Re: Wiley's eyes

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If it were my dog, and I am known to push the healing

envelope on my own

dogs depending on the relative risks of the condition vs the

treatment.

I would apply the Ivermectin very very lightly around the

eyes with a cotton swab.

Watch for a die off reaction for the next week, inflammation

etc.

If the problem is not too severe

I would keep the dose really low or not treat at all. It may

resolve on its

own if the immune function is adequate.

I am not sure if shelties have

the genetic MDR1 mutation that makes collie related breeds

sensitive to Ivermetin.

But in most cases where there is sensitivity it is to a

higher than heartworm

preventative dose or accumualtion of several doses. Topical

application should not

result in a high enough blood level to trigger an MDR1

reaction unless

you keep treating for a longer period than it should take to

kill any

mites. That is all my own personal opinion though and every

situation needs

to be evaluated closely when dealing with so many unknowns.

Good Luck,

Garnet

a wrote:

> Thought I'd better change the subject line since my original post has

> morphed into other subjects. Good luck finding the post you want in the

> archives! Human ears? - see: pet eyes <G>.

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> Garnet,

>

> I appreciate the time you've spent to help Wiley. I did not know that

> Ivermectin could be used topically. You feel this would be safe to put

> right next to Wiley's eyes? If I can get it applied around the eye

> without getting it in his eyes, he will scratch and then lick his feet.

> I'm willing to try just about anything but I know that Ivermectin is

> deadly to the collie breeds. Wiley looks sorta like a miniature

> sheltie. Maybe using a very small amount on him wouldn't hurt?

>

> The reason I can't take him to the vet is because of the vax damage.

> One of the MANY side effects is car phobia - followed by seizures. In

> order to take him in the car, I give him melatonin. That is not nearly

> strong enough for him to deal with the chaos at a clinic or being

> handled by strangers. It is pretty much a given that if I take him to

> the vet he will have one or more seizures - not to mention what it does

> to him mentally.

>

> I do know about the ear fungus/swelling problem. Sophie's ears were

> cleaned constantly by Piper. Piper died and Sophie shortly developed

> 'puffy' ears. I'm still REALLY mad about the vet's comment: ' " No

> problem, it's just a harmless fungus. " Since when is fungus harmless?

> She was not treated and I didn't know better than to trust the vet at

> the time. Sophie went completely deaf. Dealing with a deaf dog on a

> farm is hell.

>

> I'm kind of between a rock and a hard place on the diet. I know that if

> Wiley is put back on commercial crap, the seizures will start again,

> along with the bad teeth, bad breath, doggie odor, parasites (internal &

> external), etc. I know what you mean about uninformed raw feeders. I

> did 2 years of research first and then have fed raw (prey model, not

> BARF) for 8 years. The results were/are incredible. BUT, something

> changed last year and I've fruitlessly tried to track down what

> happened. Having a third dog that is unaffected makes it even more

> baffling - same diet, same environment, same everything - except genetics.

>

> Maybe a couple of drops of DMSO internally would do something?? They

> already drink CS free-choice. Several times a week they get MSM, fish

> oil, an herbal detox/enzyme supplement, and medicinal clay (TLC). The

> clay is a new 'try' - internally and externally. It is too soon to know

> if that will help or not.

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