Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Have you checked your local library for books on computer? I recall seeing a lot of those offered at our library. I think they include some comprehension work. While this wouldn't be exactly what you're looking for, Bright Minds offers most of their curriculum in low-tech computer programs. Their website allows you to download samples of many of the programs. They have some great programs that address reading comprehension and general thinking skills challenges really well. Look at their Reading Detective series, and entire Detective series for that matter since they all work on understanding and acting upon what you've read. www.brightminds.us Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Wow, I have thought of the same thing for my daughter, and am looking for a similar program. Some school districts have the Kurzweil system that will do this for any book, and their books on tape programs that are available for free, but something like you are talking about where they could read, see the pictures and hear the words would really open up all the brain channels. Yes does anyone have any suggestions for me too! Marcia Any suggestions Dear Families and Providers: I have a 11 yr old son with PDD. He is reading at a 5th-4th grade level. But understand what he reads at a 2nd-1st grade level. He loves the computer. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reading program that would help with comprehension, and can be done on the computer. We are looking for a program where he can read along with the story as he is hearing the story being read to him by the computer. He has already done the Edmark Reading Program which is more geared to sight words. He did great with that program. Thanks, Heidi -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:58:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > simmthig@... writes: > > I have a thought about the eye poking. I worked in a childrens home > when I was younger and we had a boy that was blind and he would do this > all the time. We would try to redirect it but never worked. We were > told that he did this because of a sensory need. He could not see but > when the eye is poked then they see flashes of light or stars. Close > your own eye and gently poke on it and you will see what I am talking > aobut. They can not experience the world as we do and they get > something from doing this and being able to see flashes of light of > sort. You may never be able to stop her from doing this. I hope that > I have made sense here, it makes sense in my brain but when I try to > write it out it does not always come out the same. > > Marcye > > > Yes, this is true also, but they do say it can be redirected; I have tried > everything. She bruises her eyes and that is scarey. I have been > misunderstood and received called from the police over this before, but they are > always > understandable. That does not make it any less scary though. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Storybook weaver (great computer program for teaching narrative and awareness) This program was recommended by Dr. Volkmar at the conference yesterday. I'll post more about it later. It was very mixed--great about diagnosing and basic assessments but HORRIBLE in his propaganda about vaccines, alternative health treatments and his total lack of understanding about ABA. Any suggestions Dear Families and Providers: I have a 11 yr old son with PDD. He is reading at a 5th-4th grade level. But understand what he reads at a 2nd-1st grade level. He loves the computer. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reading program that would help with comprehension, and can be done on the computer. We are looking for a program where he can read along with the story as he is hearing the story being read to him by the computer. He has already done the Edmark Reading Program which is more geared to sight words. He did great with that program. Thanks, Heidi -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:58:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > simmthig@... writes: > > I have a thought about the eye poking. I worked in a childrens home > when I was younger and we had a boy that was blind and he would do this > all the time. We would try to redirect it but never worked. We were > told that he did this because of a sensory need. He could not see but > when the eye is poked then they see flashes of light or stars. Close > your own eye and gently poke on it and you will see what I am talking > aobut. They can not experience the world as we do and they get > something from doing this and being able to see flashes of light of > sort. You may never be able to stop her from doing this. I hope that > I have made sense here, it makes sense in my brain but when I try to > write it out it does not always come out the same. > > Marcye > > > Yes, this is true also, but they do say it can be redirected; I have tried > everything. She bruises her eyes and that is scarey. I have been > misunderstood and received called from the police over this before, but they are > always > understandable. That does not make it any less scary though. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 I'm going to see Volkmar speak, and I want to be prepared. He's against the vaccine theory?DAN, etc? > > Storybook weaver (great computer program for teaching narrative and > awareness) > > This program was recommended by Dr. Volkmar at the conference > yesterday. > I'll post more about it later. It was very mixed--great about > diagnosing > and basic assessments but HORRIBLE in his propaganda about vaccines, > alternative health treatments and his total lack of understanding > about ABA. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 The Edmark reading program has computer software. One component is comprehension. For example, the student will match cards with phrases on them to pictures that the cards describe. This also helps out with abstract things like prepositions. It also does the opposite. The student is given a phrase and has to choose the correct pictures to go with it. They start out simple, but grow to quantities, prepositions, adjectives, verbs, etc. I have the paper version, but I know they have one for the computer. I think a new version was released recently. Re: Any suggestions Wow, I have thought of the same thing for my daughter, and am looking for a similar program. Some school districts have the Kurzweil system that will do this for any book, and their books on tape programs that are available for free, but something like you are talking about where they could read, see the pictures and hear the words would really open up all the brain channels. Yes does anyone have any suggestions for me too! Marcia Any suggestions Dear Families and Providers: I have a 11 yr old son with PDD. He is reading at a 5th-4th grade level. But understand what he reads at a 2nd-1st grade level. He loves the computer. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reading program that would help with comprehension, and can be done on the computer. We are looking for a program where he can read along with the story as he is hearing the story being read to him by the computer. He has already done the Edmark Reading Program which is more geared to sight words. He did great with that program. Thanks, Heidi -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:58:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > simmthig@... writes: > > I have a thought about the eye poking. I worked in a childrens home > when I was younger and we had a boy that was blind and he would do this > all the time. We would try to redirect it but never worked. We were > told that he did this because of a sensory need. He could not see but > when the eye is poked then they see flashes of light or stars. Close > your own eye and gently poke on it and you will see what I am talking > aobut. They can not experience the world as we do and they get > something from doing this and being able to see flashes of light of > sort. You may never be able to stop her from doing this. I hope that > I have made sense here, it makes sense in my brain but when I try to > write it out it does not always come out the same. > > Marcye > > > Yes, this is true also, but they do say it can be redirected; I have tried > everything. She bruises her eyes and that is scarey. I have been > misunderstood and received called from the police over this before, but they are > always > understandable. That does not make it any less scary though. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 He's totally establishment. He said, " There is no evidence between mercury and autism, the CDC has already established it. It's a myth, you heard it from me. Mercury's is no longer in any vaccine except the flu. . . " Then he went on to paint Wakefield as a charleton who just " happened to be doing colonoscopies on 11 kids with autism who came in with their lawyers. Yeah, right. " He also told the room that Wakefield's " study " [sic] was retracted from the Lancet. Needless to say he didn't mention Verstaeton's (the lead author on the CDC study) getting hired by a vaccine manufacturer the DAY the study was published. Oh no. No conflict of interest there. Yeah right. His take on " alternative " therapies was " well if they worked, then there wouldn't be a roomful of people here trying to learn about autism. " Try them if you want as long as it doesn't take away from anything that's proven. His comments on ABA were equally uninformed. " ABA is great for low functioning kids. You get them in a chair all day, and you've got your programs all laid out. " " ABA is the Lovaas model. " WHAT? EXCUSE ME? That's like saying, oh those psychiatrists, they just make you lay down on a couch and say everything is linked to your sexual desires for your mother. And all women's problems can be linked to them wanting a penis. I mean please GIVE ME A BREAK. The problem is that he was making the ABA comments to a roomful of mixed practioners, most with very little knowledge about autism-- from some of the questions that were asked. Now I know why the schools are getting their misconceptions of ABA. Oh, he also said the rise in the rate of autism was a MYTH. That all the rise in the CA diagnoses is because the formerly MR kids are being treated as autism. He feels the true rate of autism (not ASD, just autism) is about 1 in 1,000. (Jeff--are you reading this--what's ASA going to do about this guy?) I guess he totally disagrees with the autism alert sent out by the CDC. He only took written questions and completely avoided my question as to why did the Mind Institute study find a rise in autism, about the recent Texas study which found a link between rates of autism and presence of mercury in the community. It took a lot of self control to stay quiet during that. Those were the worst parts. He did have some useful things to say about assessments and decent school recommendations about autism and Asperger's. I will post my notes on him and Dr. Gerenser's presentation sometime next week. Dr. Gerenser's was so much better though. I'm almost sorry I wasted my money to listen to him. For those who weren't able to attend Dr. Gerenser's seminar and might be interested in hearing it, Carol Sloan cysloan@... keeps a tape lending library for FEAT-Houston. She has 3 tapes of similar presentations that Dr. Gerenser made--one of which deals with echolalia. (note for Tammy and a) Re: Any suggestions I'm going to see Volkmar speak, and I want to be prepared. He's against the vaccine theory?DAN, etc? > > Storybook weaver (great computer program for teaching narrative and > awareness) > > This program was recommended by Dr. Volkmar at the conference > yesterday. > I'll post more about it later. It was very mixed--great about > diagnosing > and basic assessments but HORRIBLE in his propaganda about vaccines, > alternative health treatments and his total lack of understanding > about ABA. > > Texas Autism Advocacy www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org Partners Resource Network www.PartnersTX.org Autism-Awareness-Action Worldwide internet group for AUTISM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 The more advanced Edmark Level 2 software on cd deals a lot with comprehension by reading a story and answering multiple choice on computer. I bought both the level 1 and the level 2 last year off Ebay. Cheap! Trina Re: Any suggestions Wow, I have thought of the same thing for my daughter, and am looking for a similar program. Some school districts have the Kurzweil system that will do this for any book, and their books on tape programs that are available for free, but something like you are talking about where they could read, see the pictures and hear the words would really open up all the brain channels. Yes does anyone have any suggestions for me too! Marcia Any suggestions Dear Families and Providers: I have a 11 yr old son with PDD. He is reading at a 5th-4th grade level. But understand what he reads at a 2nd-1st grade level. He loves the computer. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reading program that would help with comprehension, and can be done on the computer. We are looking for a program where he can read along with the story as he is hearing the story being read to him by the computer. He has already done the Edmark Reading Program which is more geared to sight words. He did great with that program. Thanks, Heidi -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:58:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > simmthig@... writes: > > I have a thought about the eye poking. I worked in a childrens home > when I was younger and we had a boy that was blind and he would do this > all the time. We would try to redirect it but never worked. We were > told that he did this because of a sensory need. He could not see but > when the eye is poked then they see flashes of light or stars. Close > your own eye and gently poke on it and you will see what I am talking > aobut. They can not experience the world as we do and they get > something from doing this and being able to see flashes of light of > sort. You may never be able to stop her from doing this. I hope that > I have made sense here, it makes sense in my brain but when I try to > write it out it does not always come out the same. > > Marcye > > > Yes, this is true also, but they do say it can be redirected; I have tried > everything. She bruises her eyes and that is scarey. I have been > misunderstood and received called from the police over this before, but they are > always > understandable. That does not make it any less scary though. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 In a message dated 4/1/2005 3:34:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, monghate@... writes: What is the paper version. Do you think this would be appropriate for a 15 year old who is struggling with reading comprehension but has good visual ability, " and understands more than she can express. " Do you also have any ideas about IQ tests that are good at measuring the cognitive strengths for Autistic kids as opposed to their language and processing speed and visual spatial deficiencies. Kids with deficits in these areas look borderline or MR on the standard WISC IV because it places such heavy emphasis on processing speed and language. The Leiter is a joke if the child has visual spatial problems, because this is what the test primarily uses to test intelligence. THanks Marcia Hummm, well, you might want to consider the Battelle Developmental Inventory assessment. All 5 parts or just the personal-social and cognitive items. But I probably don't know what I'm talking about so I hope one of the other more experienced parent(s) chime-in because just before my son's 5th birthday last year he was given the Leiter International Developmental Test of Visual-Motor Integration because the psychologist who assessed him figured out real fast that my son's strongest strength is visual. He scored very high on it. When a school diagnostician read the report she said she was surprised the psychologist used such a dated test and she wondered why he didn't use the Battelle. I hope , , nne or even can answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 What is the paper version. Do you think this would be appropriate for a 15 year old who is struggling with reading comprehension but has good viusal ability, " and understands more than she can express. " Do you also have any ideas about IQ tests that are good at measuring the cognitive strenghts fo Autisitic kids as opposed to their language and processing speed and visual spatial deficincies. Kids with deficits in these areas look borderline or MR on the standard WISC IV because it places such heavy emphaisi on procesing speed and alnguage. THe Leiter is a joke if the child has visual spatial problems, b ecause this is what the test primarily uses to test intelligence. THanks Marcia Any suggestions Dear Families and Providers: I have a 11 yr old son with PDD. He is reading at a 5th-4th grade level. But understand what he reads at a 2nd-1st grade level. He loves the computer. Does anyone have any suggestions for a reading program that would help with comprehension, and can be done on the computer. We are looking for a program where he can read along with the story as he is hearing the story being read to him by the computer. He has already done the Edmark Reading Program which is more geared to sight words. He did great with that program. Thanks, Heidi -------------- Original message -------------- > > > In a message dated 3/30/2005 6:58:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, > simmthig@... writes: > > I have a thought about the eye poking. I worked in a childrens home > when I was younger and we had a boy that was blind and he would do this > all the time. We would try to redirect it but never worked. We were > told that he did this because of a sensory need. He could not see but > when the eye is poked then they see flashes of light or stars. Close > your own eye and gently poke on it and you will see what I am talking > aobut. They can not experience the world as we do and they get > something from doing this and being able to see flashes of light of > sort. You may never be able to stop her from doing this. I hope that > I have made sense here, it makes sense in my brain but when I try to > write it out it does not always come out the same. > > Marcye > > > Yes, this is true also, but they do say it can be redirected; I have tried > everything. She bruises her eyes and that is scarey. I have been > misunderstood and received called from the police over this before, but they are > always > understandable. That does not make it any less scary though. > > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Thanks for the information. I will do some research on the Battelle. It sounds like they used the VMI on your son (test of Visual Motor integration which scores visual and motor separately and integrated. My daughter scores high on visual and motor, but very low when they are integrated. The Leiter R is a measure of IQ and it is supposedly completely nonverbal because it asks the children to copy pictures and solve problems with blocks. It is also.used with deaf children without language. It places heavy emphasis on visual spatial strength which my daughter is very weak in so she scored very low on this measure of IQ. Re: Any suggestions In a message dated 4/1/2005 3:34:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, monghate@... writes: What is the paper version. Do you think this would be appropriate for a 15 year old who is struggling with reading comprehension but has good visual ability, " and understands more than she can express. " Do you also have any ideas about IQ tests that are good at measuring the cognitive strengths for Autistic kids as opposed to their language and processing speed and visual spatial deficiencies. Kids with deficits in these areas look borderline or MR on the standard WISC IV because it places such heavy emphasis on processing speed and language. The Leiter is a joke if the child has visual spatial problems, because this is what the test primarily uses to test intelligence. THanks Marcia Hummm, well, you might want to consider the Battelle Developmental Inventory assessment. All 5 parts or just the personal-social and cognitive items. But I probably don't know what I'm talking about so I hope one of the other more experienced parent(s) chime-in because just before my son's 5th birthday last year he was given the Leiter International Developmental Test of Visual-Motor Integration because the psychologist who assessed him figured out real fast that my son's strongest strength is visual. He scored very high on it. When a school diagnostician read the report she said she was surprised the psychologist used such a dated test and she wondered why he didn't use the Battelle. I hope , , nne or even can answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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