Re: sodium cocoyl isethionate

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In a message dated 2/19/03 3:20:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, cathy2@...

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> Angie

> I've never tried it in my shampoo or body wash but I was using it

> regularily

> in my bath bombs...I loved the silky feeling of the stuff. I've repalce it

> now with sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as it bubbles better

,

You owe it to yourself to try the sodium cocoyl isethionate in your

shampoo/body wash. I made a creamy conditioning shampoo using it along with

disodium laureth sulfosuccinate and some of my other stuff. It's quite

nice. Funny, I considered ordering the sodium lauryl sulfoacetate, but it

didn't seem to foam all that well?

Angie

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In a message dated 2/19/03 5:32:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, cathy2@...

writes:

> Angie...I surely don't know about the foam differences in shampoos..but I

> can tell you...sodium lauryl sulfoacetate bubbles about 10 times as much as

> sodium cocoyl isethionate. There is an amazing difference. I spoke to a

> chemist at Finetex who sells sodium cocoyl isethionate and he told me it

> was

> more of a lather product and not much for bubbles. I agree with him. The

> bubbles in my new and improved bubble bars/bombs last about 1 hour...while

> the gentle foam of the Jordapon Prill, lasted about 7 minutes. However..the

> feel of the sodium cocoyl isethionate is nicer and silkier. It was a trade

> off for me..I add a good dollop of sulphanated castor oil to my bombs and

> that kind of adds emoliency to the product.

>

Hi ,

I see what you mean. Yes, the sodium cocoyl isethionate DOES have more of a

dense, rich lather and does NOT have the big loose bubbles that are the

typical sulfates used in the bubble bath products. And your description of

the feel being silky is accurate in my opinion too. Since I'm not really a

fan of bubble baths, I think I will stick with the SCI for the body

wash/shampoo.

Angie

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In a message dated 2/19/03 6:01:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, cathy2@...

writes:

> Angie..

>

> How do you use the noodles? (I have the prill and its pretty similar I'd

> think) Do you dissolve it in your water phase?

>

> Thanks

>

>

Hi ,

The other surfactants that I have used in combo with the SCI noodles are

liquid. I typically heat the surfactants together with a small portion of

the water. The noodles must be heated to around 175F or so to melt. Then I

add the remainder of the water and other heat tolerant ingredients.

Angie

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Angie

I've never tried it in my shampoo or body wash but I was using it regularily

in my bath bombs...I loved the silky feeling of the stuff. I've repalce it

now with sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as it bubbles better.

> > I like to use

> > Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate in the prilled form.

>

> Hi and All,

> Have you tried this surfactant in a shampoo/body wash formula? It is

> fantastic! I have the " noodles " that I have been playing with (and need

to

> get up on my site) and think it makes the most luxurious foam and feels so

> conditioning!!

>

> Angie

> The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

> Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

> at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

>

>

>

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Angie...I surely don't know about the foam differences in shampoos..but I

can tell you...sodium lauryl sulfoacetate bubbles about 10 times as much as

sodium cocoyl isethionate. There is an amazing difference. I spoke to a

chemist at Finetex who sells sodium cocoyl isethionate and he told me it was

more of a lather product and not much for bubbles. I agree with him. The

bubbles in my new and improved bubble bars/bombs last about 1 hour...while

the gentle foam of the Jordapon Prill, lasted about 7 minutes. However..the

feel of the sodium cocoyl isethionate is nicer and silkier. It was a trade

off for me..I add a good dollop of sulphanated castor oil to my bombs and

that kind of adds emoliency to the product.

Sutton

> > Angie

> > I've never tried it in my shampoo or body wash but I was using it

> > regularily

> > in my bath bombs...I loved the silky feeling of the stuff. I've repalce

it

> > now with sodium lauryl sulfoacetate as it bubbles better

>

> ,

> You owe it to yourself to try the sodium cocoyl isethionate in your

> shampoo/body wash. I made a creamy conditioning shampoo using it along

with

> disodium laureth sulfosuccinate and some of my other stuff. It's quite

> nice. Funny, I considered ordering the sodium lauryl sulfoacetate, but it

> didn't seem to foam all that well?

> Angie

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Angie..

How do you use the noodles? (I have the prill and its pretty similar I'd

think) Do you dissolve it in your water phase?

Thanks

>

> > Angie...I surely don't know about the foam differences in shampoos..but

I

> > can tell you...sodium lauryl sulfoacetate bubbles about 10 times as much

as

> > sodium cocoyl isethionate. There is an amazing difference. I spoke to a

> > chemist at Finetex who sells sodium cocoyl isethionate and he told me it

> > was

> > more of a lather product and not much for bubbles. I agree with him. The

> > bubbles in my new and improved bubble bars/bombs last about 1

hour...while

> > the gentle foam of the Jordapon Prill, lasted about 7 minutes.

However..the

> > feel of the sodium cocoyl isethionate is nicer and silkier. It was a

trade

> > off for me..I add a good dollop of sulphanated castor oil to my bombs

and

> > that kind of adds emoliency to the product.

> >

>

> Hi ,

> I see what you mean. Yes, the sodium cocoyl isethionate DOES have more of

a

> dense, rich lather and does NOT have the big loose bubbles that are the

> typical sulfates used in the bubble bath products. And your description

of

> the feel being silky is accurate in my opinion too. Since I'm not really

a

> fan of bubble baths, I think I will stick with the SCI for the body

> wash/shampoo.

> Angie

> The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care

> Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality

> at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com

>

>

>

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Thanks very much .

Kind regards

Re: sodium cocoyl isethionate

Hi

I use both products at around 30%. Sodium lauryl sulfoacete is made by

Stepan and is available from The Chemistry Store. (I'm sure there are

other

places as well)

>

> Just thought I would jump in on this discussion since I have been making

> bath bombs with above ingredient and have found the lather/small bubbles

to

> last a very long time half hour and longer and after agitating the water

a

> bit it lathers back up again. , can I ask at what percentage you

use

> the sodium cocoyl isethionate in your product? I just love the feel of

this

> product. Also can you tell me where to find the sodium lauryl

sulfoacetate?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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Angie, thanks for the formula and all your great advice.

Kind regards