene > > Darlene...do you know why so long? Ours took 2 weeks...and THAT felt > like > an eternity... 6 weeks must have been awful! > > > ~ANGEL~ > Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease > Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 > Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Our blood results came back in two weeks, but they came back inconclusive (the blood was watered down too much during testing) and so we had to draw more blood and wait another two weeks - 4 weeks total. But we were initially told it only takes two weeks. Krysten mom to 1-1/2 (mds) and 3-1/2 Re: New Family! Angel - I don't know, I thought it was because our Dr. was diagnosed with cancer in that time frame, but other doctors I have talked to said 6 to 8 weeks is the norm. Darlene > > Darlene...do you know why so long? Ours took 2 weeks...and THAT felt > like > an eternity... 6 weeks must have been awful! > > > ~ANGEL~ > Mom to 13, Mosaic Down Syndrome/Hirschsprung's Disease > Lance 17, Tyler 14, 11 > Jaeda 9 and Shayne 3 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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