often says that things don't exist except when we perceive them

[Guest guest]

I find that confusing. In one of her dialogues with a woman who was

worrying about money, said that when the woman slept, there was

no ocean, and no stock market. They only existed when she thought

about them. How can this be? The ocean can be measured and recorded by

cameras and instruments, even if no one is thinking about it. It's

true that I might not be thinking about it, and it doesnt exist for

me, but it still exists, doesnt it?