Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 I've found that full-fat goatsmilk powder not only makes whatever I mix it with feel wonderful, but it helps soften (if that makes sense). Prior to using that, I'd used the non-fat dairy type I have in the pantry ... nice but, between the two, definitely the full fat goatsmilk. As for the varied milks, many in the home toiletries area have expressed that goats milk is more akin with our skin than other varieties. I don't know this to be a fact, but I surely love it on my skin. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 In a message dated 1/30/03 1:21:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, oakridge@... writes: > Oh Jen, that was wonderful! Lol Just what I needed this afternoon! > > Whatever the reason, true milk baths, and using true milk on your face are > very soothing and a real treat My favorite end of a weary day...a hot > tub with a couple cups of milk - or half & half when I'm feeling flush, > along with a half cup of honey is pure heaven. > I took your suggestion, Jan, and tried the honey.....very nice! I used it with my usual mix of tapioca starch, C 12-15 alkyl benzoate...also known as NatraBath and EmEster...my essential oils. I just added the honey separately to the bath. Sooo, relaxing!! It would be nice in a milk bath too, perfect really...I'll try that next....maybe tonight I'm wondering if honey would work in a liquid " milk " bath? It would of course have to be preserved. I'm thinking hydrolyzed oats or oats powder, honey, EmEster, in liquid form.....sounds so rich! Actually, so rich that I'm thinking the buggies would love it too...so I wonder. Maybe it's better to stick with the dry blend. Angie The Herbarie - Botanicals and Body Care Natural Source & Specialty Bulk Ingredients...Exceptional Quality at Wholesale Prices...visit us at http://www.theherbarie.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Jan, The amount of titratable acidity (percent lactic acid) allowed in Whole Milk Powders is governed by standards set by the US Dept. of Agriculture. It varies depending on the product (non-fat milk, buttermilk, whole milk, etc.). In the case of Whole Milk Powder, it cannot exceed 0.15%, which is pretty insignificant. Lactic acid in milk is primarily a product of microbial fermentation generally brought about by the introduction of lactic acid producing bacteria. When lactic acid bacteria is introduced into milk, the bacteria feed on the lactose, or milk sugar, and break it down. In the process lactic acid, a waste product excreted from the cell wall, is produced. Many bacteria (good and bad) will produce lactic acid. By the time Cleopatra actually sat in that bath of asses' milk, it might well have been teeming with bacteria busy producing lactic acid, leading her to be one of the earliest of women to take advantage of AHA's. <g> Jen (resident goat herd and small time cheese producer) Jan wrote: > Yoki, my understanding is the natural lactic acid - which is why milk was > used originally - is found in the fat. Which would explain why non-fat milk > powders won't give the same benefits. There may be other explanations. > > Jan Flood oakridge@... > www.oakridgefarm.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Sorry, Yoki, that's not as easy an answer as the last one for me. I couldn't find anything in MedLine regarding the benefits of milk on skin, but I'll be the first one to admit that my searching techniques there need a lot of improvement. In the average milk bath package for one bath, whether made from whole milk, or non-fat milk powders, my guess is it probably doesn't have enough milk product in it to make much difference one way or the other when added to a full tub of water. It probably has a perceived benefit, though. In which case, I'd think the whole milk powder would be perceived to be more beneficial or soothing than a non-fat milk product. However, whole milk powders, which can be up to 28% fat solids w/w are more subject to oxidation than are non-fat milk powders. That, in a hot climate might be your greater concern. HTH a bit, Jen > Can anyone help me here? I want to know just what benefits the milk fat has in milk baths. I want to think that they impart something, that is why it is touted as being so beneficial. Would it make a difference if one used non fat milk powder? > > Yoki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Oh Jen, that was wonderful! Lol Just what I needed this afternoon! Whatever the reason, true milk baths, and using true milk on your face are very soothing and a real treat My favorite end of a weary day...a hot tub with a couple cups of milk - or half & half when I'm feeling flush, along with a half cup of honey is pure heaven. Jan Flood oakridge@... www.oakridgefarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 So you are saying Jen that the fat content in the milk has nothing to do with lactic acid which is what makes a milk bath good? So if I am understanding you correctly, non fat or whole milk, it should nto make a difference? Yoki > Jan, > > The amount of titratable acidity (percent lactic acid) allowed in Whole Milk > Powders is governed by standards set by the US Dept. of Agriculture. It > varies depending on the product (non-fat milk, buttermilk, whole milk, > etc.). In the case of Whole Milk Powder, it cannot exceed 0.15%, which is > pretty insignificant. Lactic acid in milk is primarily a product of > microbial fermentation generally brought about by the introduction of lactic > acid producing bacteria. When lactic acid bacteria is introduced into milk, > the bacteria feed on the lactose, or milk sugar, and break it down. In the > process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 I think that has to do with the proteins. I cannot remember what it is exactly, btu the proteins found in goatsmilk are smaller than teh ones in cow's milk thereby making them more akin to us. Am I correct? If not I hope the chemists will correct me. ) Yoki > As for the varied milks, many in the home toiletries area have expressed that > goats milk is more akin with our skin than other varieties. I don't know > this to be a fact, but I surely love it on my skin. > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 >>I'm wondering if honey would work in a liquid " milk " bath? Haven't tried that but have used it in a body wash with the cocobetaine blend. Jan Flood oakridge@... www.oakridgefarm.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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