Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 > > How can I know I am that which loves unconditionally, > > until I encounter an aspect of every condition? > This is a cool question. I think the Work is an invitation to love unconditionally whatever we encounter when we encounter it. In other words, unconditional love is a process rather than an end state to be achieved. If you examine each aspect of reality that you don't love unconditionally and do the work on it until you do love it, then you are loving unconditionally as life progresses. One aspect at a time. ~Dwight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Tami is in the house It is simple, when you love someone and... You want nothing in return, that is unconditional love T Professional unconditional lover -- How can I know? How can I know I am that which loves unconditionally, until I encounter an aspect of every condition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Dear , I have been in your situation. I have found pictures or letters from my boyfriends life before me, and felt the same pain you are describing. What I would do if I was you is to do the Work on following thoughts: My fiancé shouldn´t have taken these naked pictures. My fiancé shouldn´t had wild sex before I came into his life. My fiance shouldn´t have laught and said it was fun. Love, > > Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't here yet and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and his " best friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an ecstacy world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is irrational, and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.....however----i made this about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, I said, I am going to hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so hard to not personalize this, he said where are you? You are in a weird place? I said---ok, I am going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he laughed and said---yeah, that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not make my feelings his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings were affecting my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said that was fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! > > > M. > Hualalai Academy, First grade > www.hualalai.org > > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hi , I'm wondering, are you okay with being naked and raunchy? Are these pics possibly making surface your fears around being open to your body, sexuality, physical playfulness? I think kids, when young, love to be naked and unencumbered, joyfully free as the day they were born. Do you allow yourself to live in an 'ectasy world'? BE with the uncomforableness. Say 'yes' to the feeling, for something lies beneath it that is a gift. WHEN YOU'RE FALLING, DIVE. | | | okay, I just stripped down, and am naked as I am typing this. please only respond to my post if you're naked. Hey, how bout we all designate Wednesdays as 'get nekkid in loving-what-is@...' XXXstatically yours, " M. " wrote: > > Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't here yet and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and his " best friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an ecstacy world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is irrational, and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.....however----i made this about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, I said, I am going to hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so hard to not personalize this, he said where are you? You are in a weird place? I said---ok, I am going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he laughed and said---yeah, that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not make my feelings his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings were affecting my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said that was fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Tamar, T bird- I usually drive over guys who tell me to dress up. First/last/ONLY warning. Zoom zoom- > Dear > > I am the only naked member in this group > please dress up! > > First warnings! > > T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I just read what I wrote to and I started to laugh... As if reality waits for my approval But I am sweet anyway T > > > Your wife has a lover now? > I see that you are such a loving human being. > If you want to go back to your sweet wife, I want that for you too. > > Love, T > > > > > -- Re: Re: How can I know? > > Dear , > > I was never good in arguing feelings away. Explaining for myself why I had > these feelings didn't help very much, either. > > > The thoughts I apply your story to are: > > He should (only) have fun with ME! (for me it was painful to see her > having fun with her lover.) > > He should (only) love ME! (Another thought that came along with her affair > was: she doesn't love me.) > > Do you know her? What do you think of her? Make a list. > ( I made a list of her, her lover, and those friends of hers who approved > of her having an affair. And about people interfering into committed > relationships, or families with kids.) > > I also had the thought that he was abusing her (he told her, that he did > not want a relationship with her) - but that doesn't seem to apply to your > situation. > > And I did a work about " she should not do that " - as in: it were much > better for our paths, if she did not leave me. I have this picture of two > old people who look at the sunset together that brings me a lot of comfort - > when I am in the dream. > > If you want to do the work via chat or phone, you can contact me privately > and we will make something out. > > Blessings, > > > > " M. " schrieb: > Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't here > yet and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and his > best friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an > ecstacy world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is > irrational, and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.... > however----i made this about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, > I said, I am going to hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so > hard to not personalize this, he said where are you? You are in a weird > place? I said---ok, I am going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he > laughed and said---yeah, that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not > make my feelings his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings > were affecting my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said > that was fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! > > > M. > Hualalai Academy, First grade > www.hualalai.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Telefonieren Sie ohne weitere Kosten mit Ihren Freunden von PC zu PC! > Jetzt Yahoo! Messenger installieren! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hi heather.. another one .. HE laughed and it means that.... Maybe he enjoys thinking your jealous or was it more of a nervous laughter???? I dont know... love, rh > > Hi dear , > > I invite you to write, " He took these pictures and it means that..... " and > then make a list. This is so that you can find your thoughts instead of > trying to keep them away by telling yourself that they are irrational. Once > you have invited " your children " in, you can sit with them and have a > conversation, " Is it true? " , etc. > > love, > > I hope this helps. > > Ric > > > > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > >To: Loving-what-is > >Subject: Re: Re: How can I know? > >Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 23:50:19 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > >Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't here yet > >and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and his " best > >friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an ecstacy > >world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is irrational, > >and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.....however----i made this > >about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, I said, I am going to > >hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so hard to not personalize > >this, he said where are you? You are in a weird place? I said---ok, I am > >going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he laughed and said---yeah, > >that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not make my feelings > >his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings were affecting > >my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said that was > >fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > M. > > > >Hualalai Academy, First grade > > > >www.hualalai.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 , you wrote: **we can never 'know' what is going on in another person's head/heart...even when they tell us directly Dear , Good one. I'm pretty sure I 'know' what is going on in another person's head/heart ESPECIALLY when they tell me directly. I wonder if you don't trust people to be honest with you? Love, nne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hey , I find that I am more apt to ask people WHY they do what they do (laugh) because I'm open to hearing what's up for them. I find peace and intimacy with my loved one when I do that. Have i ever told someone that I was angry when I was really scared? No, I haven't, cause don't experience a difference between anger and fear. It's the same for me. Love, nne > nne, > > I dont find it necessary to 'trust' people, other than I trust them to do what they do. I find that I spend very little time trying to figure out 'why' anyone else does what they do (laugh, lie, tell the truth, sneer, etc) and instead watch the stories that I have about it...which I sometimes question if they are painful enough. I try to listen to people literally...and respond to that. Whether they are telling me the truth or not isnt my business (have you ever told someone that you were angry when you were really scared? I have, and this is all I mean by the statement that we can never really know what is going on, inside another person, even when the tell us. Ultimately, it is love.). > > 'Trusting' someone to tell me the truth, for me, means that I expect them to live up to my expectations. I expect them to tell me what they tell me. Truth or not, doesnt seem to matter much! > > Cheers, > CAtherine > > Cheers, > > > nne wrote: > , you wrote: > > **we can never 'know' what is going on in another person's > head/heart...even when they tell us directly > > Dear , > > Good one. > > I'm pretty sure I 'know' what is going on in another person's > head/heart ESPECIALLY when they tell me directly. > > I wonder if you don't trust people to be honest with you? > > Love, nne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 catherine .. Good point I have no idea what s finacee meant by his laughter and that would be his business.. my business would be how i interpret the laughter ... And to question wether that is true. ? My mother in law yells at my father in law and i laugh and she looks at me and says oh you think thats funny and i know its rude.. but its nervous laughter.. I've kind of quit that now. She can be funny . Theyve been married 65 years and i think shes yelled at him most of those 65 years .I told her im glad the rest of us are safe she never yells at anyone else. They are happily married anyway rh > > > > Hi dear , > > > > I invite you to write, " He took these pictures and it means > that..... " and > > then make a list. This is so that you can find your thoughts > instead of > > trying to keep them away by telling yourself that they are > irrational. Once > > you have invited " your children " in, you can sit with them and have a > > conversation, " Is it true? " , etc. > > > > love, > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Ric > > > > > > >From: " M. " > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > > >To: Loving-what-is > > >Subject: Re: Re: How can I know? > > >Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 23:50:19 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't > here yet > > >and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and > his " best > > >friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an > ecstacy > > >world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is > irrational, > > >and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.....however----i > made this > > >about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, I said, I am > going to > > >hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so hard to not > personalize > > >this, he said where are you? You are in a weird place? I said---ok, > I am > > >going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he laughed and > said---yeah, > > >that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not make my feelings > > >his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings were > affecting > > >my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said that was > > >fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M. > > > > > >Hualalai Academy, First grade > > > > > >www.hualalai.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 > > > > > > Hi dear , > > > > > > I invite you to write, " He took these pictures and it means > > that..... " and > > > then make a list. This is so that you can find your thoughts > > instead of > > > trying to keep them away by telling yourself that they are > > irrational. Once > > > you have invited " your children " in, you can sit with them and have a > > > conversation, " Is it true? " , etc. > > > > > > love, > > > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > > > Ric > > > > > > > > > >From: " M. " > > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > > > >To: Loving-what-is > > > >Subject: Re: Re: How can I know? > > > >Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 23:50:19 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Replying to the masses.......I came home tonight and my man wasn't > > here yet > > > >and I saw pics of he and his ex-fiance ( i am current fiance) and > > his " best > > > >friend " Jillian is naked, raunchy positions...the 3 of them in an > > ecstacy > > > >world.....This put me in an uncomfortable spot. I know this is > > irrational, > > > >and this is his past and not a part pf me and us.....however-- --i > > made this > > > >about me. PLEASE GET ME OUT OF THIS PLACE.........So, I said, I am > > going to > > > >hang out with the girls tonight and I way tryig so hard to not > > personalize > > > >this, he said where are you? You are in a weird place? I said- --ok, > > I am > > > >going to tell you what I saw...I told him and he laughed and > > said---yeah, > > > >that was fun!---oh my heart, I was trying to not make my feelings > > > >his....and just be honest about why my irrational feelings were > > affecting > > > >my behavior, and this is what he said...he laughed and said that was > > > >fun......Help me to do the work on this....help ME!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M. > > > > > > > >Hualalai Academy, First grade > > > > > > > >www.hualalai.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > > > >Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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