Re: vegetable emulsifier

[Guest guest]

>I am looking for good suggestions for vegetable emulsifiers for butters,

lotions and creams.

Hmmm..., do you mean vegetables that are emulsifiers or emulsifiers that are

derived from vegetables or from re-newable resources found in the plant kingdom?

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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[Guest guest]

Hi Maurice,

I am looking for the latter of the two. Emulsifiers derived from

vegetables (preferably from a renewable source).

Thanks Again

Ebony M.

>

> >I am looking for good suggestions for vegetable emulsifiers for

butters, lotions and creams.

>

> Hmmm..., do you mean vegetables that are emulsifiers or emulsifiers

that are derived from vegetables or from re-newable resources found

in the plant kingdom?

>

> Maurice

>

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> Maurice O. Hevey

> Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

> http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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[Guest guest]

>I am looking for the latter of the two. Emulsifiers derived from

>vegetables (preferably from a renewable source).

There are hundreds of emulsifiers and surfactants that are made from renewal,

vegetable resouces.

To help me limit the number, can you tell me what you want to do with these

emulsifiers.

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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[Guest guest]

Hi again,

I need an emulsifier that will help bind the water, oil and butters

in my lotions, cream and body butters. I have noticed that when I

combine my ingredients and they have cooled, the top layer is brittle

and the bottom is oily. There is also a bit of grittiness throughout

the product.

thanx again.

Ebony

>

> >I am looking for the latter of the two. Emulsifiers derived from

> >vegetables (preferably from a renewable source).

>

> There are hundreds of emulsifiers and surfactants that are made

from renewal, vegetable resouces.

>

> To help me limit the number, can you tell me what you want to do

with these emulsifiers.

>

> Maurice

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Maurice O. Hevey

> Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

> http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

> -------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

>Hi again,

>

>I need an emulsifier that will help bind the water, oil and butters

>in my lotions, cream and body butters. I have noticed that when I

>combine my ingredients and they have cooled, the top layer is brittle

>and the bottom is oily. There is also a bit of grittiness throughout

>the product.

>

> thanx again.

>Ebony

I think most people that begin to make lotions and creams use Emulsifying Wax

NF, wich is defined " as a waxy solid prepared from Cetostearyl Alcohol

containing a

polyoxyethylene derivative of a fatty acid ester of sorbitan. " I would call

this naturally derived.

Here's a list of emulsifiers that are either naturally derived or could be

naturally derived. It's always best to check with your vendor.

INCI Nomenclature ( HLB = HLB)

Glycol Distearate ( HLB = 1)

Sorbitan Trioleate ( HLB = 1.8)

Glycol Stearate ( HLB = 2.9)

Glyceryl Stearate ( HLB = 3.6)

Sorbitan Sesquioleate ( HLB = 3.7)

Glyceryl Stearate ( HLB = 3.8)

Sorbitan Oleate ( HLB = 4.3)

Sorbitan Stearate ( HLB = 4.7)

Sorbitan Isostearate ( HLB = 4.7)

Sorbitan Stearate (Sorbitan Monostearate NF) ( HLB = 4.7)

Steareth-2 ( HLB = 4.9)

Oleth-2 ( HLB = 4.9)

Calcium Stearoyl Lactylate ( HLB = 5.1)

Glyceryl te ( HLB = 5.2)

Ceteth-2 ( HLB = 5.3)

Glyceryl Stearate SE ( HLB = 5.8)

PEG-4 Dilaurate ( HLB = 6)

Methyl Glucose Sesquistearate ( HLB = 6.6)

Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate ( HLB = 8.3)

Sorbitan te ( HLB = 8.6)

PEG-40 Sorbitan Peroleate ( HLB = 9)

Laureth-4 ( HLB = 9.7)

PEG-20 Almond Glycerides ( HLB = 10)

PEG-25 Hydrogenated Castor Oil ( HLB = 10.8)

Glyceryl Stearate (and) PEG-100 Stearate ( HLB = 11)

Polysorbate 85 ( HLB = 11)

Oleth-10 ( HLB = 12.4)

Oleth-20 ( HLB = 12.4)

Oleth-10 / Polyoxyl 10 Oleyl Ether NF ( HLB = 12.4)

Ceteth-10 ( HLB = 12.9)

PEG-8 te ( HLB = 13)

Polysorbate 60 ( HLB = 14.9)

Polysorbate 60 NF ( HLB = 14.9)

PEG-20 Methyl Glucose Sesquistearate ( HLB = 15)

Polysorbate 80 ( HLB = 15)

Isosteareth-20 ( HLB = 15)

PEG-60 Almond Glycerides ( HLB = 15)

Polysorbate 80 NF ( HLB = 15)

Ceteareth-20 ( HLB = 15.2)

Oleth-20 ( HLB = 15.3)

Steareth-21 ( HLB = 15.5)

Ceteth-20 ( HLB = 15.7)

Isoceteth-20 ( HLB = 15.7)

Polysorbate 20 ( HLB = 16.7)

Polysorbate 20 NF ( HLB = 16.7)

Laureth-23 ( HLB = 16.9)

PEG-100 Stearate ( HLB = 18.8)

PEG-80 Sorbitan te ( HLB = 19.1)

When formulating creams I like to use Glyceryl Stearate ( HLB = 3.6) and

Ceteareth-20 ( HLB = 15.2).

I just checked and I see you are a new subscriber to Cosmeticinfo. Have you had

an opportunity to check out the Cosmeticinfo files area?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cosmeticinfo/files/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cosmeticinfo2/files/

And you'll also pick up a lot of good information by searching the Cosmeticinfo

message achives for key works like

HLB

hydrophilic

o/w

w/o

emulsion

Maurice

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Maurice O. Hevey

Convergent Cosmetics, Inc.

http://www.ConvergentCosmetics.com

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