Re: Organic valley raw milk cheese -- was First Time

[Guest guest]

I got ahold of the person I mentioned earlier and she confirmed what

all of you have been saying. Alas, it is heated. She did find out

some other info that someone may be interested in. I've included

's and OV's letters below.

From Kelley:

Unfortunately, OV does still pasteurize, but they make their butter

from whole cream. Someone posted a note about how some companies

will cook the whey to squeeze out more cream and then make butter

from that. Yuck! So I sent a note to OV and asked about that

practice and whether or not they did that and here is their reply.

I also talked to OV about what their cows eat. The gentleman told

me that an overwhelming amount of their farms that supply their milk

are small farms like Stuart's. They let their cows out in the

morning and they graze and then they come home at night. Now most

of these farms are in Wisconsin and, as you know, there are some

times when the cows don't have grass to graze because of snow and

then they are supplemented. OV is as close (and it is not real

close) as you can get to Stuart's product in the grocery world. The

eatwild.com lady claims that CLA is not destroyed in pasteurization

and OV is listed as an alternative on RealMilk.com.

OV does have a raw milk cheddar cheese you can get at Whole Foods

and maybe Kroger's. It tastes good, not at good as Stuart's, but if

you are in a pinch, it will do.

Hope this helps!!

Talk to you later,

Kelley

Dear Kelley

Thank you for contacting us.

We do not use whey cream in our butter, but it is legal for

commercial creamery's to use it. Our cream is strictly separated

from milk and then churned into butter. We follow the age old

process of butter making.

For more detailed information on how we make our butter I have

attached our " Fact Sheet on Butter Making " .

If you have further questions please let me know.

Sincerely,

Kay Fandel

Organic Valley/CROPP ative

Consumer Relations

1- ext 437

kay.fandel@...

" How we eat determines to a considerable extent how the world is

used. " Wendell Berry

[Guest guest]

Janet,

I do not know of anyone who makes cheese. Could someone be trained

in doing this that is one of your share holders? Use your milk and

rennet, if you have and make it in their own home and bring it to

your store? Just a thought??? I know it can be work, but you and

your share holders know exactly what they are getting.

Would'nt the labeling on these cheeses be false labeling? What is

the purpose of labeling? You can put anything on a label to get

people to buy. Geeze we have a lovely government.

> Holly,

> I suppose they could - since our store is set up specifically for

share holders anyway. Hmmm... know anyone that makes good, raw

cheeses???

> Janet

>

>

> Janet, could somebody from your shareholders make it and sell

it in

> your store?

[Guest guest]

My dentist got a milk cow last summer and immediatly learned how to

make cheese. He has turned the cheese making and cow milking over to

the 6 kids. I suppose anyone could learn. They are enjoying it.

Del

> > Holly,

> > I suppose they could - since our store is set up specifically for

> share holders anyway. Hmmm... know anyone that makes good, raw

> cheeses???

> > Janet

> >

> >

> > Janet, could somebody from your shareholders make it and sell

> it in

> > your store?